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The Wire 1x13 Reaction (Patreon)

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2023-06-08 23:59:30
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Anonymous

Lola, paraphrasing into Baltimore lingo: "Deserve got nuttin ta dyuuu wit it." You're a smart one Lola. You always was. :)

Jack SV

Watching this before it gets block.

ODIS

Lola's views on Prez are interesting. In my opinion, incompetence specifically comes from lack of self-awareness. Prez is aware of his shortcomings, which means he can now address them. He's clearly not stupid. It was also shown that he feels guilty about striking that kid. I would trust Prez (at this point in his self-development) in a raid way more than I'd trust Herc or Carver for example.

space1999
>>110332786

I’m excited for them to see more from prez, was interested how split the two of them were on him

TeaDrinker3000
>>110332786

Herc is someone I would trust more than Prez if there was a fire. Prez is someone I could trust to watch my wallet when I go to the bathroom, whereas Herc would be the first person I'd think of as to who would steal it.

David

Season 2 will probably feel like a bit of a shock to the system to you, because the main storyline focuses on a different theme (the dockyards of Baltimore) but rest assured - it is linked to the overall broader storyline across the 5 seasons. There are characters and stories that come up in season 2 that will reoccur and link to the remaining seasons. The Wire shares that similarity with other great shows (like Breaking Bad & BCS) in that there are constantly “call-backs” in later seasons to characters or stories from earlier seasons. Truly a masterpiece of storytelling.

Anonymous

Season 2 is a masterpiece, maybe the best if not for Season 4

TeaDrinker3000

On a serious note however, I'm not sure how much I'd agree with the idea that incompetence stems from a lack of self-awareness. With someone like Prez, I think he just genuinely isn't wired the same way as others. He focuses on minutae and abstractions, very much a dude who's either playing with the ants or the clouds instead of what's in front of him. I don't think I would trust Prez in a raid more than any other character, but he's also not a character I value for that particular trait in any regard.

Anonymous

I truly commend you wonderful ladies for the remarkable insight on the inherent flaws of America's criminal justice system, its deleterious impact on the black citizenry & how inner city residents navigate their socioeconomic reality. Your breakdown merits a round of applause. Y'all get it, I'm sure David Simon would agree. And its doubly impressive since you ladies aren't American. When it comes to analysis & thought-provoking commentary, I don't think there's any reactor channel better. Looking forward to experiencing the rest of this series w/ you gals!

ODIS
>>110333369

Really not sure why you felt the need to leave this comment. Did you know this information when you started season 2, David?

ODIS
>>110333732

Well, that's exactly my point. Being self-aware will allow one to know where one's strengths lie and pursue those avenues. It means that likely Prez will not want to participate in any raids if he feels he's not cut out for it, as we have seen hinted in this episode where he refused to take back his gun. But Lola's implying that he's mindless and if someone hands him a gun he's just gonna shoot someone again. Which to me, doesn't make sense based on how Prez has been portrayed.

space1999
>>110332786

Perfect way to sun it up xD What does your mom think of the show so far?

Mike Conlin

Just when you think this season can't break your heart anymore, in comes Bubbs with the KO.

Jay Craig

The true victims in this episode were Wee-bey's fish

space1999
>>110334357

I was really excited when I saw that The Wire won the poll. Knew they’d be sensitive to the characters and their real world struggles. They almost always grasp themes and character arcs Was really frustrating watching the show with The Normies. They had some really thoughtful and vulnerable discussions about moments in the show and the general topics the show touched on but sometimes they were quick to attack things they didn’t understand about the writing. Multiple members said things like “season 2 was pointless and awful” some got angry at characters for “snitching” and even several of them were totally insensitive to the kids suffering and cheered when one little boy got beat up

jveezy

If I remember correctly from "All the Pieces Matter", seasons 1 through 3 were written with the assumption that they wouldn't be renewed for another season. David Simon had to fight each time to get one more season and submit scripts to pitch ideas to HBO executives before they'd renew it. Season 4 was also a 1 season renewal, but came with the expectation that they'd get another season if they executed season 4 well (and then they delivered one of the greatest tv seasons ever).

T0ast

delete this

Mo

I do see the point the fed was trying to make: That Avon and Stringer are symptoms of a larger problem, but at the same time, they are the ones directly responsible for the violence and terror on the people of West Baltimore. But the game remains the same, whether it's Avon, Stringer or someone else. Incredible season, near perfect. Time to get on boat for the next one.

space1999
>>110337538

It worked out so well! David Simon did speak about his plans for a potential season 6 tying the storyline into the large Hispanic immigration to Baltimore which I would have loved but I’m glad we got what we got. If there’s a season of tv that should be shown to Highschool age kids it’s definitely gotta be season 4

Anonymous

The Wire is my all-time favorite show but since it is so old I never expected you two to react to it, so when I saw you were reacting to it I had to sign up for the Patreon! The Wire can be a hard show to follow with the variety of characters, different lingo, and "show don't tell" style, and I am in awe of how well you two picked up on almost every subtle detail despite not even being from the US. My favorite reaction moments for this season were the contrast between Lola being introduced to Omar in episode three (he quickly shoots a guy in the leg) "well Omar, if you shoot a kid, rough start" then by episode eight Omar was shooting Stinkum and getting heart eyes and best character praise for the duration. I also liked when Bubs stood up at the NA meeting and Lola turned into Morpheus saying "He really is gonna be The One!" During the review you questioned if The Wire made for good reaction content, but I definitely think it does if the viewer gets into the show. You both were clearly very invested in the themes, story and characters, and that emotional connection shines through more than another show which might have more outright action or crazy plot twists. I am enjoying the long reactions, and I expect that they will only get longer as the show progresses! I am glad you two enjoyed the first season so much, this show is amazing!

jveezy
>>110338602

Honestly, I totally agree with the fed. Maybe McNulty had a point if he was accusing them of hunting for splashy headlines, but otherwise, I'd take a corrupt politician over a high-level drug kingpin any day if I wanted to create meaningful change. It's hard to stomach when you know all the personal stories of everyone involved, but imagine how much they could've rooted out if they had let Lester and the team keep digging.

Anonymous
>>110338602

If Avon and Stringer go down, somebody else steps in and fills their shoes. If Clay Davis goes down- well somebody else will fill his shoes also. I love how well this show illustrates this concept, and how everybody's roles are shaped by the system (or the game) that they are a part of.

Mo
>>110338602

Yeah, and even then, we've been fighting the same problems for 20 years on from when the show aired. Without massive overhaul or trying new things other that more street arrests and more policing, no progress will made. The police and politicians are also in a "game" of their own.

Anonymous
>>110336451

I feel like Wee-bey would've gotten the word out to rehome them once he heard that Dee got arrested. He may be a murderer but he's not just gonna let his fish starve to death.

Karabo

Honestly that whole montage was so dope and then the music cuts out and you see Omar being Omar and he summed it all up perfectly "All in the game, yo"

Karabo
>>110333612

Season 2 is such a weird one, simply because it gets so much better everytime you rewatch it. Like, your initial thoughts on it are "It's okay" then when you finish the show you realize just how important season 2 was, The writing in the Wire is S-tier,

Karabo
>>110338710

When I suggested The Wire, given how other reaction channels only chose popular shows right now I didn't have hope. Then they picked it up and I trusted them to love it but not as much as I do, I underestimated the girls. They are great because they truly get it

Chris Truex
>>110335599

"Don't tell her". One line, delivered perfectly. Andre Royo is utterly heartbreaking, just a great actor.

Chris Truex
>>110336451

I can't remember... do we see the fish in Season 4? I'm pretty sure they have new caretakers (trying not to spoil haha)

TeaDrinker3000
>>110333732

I understand where you're coming from fully now. It's a good point, I'd be interested in reading more of your comments as time goes on.

TeaDrinker3000
>>110334357

The Normies are people that I would actively make up an excuse to get out of hanging out with. Jesus fucking christ I'm so glad our girls actually have brains and hearts.

Anonymous

I watched The Wire only one time when I was 16 (like 10 years ago) and girls, it’s really enjoyable to rediscover this masterpiece with you !

T0ast
>>110336451

Why do people need to talk/hint about future seasons....

Jay Craig
>>110338602

To me the biggest irony about that scene is that Daniels' unit and the Feds are ultimately doing the same thing, what is Jimmy attempting to do with Stringer if not 'tie (his) pelt to the wall'? There'll always be someone to take Avon's place, and there'll always be someone to take Clay Davis' place no-one is changing anything. The issue is that Jimmy and Daniels just want the Feds to play along to help them get their own win, whereas the Feds are, like everyone in this show, looking for their own interests and since they hold the cards in this situation want the Baltimore cops to help THEM get THEIR own win. The crazy thing is if they had wrangled it the Feds way to try and roll up Avon and Stringer into Clay Davis, even with plea deals as cooperators they'd have probably seen more jail time than the 7 and 0 years they saw respectively for what Jimmy could pin on them alone. And D'Angelo would've been free. The fuck did you do Jimmy?

Aj
>>110334357

Lol anything to criticise another channel. You guys acting as if all the Normies are like Pat. Come on, don't be silly

TeaDrinker3000

I'd like to add as well, having watched your full discussion: don't be afraid of your reviews being long for this series girls, honestly. I know part of the reluctance to shoot so much footage comes from the editing workload, but Lola you said it yourself that this isn't really the type of series where there'll be a lot to say during the episode itself, but it'll be the discussion afterwards that will have most of the 'reaction', so to speak. I'd rather wait longer for the edited reactions to come out if it means the discussions aren't rushed or abridged. I just wanted to put that out there because you're well used to your regular patrons at this point saying "don't worry, we love your longer videos", but this time around it is genuinely applicable to the series in question for the discussions to be as long as they are.

Anonymous

Your commentary is really top notch. It is very impressive how you are picking up on all the nuances in your first viewing. Some of these insights took me a couple times to pick up.

jveezy
>>110363766

Yeah, if there's any show that deserves longer reviews, it's this one. There's entire college courses dedicated to this show.

Anonymous

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the girls like season 2. I actually love it and was surprised by some people disliking or even hating it.

Andrew Lynch

Any update on next hxh?

PamRenea

I never thought you guys would react to The Wire. I thought it would be too urban for yall. So forgive me for pre judging. Your commentary on the themes of the show are so nuanced. 👌🏾

Thomas

This is my favorite show ever so watching reactions to this is extremely satisfying but y’all are on another level. The way you guys are able to Catch the even the little details is dope to see. I ain’t never subscribed to a fucking Patreon before but I had to tap in wit yall. Can’t wait till you guys get to season 4 (the greatest season of any show ever) it just might break you. 👍🏾✊🏾

Anonymous

Fingers crossed and praying

Anonymous

The feelings get so much worse as a heads up

Nyeisha Melvina Clark

LOVED SEASON 1. Honestly that Weebay scene with him confessing had me laughing so much, it's genuinely one of the funniest scenes in the show because of how nonchalant he was about the whole thing. Also while D's mom was 100% manipulating him to stay quiet, she also wasn't wrong because Avon staying the king, does keep his family safe, if Avon falls and someone else takes over, they could all be put in jeopardy. Also loved McNulty and Kima's scene, it was great watching their relationship form and it was great seeing how much McNulty cares about Kima. This finale having so many parallels to the 1st episode was so great, so many things changed but yet EVERYTHING stayed the same.