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9/11 - part 2 (Patreon)

Published:
2016-08-01 02:25:27
Imported:
2022-03

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As promised, here's part 2. Usually I wouldn't drop two in the same week let alone the same day, and sorry for that, but as I mentioned in the last post, these were... tricky.

Anyway, technical issues I will work out this week. As always if there are issues with the credits, let me know in a message.

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Comments

Anonymous

Lindsay... thank you.

Anonymous

The notion that western culture is "acting out" as a result of unprocessed buried trauma blew my mind. A lot more things make sense now.

Anonymous

Fascinating review as always! :D I think you made an editing mistake though. During the Extremely Loud Incredibly Close segment, you say "adults wouldn't act like naive kids like Oscar, but instead at like ______" Then you cut to yourself talking again. I feel like there was supposed to be a clip in there.

Anonymous

Fascinating review as always! :D I think you made an editing mistake though. During the Extremely Loud Incredibly Close segment, you say "adults wouldn't act like naive kids like Oscar, but instead at like ______" Then you cut to yourself talking again. I feel like there was supposed to be a clip in there.

Anonymous

Sorry, double post. Also, I'm curious, but how old were you when 9/11 happened?

Anonymous

Really moving and incredibly interesting. This might be your finest work yet.

Joe G
>>2243926

I expected to see a clip of Joffrey Baratheon.

Anonymous

Hell of a piece Lindsay. You exemplified all the points you wanted, tackled it as professionally as you could, and walked away as open-ended as you should have. If there was any piece you had that you could be proud of, I'd say this is definitely it.

Anonymous

Thank you so much for this.

Anonymous

Think you're missing a clip in the Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close segment

Anonymous

Very well put analysis...definitely worth the wait! PS: As a Muslim and someone from the Indian subcontinent, it was awesome that you included the Bollywood perspective

Anonymous

I was going to rewatch part 1, but I guess this will do.

Chelsea Monk

Thanks so much for this episode. Never apologise for long episodes, they are best. not only because we get more content, but they seem to be the ones that have had the most time and research put into them.

Anonymous

An extremely thoughtful and well researched piece, as always. Great job!

Anonymous

I think you've got a clip missing—around 19:00, when you say, "If we were a nation of children, it's not the innocent naifs who cannot conceive that such evil exists in the world like Oscar or Rizvan, it'd be more like this." And then there's a cut. Were you going to put in an image of Eric Cartman?

TalysAlankil

The thumbnail is my favorite thing about this video. (Okay that's not true, the whole video is my favorite thing about this video)

Anonymous

Thanks for taking on such a difficult project. I found it very enjoyable rehashing all the old feelings and experiences. I think we can all remember where we were when we first heard about the attacks in New York and at the Pentagon. It's amazing to think this was only 15 years ago. It feels like ancient history. Cheers.

Anonymous

This was very interesting. Like others I assumed there was a clip missing, my mind filled in Lord of the Flies.

Don Bright

wow this was amazing. gives me a weird new perspective on all those WWII movies from the 50s-70s i watched with my dad growing up. maybe it was their generations way of dealing with that trauma. and in the end, most of it is just... bad... but maybe they needed it...

Anonymous

I think one of the reasons James Cameron so handily gets away with Titanic is because there's not a "villain" upon which the larger tragedy can be blamed. There's a crazy jealous fiance, but he's not responsible for sinking the boat. The iceberg symbolizes the danger of hubris without being directly guided by human hands. The ship itself has human guides, but they are sympathetic.

Mel Vitta

Thank you for finishing it off with your personal experiences. I remember in 2006 reading a South American nation's perspective on 9/11 and the writer had taken a more cynical approach to the American response, taking shots at our collective trauma. I read the whole thing and after reading it, I realized how little thought I had given to the event in the intervening years and became aware of the feelings I had been repressing. All of the sudden I was flooded with the sadness, horror, and frustration that 9/11 had caused in me and knew that the trauma was still with me, like it is with many American's no doubt. I can't help but feel like I know a little of what you felt when you went to the museum.

Anonymous

One other odd bit with "Family Guy" was "Road to Rhode Island", where Stewie distracts airport security with "The Good Ship Lollipop" and comments "I hope Osama bin Laden doesn't know showtunes." A cutaway then shows bin Laden doing "I Hope I Get It" from "A Chorus Line". This has been cut from reruns because it looks like a tasteless 9/11 joke... except it originally aired 5/30/2000, when hardly any one knew who bin Laden was.

Anonymous

Probably your best video so far. Amazing work.

Anonymous

Thank you. This is certainly one of your best videos.

Anonymous

I don't think I'll ever actually understand all of the bundle of feelings (or why Americans chose to go nuts in the collective and singular way you did over them) about 9/11, but this was amazing work even if i feel like i only understand half of it simply because a lot of the emotional resonance around it just isn't there. It's not going to be, even if i were personally affected by it the "never stop crying and being solemn / but no seriously why can't we make a good film of this" feels like talking to martians sometimes (and the rest of the time leaves me feeling like Julie, listening to peoples grief that i don't understand and can't share).

Kyle Williams

I was living in Thailand for a year while working on my PhD in 2001. That particular day I was in a small town kind of in the middle of nowhere. So I felt personally pretty safe while it happened. Thankfully I stayed in Thailand for another 3 months beyond 9/11 so I missed out on the worst of people losing their minds. I distinctly remember street vendors selling T-shirts with Osama Bin Laden's face on them in the weeks after the attack. It is really hard to explain in the comments section of a video but in short it wasn't really because they supported him. More like he suddenly became the most famous/infamous person in the world. I really wanted to buy one as a strange memento of the time but I was scared to death that TSA would find the shirt in my luggage and I'd never be heard from again.

Rhiannon M

Thank you so much for this video. A couple of weeks ago, right after the Pulse Nightclub shootings in Orlando, my sister (who knew that I had a queer friend who lived in Florida) asked if I was alright. The only answer I could give her was that I was just tired and numb, and that feeling has kinda persisted with me ever since 9/11. All of these tragedies happen, all of these lives are destroyed –both directly and indirectly— and it just becomes so much noise. Sometimes I wish I could feel more, rather than this… blankness. But thank you for laying this all out there and talking about it in frank and honest terms. I’m very proud to be your Patron.

Anonymous

I recently started listening to the archives of the Best Show (a New Jersey comedy/call-in radio show hosted by Tom Scharpling - currently voicing Greg in Steven Universe) and what struck me in the shows in the two weeks after 9/11 is that compared to the belligerence America has projected abroad since (British here), particularly recently, is that there isn't much anger; just hurt, confusion, determination, compassion. I understand that this may just be a result of the calls being vetted, but given where much of the US seems to be now with Trump etc the reaction still felt kinda unexpected and even a little heartening. Anyway archive's at <a href="https://wfmu.org/playlists/BS" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://wfmu.org/playlists/BS</a> if anyone's curious, it's a good show in general and the older ones can be an interesting little time capsule.

Anonymous

I really enjoyed these two videos. I lived very close to JFK and I remember for years post 9/11 the sound of planes that sounded too close would make me jump out of bed into a panic because I felt like they would come crashing down. The strangest things was I wouldn't realize I felt that way until I heard the sound and my heart would just start racing.

Anonymous

Thanks, Lindsay. I enjoy these videos immensely.

Anonymous

Just became a patreon (I joined here just for you and Todd in the Shadows). Stated glut watching you about a year ago after the first video I saw of yours The Smurfette Principle <a href="https://youtu.be/mjE6hHeQfA8" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/mjE6hHeQfA8</a> - I am glad you are doing more insightful and researched reviews/critiques such as this and other vids on actual people and events - you are not only more thoughtful than any reviewer on YouTube, but possibly every movie critic ever. A also agree with your opinions about 90% of the time. I am the same age, but am a male with more conservative/religious views, but nice we can agree most of the time on media, but you are way more articulate on anything I could every say.