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Star Trek 3x17 Full Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-02-18 18:00:05
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2023-04

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Star Trek 3x17 Full Reaction

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Ryan

This episode's story came from DC Fontana and the script was written by John Meredyth Lucas, both of them experienced Trek writers, so it's really bizarre how much the writing just doesn't get Spock at all, portraying him as utterly insufferable in insisting on perfect logic at all times, and seeming totally unfamiliar with the concept of metaphor and exaggeration. It's actually a lot closer to what we'd later get with Data in TNG.

Anonymous

Always loved this one. Unfortunately, that's that last of the high points of season 3 for me :(

Anonymous

When you said that you were hoping that this episode would be something that would perk you up some, give you some energy, something to be excited about, my initial reaction was, “Well, given Sulu has some time in the limelight this episode, I would wager that should brighten thing’s up for you some.” It would appear I was proven right seeing your delightful reaction to hearing Sulu was going to be part of the survey party beaming down. The way you sounded so excited, and your eyes just lit up, that was great, Jess; that was really great. Answering your question about the doctors, offhand, I don’t recall any doctors in the original Star Trek era other than Bones on the Enterprise, though it does make sense there would be other doctors. Yeah, overall, an intriguing and engaging episode. I love Lee Meriwether, dear Catwoman, as Losira. It makes me wonder if someone in the casting was a big fan of Batman. I knew you’d comment on her eye-makeup. I’ve heard jokes about that comparing it to Tammy Faye Baker, which is a fair description. I LOVED it when you got so protective of Sulu in the scene where Losira tried to touch Sulu, thus putting Sulu in peril. It was perhaps my favorite part of the reaction. When you were telling Sulu, “Shoot her.” it made me laugh, particularly as it made me think of Muldoon in Jurassic Park, yelling, “Shoot her!! SHOOOOOT!!! HER!!!” Fortunately, Sulu stands his ground, and yes, good that Sulu doesn’t die. He received some very big boo-boos, sure, but he can’t die, because hey, let’s face it, he is too iconic. As I see Ryan commented, it’s weird how Spock comes across as being more like Data in this episode, and again, as Ryan noted, this episode was written by experienced Star Trek writers, making Spock’s characterization in this episode odder still. The part about it that bugs me some is that it’s happening in a season three episode. Say this episode was written early in season one, or took place prior to the first season, I wouldn’t be bothered all that much. As it is, you seemed unbothered by it, which I thought was nice to see. Yeah, Scotty was terrific in this episode doing the work. I loved your post-episode comments on Scotty. I'm with you on having a neuralyzer erase the one bit of uncomfortable characterization that Scotty had in the one episode with John Fiedler. A good resolution to the episode. I had a laugh at your suggestion about how the crew could have combated Losira, as yes, using the old shell game, that would have been a most efficacious strategy. I really liked how the ending was on the sadder side, and I said, “Kind of bleak. Love that.” All in all, a most fun reaction that I enjoyed, again, particularly for how much you loved that we got the Sulu content that we did. That just made me so happy, Jess. Thanks for the fun reaction.

Ryan
>>102231611

Or maybe a big Time Tunnel fan, which she'd done between the Batman film (her only time playing Catwoman, while Julie Newmar and Eartha Kitt both got sizable runs in the show) and her appearance here. Plus we'd already had Whit Bissel in Trouble for Tribbles (and decades later, James Darren even got a recurring role on DS9!).

Josef Schiltz
>>102212430

I supposed that the situation has initiated an interior battle with Spock and both his emotional and logical sides ramped up their conflict. In the moment, his purely Vulcan side dismissed 'metaphor' and 'exaggeration' as linguicidally extraneous to his concentration and, after "noting them" would have locked them within a mental cupboard for examining at a less pressing time.

Josef Schiltz
>>102231611

There had been a previous appearance of Dr M'Benga in season two's 'A Private Little War'.

Henry Fuller

I used to watch Star Trek with Dad on Wpix 11 out of New York, NY. He was a teacher so he'd usually fall asleep correcting papers. They promoted the heck out of TNG when it first premiered a special 2 hour movie presentation. Then kept seeing Brent Spiners guest spots on Night Court and Jonathan Frakes on North and South. Gates Macfadden hanging out with muppets.

Henry Fuller

Did anyone else have to deal with the snowy screen from their tv antenna signal when they first watched Star Trek?

Henry Fuller

The tuning dial on our tv broken so it made it difficult to clear up the picture sometimes

Ryan
>>102300582

I did, though it was because my parents still had their black and white TV from the '60s (this was the '80s).

Josef Schiltz
>>102300582

When I watched Trek first, it was around 1970 and on BBC1. We had a rooftop aerial and a black and white set which we had bought in 1964. Even though we were built into a hill - Atop a medieval cemetery - I'm not kidding! - We still had a decent picture. I honestly can't remember which was the first episode that I saw. By now, it's all jumbled in the memory. There was a full-page illustrated Star Trek strip adorning the inner pages of the Radio Times that first week, drawn by Frank Bellamy, who also did weekly spot illustrations for the Doctor Who serials on Saturdays and drew the Thunderbirds strips for TV 21.

Henry Fuller
>>102300582

My parents always had second hand black and white tvs they were in poor shape. They got their first color tv I think in 79 or 80. We only got a second tv from my uncle when he died in 1985. Antenna signal was VHF but not great. Sure it was when it was new when house was built in 1963. By the time my parents moved in there in 1973 it was ok. By the 80s and 90s not so great. Roof antenna got battered around alot over the years. Parents finally switched to Cable television in 1994. Too bad i missed all the classic doctor who on the scifi channel couple years before that.

Josef Schiltz
>>102300582

We're in pretty good shape with what we can see at present. Of course, it's a great shame that so much of the 60s programme is missing. A lot exists in the memories of those of us who were fortunate to see them. John Nathan Turner said that "Memory cheats". Maybe, and he thought we were seeing these serials through rose-tinted spectacles! I don't think we were cheated as much as he liked to think. I remember seeing The Web Planet upon transmission and, seeing it today on DVD, I still retain the sense that it was a damn good effort! I'd love to see a film version with Jim Henson's creature workshop tackling the Zarbi and the grub guns and the Menoptera and the Animus. I think those practical effects were fantastic.

Josef Schiltz
>>102300582

Strangely enough, and sadly timely, it was Fantastic Voyage with Raquel Welch. I saw it at a cinema in Felixstowe, if you look on Google maps you can see where that is, on the Suffolk coast. I have it on DVD. I'm going to be sad next time I see it. The next film that I saw was 2001: A Space Odyssey. I must admit to not being a cinema goer and have mostly relied on waiting until they come on TV. The last film I saw was Titus.

Henry Fuller
>>102300582

Fantastic Voyage didn't that have Donald Plesance in it? Raquel Wellch she just passed away last week she was 82. I think I saw that movie on late night tv when I was a kid. I've never seen 2001 all the way through. I know Gary Lockwood was in it though. Gary Mitchell from Star Trek. The first I saw was Thd Fox and the Hound and ET in 1982. I Was 3 years old.

Josef Schiltz
>>102300582

When we were given a free illustration project to tackle when I was at art college in the 70s, 2001: A Space Odyssey was the novel that I tackled. At that time, the film was only ten years old, and itself is based on one of Arthur C Clarke's short stories. Arthur went on - with some added help from co-writers - to write some sequels. A sequel film was also produced. The Rama books are an especially good read. I have to admit that I've never seen ET or The Fox and the Hound. I've read about both though and can reference them in my book /magazine collection. I used to keep well up to date on releases. Not so much these days. I've completely lapsed on anything modern Trek related and almost on Doctor Who. I'm with Jess, in that it has been a "mixed bag", and have even slept through episodes. Even purposefully missing some as an experiment. That's something of note and especially since I've been watching without fail - except for a holiday in Yorkshire with some relatives who didn't have a television in the early 70s - since the mid-Hartnell era. As Scotty would say about the Enterprise when there's something off going on, "I'm telling ya! It just doesn't . . . FEEL right!" Over all, the philosophy feels thrown and neglected. I'm interested to see what happens with RTD's return. Yes, Fantastic Voyage did have Donald Pleasence. There's some stand out references to the film in Doctor Who as well!