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Cartoon Logic Episode 27: The Van Beuren Studio History with Charlie Judkins (Patreon)

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2020-10-19 04:01:00
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2021-01

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Here to guide us through our history of the cartoons made in the 1920s and 1930s by the Van Beuren Studio is our special guest historian and musician Charlie Judkins, the leading authority on early New York animators. Learn how cartoonists like Paul Terry, John Foster, and Jim Tyer shaped these cartoons that never came close to matching the Fleischers (despite being right across the street!), how their raunch resulted in a hypocritical injunction from Walt Disney, and how their endearing weird rawness occasionally turned out a pre-code gem like our highlighted Halloween-appropriate cartoon, The Magic Mummy (1933), starring the pre-MGM Tom and Jerry. Guaranteed you'll have a spooky and educational time!

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Anonymous

Glenn Robison told me the pronunciation of Gene Rodemich is actually "ROAD-a-mick". On his podcast Rapidly Rotating Records, he had Rodemich's great grandson Rick as a guest in 2012. (Sadly, the episode isn't able to play - but I can always ask Glenn if he still has the file.)

Anonymous

School has been brutal this semester so hearing a two hour podcast about crystal meth-infused 30s cartoons made my day... I think these cartoons are largely terrible but Van Beuren has its own special incompetent charm... Did RKO ever try to get Harman-Ising to take over the studio or did they do those Cubby Bear cartoons as freelance work?

cartoonlogic
>>46160003

Yeah I’m with you. I’m generally of the opinion that the animators that stayed with or went to Paul Terry wanted to actually get better at their jobs (i.e. Connie Rasinski, Bill Tytla, Art Babbitt), but the ones who went to Van Beuren had a sense of humor.

Anonymous

Dudes. I waited an ENTIRE MONTH for this and not one mention of Mr. Bang. So what the hell??? Okay, time to wash my hands now.

Anonymous

Though Hicks Lokey animated on "Pink Elephants" - the early scenes up to the shot of the pink elephants "walking around the bed" - Howard "Bud" Swift did the remainder, beginning with the head of a ghost elephant popping up in the scene.

Anonymous

The first Van Beuren I ever saw was Rough on Rats/Three Little Kittens. I was half watching it at first, as it looked like a seen-one-seen-them-all early 30s musical, but then... WOW!

Anonymous

I'm doing a project on surrealism "under the radar" so to speak in American film, and I have to ask, how aware were the Fleischers and VBs of the concurrent surrealism movement? Did they consider themselves a part of it somewhat, was it a coincidence, or something inbetween the two? Thinking of pairing cartoons from both studios with a Hal Roach Langdon and Charley Bowers.

cartoonlogic
>>47198538

I don't think these cartoons are too self-consciously surreal because it sure didn't come up in any interviews with these people. The only creative fuel was alcohol, truly.

Anonymous

Showed my ancient Official Films 16mm print of "Rough on Rats/Three Little Kittens" in one of our Psychotronic Film Festivals. It got an enthusiastic crowd response, but, bear in mind, the audiences at these programs expect weird cartoons.