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Hey everyone,

I'm currently still working on the current chapter, but it's not quite finished yet. I hope to wrap it up in the next few days.

I won't be pre-charging chapters any more, so you don't need to worry about any Patreon charges until I've caught up on the chapters I owe you.

Hope you're all well,

Tefler

Comments

Anonymous

Buddy, go ahead and charge Haters gonna hate Honestly it'll be funny to watch them rage in the meanwhile Totally worth the $2

Anonymous

I'm happy to see you're not dead btw

Anonymous

Thanks for the info - keep well...

Mapstar

Man WE Hope that you are well…

Anonymous

I didn't mind the precharge.. I'm happy to support you

Anonymous

Reasuring for some for sure. Personaly all.i care is that my favourite author gets well from his health issues and the issuing of chapters i consider always a treat. Prepaid or otherwise. Best wishes

stephen mincher

I would rather a precharge than rushing the chapters.

Anonymous

I think feeling forced to do tasks to get out from under an obligation can really suck the joy out of creative endeavours. I personally don't mind the precharges and the wait, but there seems to be a vocal minority that does. I feel bad that it's come to this, because it can't be good for quality of life and of the work. At least know that there are some, maybe most, that understand and aren't making it a big deal. Be well.

Anonymous

Keep up the good work! Health comes first!

Bp Hlpt

I hope your health improves soon, Tefler.

Anonymous

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to the next installment.

Rayce Royal

Mr. Teller, you have created a Sci-fi masterpiece that spans the known universe and beyond. It is so good that it has become addictive. I believe this is the reason for the vocal minority who complain. They are not mad about precharges. They are jonesing for the next fix. Please take that as the compliment it is and continue to produce your addictive story. We love you man.

Who Me

Be well my #2 all time favorite author!

Anonymous

Glad to hear from you Tef, get well soon! We will be all (almost all - stupid haters) be glad to read more when you are able. Take your time so you can release the fine stories we have 'all' enjoyed.

Anonymous

I’d honestly just rather pay a monthly amount to support. Chapters or not. Its the uncertainty of things for author and patron that is the bigger issue. Author gets a known amount for whatever work is produced and the patron know they may not see anything but choose to support anyway. It’s a much better arrangement for all to me.

Dani Vega

I still think it's a loud minority that is angry about the precharges. I personally don't mind paying Tefler a few bucks of "salary" every month, regardless whether he's delivering or not, just so that he can live his dream of being an author and doesn't have to feel obliged to produce when his muse isn't cooperative or life happens. I prefer a Tefler without financial worries taking his time over a stressed out one with rushed output

Kensyi

Normally I really don't mind the recharge when it is only a month behind, but at this point I feel like we need to catch up with what is owed.

Anonymous

You do what you need, good sir. Couple months ago I increased my pledge per story in order to support you MORE. So do what you need, take care of yourself and yours. Those who love and support you and your work will be right here too.

Cignal

Most of us didn't mind the pre charge. What is more important to most of us is how are you doing?

Anonymous

Welcome back. I hope you are feeling better and will remain so.

Tefler

I'm actually in good health at the moment. Unfortunately, my wife went on a camping trip with the boys, then tripped over a guy-rope and broke her arm. So she hasn't been able to drive all month, and is struggling to do domestic chores as well, because her arm is in a cast. That's meant I've been running around like a blue-arsed fly to ferry the kids around for all their summer activities. In a couple of weeks they're both back at school, which would be a relief, but I'm stuck doing both school runs!

bob lakhanpal

Don't believe in such crap until I can verify on my own. As it is, can't hope for anything new cause tefler owes about 4-5 chapters. I don't think he will wait for so long. We are going to be pre charged..... 😁

Anonymous

Every author I've liked and waited for this much has died before finishing... so, as you are younger than them (well, considering your use of computers) i expect you to not die before the universe is saved

Anonymous

Tefler, so glad to know you are still above ground !! Was worried about your outcome. I always look forward to each and every chapter you write for us. Best wishes for your good health a long, long story. John

Anonymous

Perfect. Not even remotely perturbed by the lack of progress. Thank you for not placeholdering.

Anonymous

Hi Tefler, Thanks for the update. Eager to read n'est chapters. I wish you the best.

Anonymous

Love the update, but never a problem.

Anonymous

Glad you're doing well. I don't mind the charges. I'm looking forward to more chapters.

Anonymous

Hope ur doing well, I lost track of the chapter precharging to be honest, however your work speaks for itself and is magnificent so I just keep it running, i look forward to many more chapters, even organized all chapters into books for myself after your series stopped with new amazon releases. Will buy ur books still when you put them up of course, i just keep all your books saved on my phone for my reading pleasure 😁

Green Seadragon

We are jonesing for our fix, gimmegimmegimme daddy I need this ill...

George McKeever

I'm glad to hear that we are done being precharged. I hope that the writing comes easy for you so we can get caught up and back to the proper schedule paying for chapters that are completed.

Anonymous

I hope you're healing well and completely

Anonymous

Aye. Get thysen fit, Tefler lad 👍🤞

Anonymous

I'm more about quality over quality anyways. Feel free to take your time as far as I'm concerned.

Tom Ray

Stay Healthy and keep the creative juices flowing...

Anonymous

After reading the other comments, I stand with the community: you matter more than the money. Yes, we want the story, but we support YOU first! Hope all is well, and don't stress about things. I, for one, am not going anywhere. 😊

Unresolved Plots

Thanks for the update Tefler. Glad to hear you are feeling ok. Hope things get better soon for you and your family.

Michael56Smith

.40: Okay guys, no more placeholders, .... so no further complaining, right? ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.41: I am so sorry to hear about your wife's broken arm, itchy and takes forever to heal up, I feel for her, .... and you as your kids summer driver, .... .... and a big thanks for updating us, and I am looking forward to more TSM story in the near future, eventually, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.44: Alright, so I am disappointed that I won't be able to read the 2nd half of chapter #164 today, ... but yesterday I had a new ADT chapter, and today I do have a new BurntRedstone to read, so today is a very good day, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Hope you are doing better

AzureReader

Thanks for the update. Your writing speed is an existential gauge of your overall condition. Two months to write a half a chapter isn’t going to be a viable line of work. I’d piss on a spark plug if it would help get you back in fighting form. In lieu of that I’m sending you all the positive vibes I’ve got.

Anonymous

Well if that stopped you for this month than we will not see an update for several weeks... C'mon.. in cast for a month ( yeah that truelly is shit ) .. . But why now telling us and not earlier this month..?? What's next ?? Case of smelly feet ??? Or runny nose that is holding you back ?

Rayce Royal

It's a Security Firm that specializes in preventing Home Invasions. It also has killer home security cameras and. . . oh wait. Nevermind. I'm going to hell anyway :)

Newnotsure

Re- reading BobbyBrandt heavy traffic

Tyler Derkearmian

Even with no new content this is actually a welcome surprise. Could we be seeing a new Tefler?

Jim lynch

That’s great tefler I sit patiently awaiting this next chapter

Tefler Fan 007

Any chance we will get the rest of 164 tonight?

Anonymous

Glad you're doing better Tefler.

Dan

Hope you continue to do well Tefler, I would argue if you wanna drop some concept art, or a new universe map with the Progenitor factions included. I'd be down to pay for those things as posts.

Anonymous

Thanks for the update. Your timing is not so great. I'm just now starting to come down off my TSM withdrawal symptoms. My addiction is going to start all over again. I LOVE IT! GIMME A FIX!!!

Anonymous

OK, this could be good. I'm gonna start with the obvious one. J.R.R.Tolkien

Keepit simple

A dragon's tale. Free on Lit or you can support author on patreon to get access to a chapter a month in advance. Releases one chapter at end of each month 😁

Anonymous

@tefler I hated the precharge thing, I feel the circumstance reduced the quality of your writing and pushed you into a sometimes last minute rush to deliver something. Patreon also has a ‘support my creator monthly’ subscription offering. I’ll bet a significant number of your fans would sign up, and could care less about monthly deadlines or who owes who x many words. We love the story you have created - I for one would be happy to support you through your prolific writing times and not. Some have said you need the pressure of the deadline.. If you set up a monthly support Patreon offering I’m willing to give you a year or two to rethink that motivation and get back to basics - and I’ll bet I am not alone in support for you.

Michael56Smith

.65: hey there Robert, if you are looking for a good read to tide you over, then I have a couple of recommendations for you buddy, .... --- the first is "A Dragons Tale" by Antiproton, you can read most of ADT for free on Literotica.com, and if you like it, the more recent chapters are available on Patreon, ... ---- and number two is for Any / All of the works of BurntRedstone, all for free on Literotica and also available on SOL, ... and he has just dropped 2 out of 3 rather large installments in this month, August, with the conclusion to this new Trilogy scheduled for September, .... it is titled: "Walking an Endless Path", ... with parts 1 & 2 ready to read now, and they are quite good, .... he also has 67 more wonderful stories out there, with several of them being parts from a few awesome series that are quite amazing / yummy, .... And even if you are already a BurntRedstone fan, did you know that he just posted 'Walking, ... part 2? .... and that 'Walking," is a prequel to the Jack Danner series universe, one of my very favorite of his series', ... --- and 3rdly., I heartily recommend 'the Prometheus Project' by C.H.Darkstrider, ... a wonderful story, and it has a number of similarities to TSM, .... but it was a bit better thought out to begin with, .. ENJOY ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.66: Darn it sunxia, Tef has been churning out TSM chapters since December of 2015, over 4 million words, .... and here you are, humbly giving him advice on how to do his job to your satisfaction, .... you are a bold one for certain, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

If you actually read my comment, there was no advice there. I have not been in Tefler’s position and would not make any such presumption. I do suggest an alternative path towards financial support that I would be happy to provide if such an option was available in Patreon. Ttfn

dakota downey

Glad the place holders aren't gonna continue while I understand life has been hard I actually reduced what I was paying because it felt wrong to be charged for a placeholder instead of actual content once your all caught up I'll probably move my patreon back to the old amount but we will see depends on how wel you stick to your word

Anonymous

Same here I have also minimized my payment and will put it back up as soon as Tef has caught up.

Jim lynch

Come on don’t leave us hanging man I’m guessing it’s J K Rowling

Jim lynch

Be careful saying that kind of thing on here it’s not allowed mr m smith or Richard will point out you can’t say that because your a hater but they can call you all the names under the sun but that makes them good people and not haters 😂 clowns

Jim lynch

Wow robster that is just uncalled for and in real bad taste you have no idea if it’s true or not. I didn’t like the pre charging but I’d never resort to this kind of bullshit message if I was tefler I’d be tempted to remove you from Patreon I bet you only pledge a dollar too.

Jim lynch

I’m hoping he will give us 164 and 165 because he said next chapter not rest of chapter so fingers crossed I’m right not Jedi but there again you can read minds so your prob correct 😂

Jim lynch

Try any story by soul71 on literotica but my favourite’s are pharaoh’s curse and porn star family those two are as good as TSM honestly they really are that good

Jim lynch

Sunxia it’s not worth pointing out anything to mr smith he just goes off on one if he thinks your badmouthing his lover I bet tefler has a restraining order out on him lol. I can read and I know you didn’t once tell him how to write or bad mouth him but try giving GOOD advice that I bet tefler never knew about I’ve never heard of that either so good job lady.

Anonymous

I did the same thing, limit/minimized my payment. I want to show support but I’m not comfortable pre-paying. 1. I would support flat monthly fees. Don’t know how we could change to that format. AND/or 2. I would Strongly support shorter chapters (10-15,000 words). Reduce the stress of having to wait for larger chapters to be completed before release. If Tefler wants larger releases - then release multiple short chapters.

Michael56Smith

.81: hey Jim, I find that haters and bashers really tend to p**s me off, ... I truly need to provide some push-back from their comments, .... I hope that eventually some of you that prefer to stay less than nice will someday improve, .... good luck, .... ;-) ttfn

SP Rupert

I’m not supportive of shorter chapters but I have been supportive of a monthly donation path for a few years now.

SP Rupert

Ragardless of how YOU feel about the voices not liking the pre-charging, those voices that have spoken up have finally been heard as they voted with their wallets. Now hopefully Tefler will hear the voices of wanting to alter the way the audience donations will be heard.

Anonymous

For "haters and bashers" just substitute "people who disagree with me" and you'll understand Michael56Smith perfectly ;) fofg

Michael56Smith

.85: okay guys, ADT is short for 'A Dragon's Tale', ... a well told story by Antiproton, to be found both on Literotica.com and on Patreon, .... enjoy, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.86: Sorry Hater Andrew, but I do not think that you really 'understand', you seem to just hate and bash, .... not the same thing, ... best of luck on improving your thoughts, .... ;-) ttfn

20 ton

I don’t like the idea of shorter chapters or monthly payments because it doesn’t solve the underlying problem. Tefler is a self described procrastinator ,like my self. I’ve avoided starting my own business, which this is for Tef, because I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t get bogged down with easy distractions. A normal forty hour job is a little over 160 hours per month. Does anyone believe each chapter is 160 of focused work? I couldn’t create something this wonderful regardless of how many hours I spent but I’m not trying to support my family with it. I work construction and pick up extra hours in case my roof leaks. 6 10’s and an 8 until this job catches up. This comes down to Tef using any of a number of methods to overcome procrastination. Hopefully when his health issues are remedied, he can get ahead before the next problems arise. Many of us love Burntredstone too. People may beg but they have no grounds to bitch because he doesn’t owe us anything. I hope Tef gets to finish this story from ahead instead of behind.

Bp Hlpt

I am NOT in favor of a flat monthly fee. Because if one was implemented, then Tefler would have no motivation at all to produce content. He would get paid rather he wrote a single word or not. He has professed that he needs the motivation. Since he has stated above that he will not be pre-charging, he now has a lot of motivation to get caught up so he can get paid again.

Anonymous

Enjoy the time with your life. They grow up too fast. God speed on healing to both you and your wife.

Anonymous

Are you looking for a 3SM Discord Server for serious people run by a lunatic? Have we got the server for you!!! Come on down to "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum" and post your thoughts on the epic. https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

George Dennison

Hey Tef, Just catchin' up w/ the world. Gall stones, eh, not so good. At your age, that's not a plus. But, as they say, if you want to feel better about your own turmoils, talk to someone who's worse off. I got Covid in Jan '19, before anyone knew what the fuck it was. One of the US's 1st documented cases was a grade school janitor in Ore, who'd recently been to China. That grade school is < 2 miles from my house. (My theory, backed up by science, about how I got is another story, & too fucking scary to tell; what I'm about to share will scare you enough.) I got sick over MLK holiday weekend; sick for 3 wks, then dead tired for 2 more. When I had enough energy to shave, finally, I found a ping pong ball sized lump under my R ear. About 25% above the skin. Cause of my medical background, I knew this was not good, especially as Covid was getting going, & I knew it was gonna be bad. I had just heard a Brit doc, on BBC radio, talk about having Covid; when he said the most bizarre symptom was no warning vomiting, I realized I'd had Covid. Too soon for testing, I was more concerned about The Lump. Virtual MD appt got me an MRI; 3-4 wks later: necrotic lymph node. Great... gonna need surgery during a pandemic. Next, a CT scan confirmed diagnosis; 4-5 wks later, appt w/ surgeon. Five min into appt, he tells me I have HPV throat cancer in my R tonsil & lymph node. No one had mentioned cancer, at all; complete shock. July '19 had tonsil removed & 13-14 cm incision from below R ear, down & across throat, to remove lymph & check for spread. Radiation was planned, but a clean bill on spread cancelled it. Time to recover. Spring, 2020, R ear ache returned; only symptom I had, previously, other than The Lump. I knew the score, but tried to blame allergies. Summer, '20, diag: cancer returned to tonsil location, 7 wks of chemo & radiation began. By Oct '20, treatment over; I now had a gastric tube thru my abdomen to eat, a full time catheter to pee, no saliva production & something called First Bite Syndrome, (because of the neck incision, a major saliva gland nerve was severed; that little twinge we get in our jaw, when we taste something sweet, tart or bitter? It now felt/feels like an ice pick is stabbing me below my R ear.) Chemo & rad kicked my ass; by Fall '22, I was out of bed 3-4 hrs a day. By Spring '23, I was 50% & finally getting enough activity/work done to begin to build strength & endurance back up. I still have ½ of the house's roof structure to rebuild & re-roof, plus a major plumbing disaster happened during all this shit: my house needs to be re-plumbed. We've had a temp water supply for 2-3 yrs; hot water from faucets, turned way down because we have no cold water supply. Have cold water to washer & a spigot in the utility room. But, who's bitchin', I'm alive... well, an unrelated CT scan last year turned up a pancreatic cyst, which led to a special MRI. The abdominal oncologist tells me no worries about the cyst, not cancer, unlikely to become cancer... but, we found a spot on your liver. 1st it was The Lump, now it's A Spot; when the docs start talking w/ capitalized words, you're fucked. Now have liver cancer; just finished liver radiation, last week. This time around, the 3rd go, it seemed like the urgency of the The Lump & it's Sequel were not driving A Spot goings on. I'll be 70 this month; I asked my throat onco why no urgency. Is A Spot no big deal, or is my approaching 70 w/ A Spot, a fate accomplí? Well... he says, it's the latter; the HPV cancer patients I've had w/ A Spot average 1-3 yrs. He quickly reassured me, or tried, 1-3 was an average & w/ my good overall health & early detection, it could be much longer. I've pushed my other onco's & they've all demured, then I had a sub onco, a German born guy doing cancer training at the med school I go to. He was precise & to the point, which I appreciated: from here on, it will individual treatment for tumors which appear, of which A Spot is just the 1st. They'll scan the hell out of me to try to stat ahead, but eventually 1 will slip by, or they'll be too many, or... & that'll be it. It's actually much more calming & reassuring to knoe what my end is likely gonna be, while still having the mystery of when. I'm too cantankerous for it to be soon; I have too much to get done, plus I still have things I want to do. I'm in the midst of a 25 yr overdue remodel of my fabrication shop, (which I need to get up & get to work on.) The remodel/re-org/addition has the triple goal of getting me back in shape so I can finish the much more physically strenuous roof rebuild, getting the shop in shape for launching the YouTube channel I've been planning since pre-Covid/cancer AND it gives me something to focus on, plan & keep my mind busy & off my impending demise. Speaking of Covid & cancer, because of my medical background & being an exercise physiologist, I got curious about how Covid worked. I also got curious about HPV cancer in men; didn't know it was a thing. Funny thing happens when a trained mind gets curious, discoveries are made. In 2020, I came to the conclusion there was a very high likelihood the Covid stimulated the otherwise dormant genetic deformities caused by HPV, leading to my developing cancer. In short, Covid caused my cancer... that thought will suck yer nuts up, eh? All I had was my theory, & no one I communicated w/ in the medical field told me I was nuts. Then, in Summer, 2021, a group of Greek doctors presented a paper on the 1st fully documented case of a patient contracting Covid, & subsequently developing HPV cancer. So, it's been a long strange trip since '19, for me. I'm just getting caught up w/ life & about to get caught up w/ John & the girls. Hope you're recovering swiftly from your stones; keep pressing forward, you've got young ones & a wife who need you. My best to you, old friend... Regards, GeoD PS How I got Covid is even scarier, msg me direct & I clue you in. Don't want to put it out publicly, yet. G

Anonymous

If you are looking for a 3SM Discord Server for serious people with 1430 members and a site that does not tolerate attacks or slander against anyone, where politics are not discussed, and contains a LOT of user added value such as blueprints, TSM art, an up to date synopsis by chapter and day....and the list goes on, you may want to consider the oldest TSM discord server instead: https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord

Parzival

The major problem with that server is you Rus. You, the draconian rules and acting like it’s your sandbox. The new server is better simply because you’re not involved. The conversation is better, because you don’t control it. The feeling and camaraderie is better because you’re not there to cause division. People are free to speak their mind and enjoy discussing TSM and they don’t need all the control over them to be respectful and have a great time. The other server could have 1600 members if you weren’t on it to piss everyone off. So if you want some artwork and 1400 members where it’s still always the same half a dozen voices and a bunch of rules and control check out Rus’s server (might not be called that but he sure makes you feel that’s the case). But if you prefer a good vibe and atmosphere to discuss your favourite story check out Kester’s. Rus was banned so you don’t have to put up with his crap. That alone makes it 10x better but it’s also got the galaxy’s best collection of redheads.

Parzival

It’s also worth pointing out Kester has never once said anything on your advertisements. He’s left you alone to do you but your such a meddlesome POS you just can’t help yourself but to have a crack on his. Pretty easy to see who the better person is. And that’s why everyone on that server would rather be there and appreciates that Kester made a place we could hang out and enjoy without you there to ruin it

Florida Reader

Dude -- I have no words. I too got Covid incredibly early in late 2019 ( I was in Washington when I caught it). Sicker than I have ever been, thought I was going to the hospital with the worst flu. Your analysis is pretty decent. I have genes that react very poorly to Covid. Took me forever to recover. Sounds like you have figured a way to sane through all of your travails. Nicely done.

Unresolved Plots

Very well written and fascinating account of your struggles with your health over the last few years. Hope your endeavours with Youtube are successful.

Bp Hlpt

IF Tefler doesn't follow through as he said he would, then you are correct. But I hope you are wrong.

Anonymous

Kindly enlighten me on just whom I 'hate' and 'bash'. Do you mean that when I am fraudulently charged for products I never received, in breach of the rules of this site, I am somehow at fault for requiring redress? Am I at fault in pointing out that I am sick and tired of excuses which range from the outlandish to the ridiculous? Or are you just upset that everyone is not just standing in line with you like some perverse race of Stepford readers?

Anonymous

I can only hope you beat the odds. Thank you for sharing. I can tell you with full confidence that you handled your health issues far better than I would’ve. You’ve got more drive in your 70s than I ever did in my 20s and 30s. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Anonymous

Parzival First: You have very selective memory. Second: I do very little on the site by way of enforcing the rules of the site (set down by ALL the admins there) without consulting the other Admins, unless it is a gross violation of the rules. Third: You might want to learn a bit more about Kester and his motivations and what he has said to me and about me and done to me because he doesn't agree with something I said about history. Fourth: I am not the one who is doing all the begging to get new members to my site....Kester is. I just point out there is a better alternative that does not allow people to demean others.....including Tefler. If that is the best knock on me or the site I support...I will gladly wear that badge. So, sit in your ignorance and be happy. And thank you for making the difference between the sites obvious to the rest of the world. Asking for support is not begging....unless it is me asking for sex...lmao. I am sure you will have a snide comment about my sense of humor, too.

Parzival

You both put ads up for your discords the difference I see and that is obvious is Kester does not interfere with yours. You’re the one that decided to comment on his and try to belittle it which is what you’re known for. I’ve been a member of both discords so I would say I have a better idea of what is said and how people conduct themselves. I’ve never once seen Kester do anything other than support Tef. You on the other hand are acrimonious and create disharmony and from what I’ve seen it’s you who’s attacked and slandered Kester not the other way around. You carry on like you’re in charge and have Tefs confidences which I hope for all our sake isn’t true. We’re all fans of Tefs work and want to see him not only finish his story but succeed in writing and supporting his family and I’ve commented before that you specifically don’t help that. You alienate and anger a large percentage of his fans and I hope Tef and the other admins on the discord you are a part of finally see you for the cancer that you are. Simple fact is there would only be one discord if it wasn’t for you so every member that joins Kester’s discord is showing how much disharmony you create. Right now that’s over 200 people. I don’t mind either of you posting advertising discord channels but you’re the one that had to go leave snide remarks on his. And that’s what everyone can see. If not for that I’d have left well enough alone as I have done up until now but you are a bully and I despise that. So for everyone’s sake sit down and shut up. You’ve already ruined one discord leave this one in peace. As I said the best part about it as that you’re not there and frankly if I was Kester that’s all I’d be saying in my ads…

Anonymous

<i>If you are looking for a 3SM Discord Server for serious people with 1430 members and a site that does not tolerate attacks or slander against anyone, where politics are not discussed, and contains a LOT of user added value such as blueprints, TSM art, an up to date synopsis by chapter and day....and the list goes on, you may want to consider the oldest TSM discord server instead:</i> the difference I see and that is obvious is Kester does not interfere with yours. You’re the one that decided to comment on his and try to belittle it I am confused because it is NOT obvious, please point out to me where the above statement belittles Kester's Discord Server. If you didn't have a problem with advertisement then why comment?

Jim lynch

I don’t go on discord but even I can see where he’s belittling kesters discord on that comment.

Jim lynch

But at least now you can get your money back for pre charged if it goes to monthly there’s no chance of that .

Anonymous

Really? Which word or phrase? Please highlight and post the slander and belittling done to Kester. Because as far as I can see, everything in that statement above are positive selling points with no mention of Kester. And again, if you don't have a problem with advertisement, why are you commenting?

RedB

Take care mate.

Michael56Smith

.113: ...Tony Kester's "Ramming Speed!" Discord site is pretty awesome, with a bunch of Redheads too, ... if you like that sort of thing, ... ;-) ttfn

AzureReader

Endlessly sending money for nothing to a habitual procrastinator isn’t motivating him to write. Exactly the opposite. We all sympathize for the death of a parent and a bad gall bladder. I’m starting to wonder if his fans waving a dollar or two by the thousands perhaps facilitated him taking a year off to deal with life shit anyone else with a job is gets a matter of days for. Being ‘supportive’ perhaps isn’t, at least in Tefler’s case. Writing isn’t something you can only do when life is perfect. The passionate writer picks up the pen despite the pain of life. Perhaps because of it. Recurve, may she rest in peace, seems to be an example of a passion for writing despite a truly unfair amount of suffering in her life. It pains me to be part of a ‘supportive’ group that seems to be playing a role in hurting Tefler’s passion to write. For this reason I am ending my support for Tefler today. I earnestly hope that this action is a tiny step in helping Tefler, just as my unconditional financial support seems to have been a tiny step in the wrong direction. I’ll be checking in once in a while. Tef, if you ever rediscover your passion for writing despite the hurricane of life I’ll be equally as passionate about supporting you again. Good luck my friend.

Anonymous

Get well we need more to read

Newnotsure (edited)

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2023-09-06 06:14:43 Just wow this few days have had the most conversations on everything I too have been thinking of pulling my support Tefler is now a self employed person he needs to do work to get paid I too will give it to the end of the week and pull my support
2023-09-06 03:39:34 Just wow this few days have had the most conversations on everything I too have been thinking of pulling my support, Tefler is now a self employed person he needs to do work to get paid I too will give it to the end of the week and pull my support

Just wow this few days have had the most conversations on everything I too have been thinking of pulling my support, Tefler is now a self employed person he needs to do work to get paid I too will give it to the end of the week and pull my support

whyme943

Good luck

Anonymous

I understand a few health problems but ever sense he went on patron and started getting paid. The chapters are smaller and slower coming, and I'm getting tired of having to prepay for a story that use to be free. Get your Shit together Tefler...............

Michael56Smith

.121: Hey there Craig, ,,,, just a thought, ... Tef began his TSM epic back in December of 2015, and it was a few years of free chapters before he switched to Petreon for his first chapters for his fans, (it is now over 4 million words later), .... -- and believe it or not, life does happen, … kids get sick, wives get sick or break an arm, mother-in-law's get sick, Tef's Father passes, and Tef himself gets sick too, ... oh, and roofs can leak during rainy season, ... so yeah, his writing muse has been occasionally absent, … so what? We are still getting the story, … slower than we would wish it, but it is moving forward, …. at least he hasn't abandoned / quit writing, as many on Literotica and SOL have done over the years, … now that would be a tragedy, … just a thought, ... --- so, we can count our blessing, and wish Tef and his family good health, right? ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.122: Oh, and Craig, if you are stuck for more good reading and haven't already found these wonderful tales, ... (try them first on their free sites), ... --- I recommend C.H. Darkstriders' the Prometheus Project, it is an awesome story that reminds me a lot of TSM, but in many ways it is better, .... -- And there's the fantastic writings of BurntRedstone, for free on Literotica.com, ... all his stories are incredible, ... but he has a few series that stand out, like the Jack Danner series, the Ben Shepherd series, the Satyr series, and the three-part Ed Walters series (she who understands) are among his best, ... -- Also, there is Antiproton's A Dragons Tale, and ADT comes out monthly right on schedule, if you can appreciate that, and he included a five-part free set of related chapters recently too, so, lots of bang for your buck, ... --- well, good luck and good reading, .... -- and there are many other wonderful writers of erotic fiction to sample out there, like Annabelle Hawthorne, ... she works herself like a dynamo, ...and if you like Horny Monster girls, hers is the place to visit, ... Piers Anthony likes her work, .... Also, she has hinted that she may try her hand at a Sci-Fi based story soon, .... and based on her 100 plus other well written chapters, it would be a good one, I feel, ... ;-) ttfn

Newnotsure

Michael56smith no one is complaining about the slowness of the story it is all the pre-paying of chapters people don’t like. I can wait months for a chapter heck I still have not read the latest because it is not completed as of yet I pay the money I am at lowest amount at this time. Can he get an extra health insurance so if he is sick he gets pay I am not sure on the cost but who knows. So just for the hell of it went on line and checked the England payroll tax Tefler pays about the tax rate as we do in Canada. So there goes your story on high tax rates. He can do this he needs to get motivated again he just has to spend the time getting story out of his head such a good story at that. Come on Tefler you can do this, if you do two full chapters you can make up the back log in no time and keep it going.

Anonymous

We have very similar tastes in stories it seems.. I have to thank you for turning me on to Burnt Redstone and I have now read both Danner and Shepard and currently enjoying Nuemann :) I've read (up to their current state) all the rest of the ones you mentioned but I would also like to point out one I think you missed to anyone who hasn't read RoustWriter's "Arlene and Jeff" is a incredible 4million word story!!

Anonymous

He is 4-5 months behind with his pre charges which were suppose to be a one time thing. Now it’s become a crutch. I don’t see him waiting that long to catch up before he is back to precharging yet again. He would have to post 2 chapters a month to slowly catch up. I don’t see that happening. It’s already the 6th and still nothing. This is suppose to be his job, and yet not doing his job. All kinds of things happen in life and yet people can still work and deal with other things in life. My Dad lives with me. Got his second shoulder replaced. Had cancer in the past, beat that. Had a stroke, beat that. Even with his current arm in a sling, can still do most things for himself. I can go to work. He manages to do what he needs to do. The excuses here are just getting dumb. What is next, he has a runny nose and getting snot all over and so can’t write? I just don’t get it. I had no problem with the first pre charge. The one time thing, even the second d time which I saw coming, now we’re 4-5 chapters behind which I knew was going to happen. I see that growing even more with future excuses.

Anonymous

You don’t believe that do you? This is his job. You think he can handle not being paid for 4-5 months to catch up? I doubt it. He is going to get even further behind with some more double pre charges. You wait and see. It’s now the 6th and still nothing.

Michael56Smith

.127: hmmm. you say it isn't the slowness in getting the next chapter(s), but it is the pre-paying that bothers you the most, .... So that should mean you are all excited that Tef announced that he has plans for no more placeholders, and he will try to soon catch up on the already paid for chapters, .... So, you are very happy now, right? No more complaints, right? Or are you the type to try and think up some new things to complain about? --- I also see that you do enjoy suggesting how Tef can write better and faster, .... I am looking forward to seeing Your very own stories appearing on erotic fiction sites, like Literotica.com and on Patreon too, put some of that good advice to use why don't you? ... Please let us all know your writer's pen name, .... thanks, ... Well, that's it for me tonight, ... be well, ... see ya later, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.128: OH YES!!!! I loved that extra-long and involved storyline, ... I have been hopeful that he'll pick it up again and give us the further adventures of the teleporting family pets, .... (and I was really into his character that was killing with a bow and arrow, then he was skinning all those extra-large saber-toothed kitty cats, all while living in a cave, ... a nice side story), .... -- and I got into his new story involving time-travel, .... but his health and especially his wife's health issues made him pause / stop writing for now, ... and he was such a very regular, once-a-week, chapter writer, like clockwork for years, ... too bad, I hope they both get better soon, ... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

Project Prometheus is a very good copy/homage of/to TSM, but nowhere near as good as this story imho.

Anonymous

I miss Tefler.

John Doe

Subjugation by Fel is quite great as well - similar genre (erotic sci fi) but goes deeper into the sci fi side later. James Falloway has other series out too on his website www.sennadar.com.

Michael56Smith

.134: one thing that I really like about Prometheus, is that their brilliant AI, which has duplicated herself and then she recruited two more VIs to upgrade, ... 'cause I really miss Faye, .... ;-) ttfn

Tipp McClure

"Next few days" just to finish half a chapter (rest of 164.) This isn't looking promising.

Michael56Smith

.136: .... you don't think Tef has returned to his EOM chapter drop ways again, do you? --- I just hope he remembers to drop a few chapters to the free sites, ... it has been an empty summer for those fans, .... ;-) ttfn

Keepit simple

Another one to read on Lit - The job offer by Ronin646. Just released chapter 9. Totally agree on missing Faye......

Anonymous

Is Recurve still around? I saw a RIP up above for her. Did I miss something a while back? I really enjoyed her addition to the TSM universe. I have not checked if there was an update any time recently. Life has gotten in the way of my reading enjoyment. :-(

Cignal

You guys seem not to be able to read between the lines. When Tefler announced above that he wouldn't be pre charging for chapters, meant that his has found an alternate source of income. So he is going back to writing part time. I don't know this for certain but it is my hunch. If that is true we will see less output from him as his main goal is to support his family, not the bunch of self centered entitled people here.

Michael56Smith

.142: yeah, without the 'payday' incentive, what's to keep him from taking a couple months off when he feels like it? ... it's a worry, ... -- I fear the rather noisy anti-placeholder crowd may have painted us into a corner, ... ;-) ttfn

Parzival

I think there’s 3 possibilities. 1) he’s gone and got a job 2) he’s come into some money possibly from an inheritance or 3) patreon has cracked down on placeholders. I also don’t think it’s the anti place holder crowd that have painted us into a corner but rather the crowd that said it’s fine Tef don’t listen to ANY disgruntled fan. A comment was made to Tef about a year ago when he was a half chapter behind explaining he would burn out and end up 5 chapters behind if he kept going like that. He was never getting any break because he was constantly behind. Instead of finishing a chapter and taking a week or so to rest and recharge he had the constant pressure of feeling like he had to catch up. But the boot lickers kept saying just do whatever Tef it’s ok we love you keep charging us and digging yourself deeper and deeper. Instead of helping Tef with some ‘tough love’ they encouraged him to dig his own grave. And now here we are. The writing has been on the wall for a long time and the people to blame are the ones trying to ingratiate themselves by saying please charge us and support your family. It’s a tough lesson to learn but I can only hope that Tef does learn it and is more willing to listen to people that were saying things he didn’t want to hear while still supporting him. He needs to lose whoever was advising him and get some better support and help around himself.

Anonymous

So was Chapter 164 the last released as im not seeing any others?

Jim lynch

Writers block ? I’m wondering if writing such a long story like this is gets harder as time goes on I’d expect it would be. I’m impressed how tefler has chucked out chapter after chapter for all these years with no problems well it seems like no problems anyway. Just try keep it going tefler we all love this story/universe you’ve created from that great brain you have.

Cignal

Tefler has comments about this on Discord. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/991080529229148180 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/991080891075936306 https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/420266017218887681/962741106506874921

Michael56Smith

.149: Well, back on 31 July 2023 Tef dropped a little over 7K words of chapter #164, which when added to the preview 2K plus words he gave us after #163 was posted, which then brought the count for chapter #164 up to over 9K words or just shy of 10K words, ... so, about half a current chapter size, .... therefore, we are still awaiting the rest of #164, along with chapters #165, #166, #167 and #168, that waiting in the wings.... but he'll not be giving us place holders anymore, ... he said so, ... So, hang in there, you've not missed anything as yet, .... --- Tef has been suffering from a bad gallbladder, that needs an operation, and his wife broke her arm, and he has been stuck with driving the kids everywhere, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.150: yeah Jim, remember that information chart he posted about two or three years ago, .... I am sure he has come up with some other aids to help him to remember things in this epic (extremely long) story, ... -- I myself have filled up a notebook or two with various TSM facts and trivia, names and chapters, .... this method is only slightly easier to use than just perusing the chapters themselves, ... --- I believe it does help me with the spellings of some of the characters and / or planets / star system names, ... although I still need to buy a vowel now and then, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Well i had to renew my membership so paid again anyway. I was still owed three chapters when i left so was hoping they would all be done by now :(. Purchased the books on Amazon for support anyway. The extra chapters were a bonus though. so i havent missed anything..

Unresolved Plots

Not sure about any writers block Tefler may or may not have, but he does have many resources he can use if he is ever stuck. Not sure if other Patrons are aware, but Cignal, one of Teflers patrons who is a mod on the original Discord channel, creates the ship schematics for Tefler that are made available here on Patreon. Cignal has also helped Tefler in the past with story continuity, using a story timeline that he maintains up to date, which is available for free on the Tefler Discord, permanent invite here https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord. Not sure if Tefler uses this timeline himself, but I would not be surprised if he does, as it is very detailed. I have used it countless times to check a story fact, to find what chapter an obscure scene happened in etc... Cignal also has a spreadsheet with journey times to TSM universe destinations at different FTL speeds. Again I would not be surprised if Tefler uses it to keep correct travel time continuity in the story. There is also an extensive open plot points document on Discord, which is continually updated when a question is answered or a new story mystery comes to light. These story resources and more are available at the Discord link above

tony

new chapters will come when tefler releases them (2 weeks)tm

Anonymous

Can’t wait!!!!🤪

Michael56Smith

.157: It's time for Tefler Maniacs, and we're Zany to the Max, So, sit back and relax, You'll press F5 'til you Collapse, We're Tefler Man-i-acs! the Kool-Aid is still fermenting, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.158: ... if you keep putting out all those 'bad' vibrations, you'll bring down negative energy on us all, ... for shame! ... if you think you know how to do his job better, perhaps you should start your own story, .... SMH .... ;-) ttfn

Parzival

I’ve never once claimed to be a writer nor do I have any desire to try my hand at it. I specialise more in small business start ups, getting systems in place and working, figuring out target markets and income streams. Quite a bit of that would cross over. And in that regard alone have I added my opinion. I’ve never criticised his writing and don’t have any desire too as he’s one of my favourite authors and I enjoy the story immensely. I’m not sure what you mean by bad vibrations. Anyone can see it’s not going particularly well at this point I was just pointing out I think you are blaming the wrong people. The real villains here are the ones who enabled and encouraged him to dig himself into this hole (4-5 chapters behind). Tef compromised his integrity and now he’s the one that has to dig himself out and I think he needs different and better support and help to accomplish that. I’d love to see him succeed at it as I’d like to read not only the end of this, but whatever else he had to write.

Michael56Smith

.160: Ahh Parzival, now it's clearer, you do business start-ups and you are a Problem Solver, .... so that means that you tend to approach many things that way, as a problem to be solved, ... I am just trying to tell you that Tef and his writing genius just might not respond well to your Problem Solving suggestions, ... -- so, please just relax a bit, Tef will work out his own problems, let him learn, .... just my thoughts on it, .... --- I hope you are having a fine summer, ... -- P.S: you might want to reconsider writing, possibly in your retirement years, .... just no incredibly long epics like TSM, keep your stories under a million words, ... just a suggestion, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith (edited)

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2023-09-10 19:38:42 .161: .... Ohh, it's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, .... there's balogna in our slacks, .... we're Tefler Man-i-acs! --- we're Totally Insane-y, .... ---- It rains in Spain-y, .... ----- Pinky and the Brainy, ..... --- Andromeda Strain-y, ..... --- Citizen Kane-y, .... ---- miss- cell any, .... ---- where's Lon Chane-y, .... ---- Eisenhower, Mamie, .... --- Chicken Chow Mein-y, .... --- Money Down the Drain-y, .... -- Dana Delaney, .... ---- No Pain, No Gain-y, .... --- Hydro-plane-y, ..... ---- Penny Lane-y, .... --- Tarzan and Jane-y, ..... ---- meet Mark Twain-y, ..... ---- have no shame-y, .... --- Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, .... ---- Fraiser Craine-y, .... ---- Lake Champlain-y, ..... ---- High Octan-y, ..... ---- Public Domain-y, .... ---- candy cane-y, ..... ---- Bangor Maine-y, .. . ---- bowling lane-y, ..... --- Shania Twain-y, .... --- Hurricane-y, .... ----- Presidential Campain-y, ... ----- Quiche Lorraine-y, .... -- and those are the Facts! .... ;-) ttfn
2023-09-10 17:19:50 .161: .... Ohh, ... it's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, ... -- We've got wisecracks by the stacks, ... .... there's bologna in our slacks, ... --- the Writer's flipped, we have no Script, .... ..... why bother to Rehearse? .... .... We're Tefler Man-i-acs! --- we're Totally Insane-y, .... ---- It rains in Spain-y, .... ----- Pinky and the Brainy, ..... --- Andromeda Strain-y, ..... --- Citizen Kane-y, .... ---- miss- cell any, .... ---- where's Lon Chane-y, .... ---- Eisenhower, Mamie, .... --- Chicken Chow Mein-y, .... --- Money Down the Drain-y, .... -- Dana Delaney, .... ---- No Pain, No Gain-y, .... --- Hydro-plane-y, ..... ---- Penny Lane-y, .... --- Tarzan and Jane-y, ..... ---- meet Mark Twain-y, ..... ---- have no shame-y, .... --- Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, .... ---- Fraiser Craine-y, .... ---- Lake Champlain-y, ..... ---- High Octan-y, ..... ---- Public Domain-y, .... ---- candy cane-y, ..... ---- Bangor Maine-y, .. . ---- bowling lane-y, ..... --- Shania Twain-y, .... --- Hurricane-y, .... ----- Presidential Campain-y, ... ----- Quiche Lorraine-y, .... -- and those are the Facts! .... ;-) ttfn

.161: .... Ohh, ... it's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, ... -- We've got wisecracks by the stacks, ... .... there's bologna in our slacks, ... --- the Writer's flipped, we have no Script, .... ..... why bother to Rehearse? .... .... We're Tefler Man-i-acs! --- we're Totally Insane-y, .... ---- It rains in Spain-y, .... ----- Pinky and the Brainy, ..... --- Andromeda Strain-y, ..... --- Citizen Kane-y, .... ---- miss- cell any, .... ---- where's Lon Chane-y, .... ---- Eisenhower, Mamie, .... --- Chicken Chow Mein-y, .... --- Money Down the Drain-y, .... -- Dana Delaney, .... ---- No Pain, No Gain-y, .... --- Hydro-plane-y, ..... ---- Penny Lane-y, .... --- Tarzan and Jane-y, ..... ---- meet Mark Twain-y, ..... ---- have no shame-y, .... --- Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, .... ---- Fraiser Craine-y, .... ---- Lake Champlain-y, ..... ---- High Octan-y, ..... ---- Public Domain-y, .... ---- candy cane-y, ..... ---- Bangor Maine-y, .. . ---- bowling lane-y, ..... --- Shania Twain-y, .... --- Hurricane-y, .... ----- Presidential Campain-y, ... ----- Quiche Lorraine-y, .... -- and those are the Facts! .... ;-) ttfn

Keepit simple

Think you are spot on Parz. Making a decision to take your passion and make it your career is a big step. Agree that Tef has dug himself into a hole with placeholders...and it has to be very stressful. Hope he takes your advice and adds some needed support to his life and gets re-centered. In my life, I throw myself into my career when tragic things happen. My belief is many of us relieve stress by reading stories like TSM to distract from craziness around us. If it takes three more months for Tef to get his MOJO back, so be it. Think there is so much more of this story to be written and enjoyed by us. Hope Tef gets back to enjoying writing it down as much as we enjoy reading it.

Parzival

MIchael I agree with you Tef doesn’t seem to want to hear it. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t need it though. Everyone needs support from time to time and especially once things get to a certain size if it’s not there the cracks really start to show. You were suggesting there was a problem, I simply responded with where I think the problem lies and how to fix it. We agree his writing is genius and both want to see him succeed. I can’t help but think with the write support around him, he could not only function better but do better financially and mentally. Keepit Simple I also throw myself into work I just think Tef is burnt out by the way he’s done it. Once he was half a chapter behind he lost any semblance of a rest period. The month would tick over but instead of being able to relax a bit he was having to finish a chapter and start another. It cascaded the problem and now I’d be surprised if he can do much of anything. I sincerely hope he has come into some money and can take a proper break and switch off for a bit

Anonymous

Tefler had a higher monthly output back when he was working than he had had so far in 2023.

tony

nice improve of the animaniacs theme song.........i like it

Jim lynch

Those few days are dragging on a bit now lol 😂 I’m sick of checking ten times a day

Michael56Smith

.170: ... however Jim, just like me, you continue to check, Tef has us all wanting more and ever more TSM, ... sigh, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.171: Hey Tefler Fan 007, the toilet bowel Kool-Aid is ready, .... 120-proof, and it is a bit of a fire hazard, so beware, .... ;-) ttfn ....

Michael56Smith

.175: LOL, .... yeah, .... " I don't always drink fiery Kool-Aide, but when I do, it's Burning Ring of Fire Kool Aide" ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

I worry the delays are costing Tef support. Hope he gets things rolling and regains some!

Tefler Fan 007

Tefler used to do this for fun and as a job. All the hateful comments has made it no fun and all work. I have a feeling we won’t be pre charged again but it will take awhile for the 4 chapters he owes. It also possible that he went from full time writing to part time and now has a 9-5 job to support his family. With people taking their support away only forced him to focus on supporting his family. My personal opinion is someone reported him to Patreon and they won’t let charge again until he is caught up and in the meantime he still has to support his family. We will be lucky if we get anything before Christmas.

Tefler Fan 007

Once Tefler gets caught up he should probably just go to the monthly Patreon payment plan so the money is regular whether he submits 10 chapters or none.

Anonymous

It wasn't his fanbase that forced him to give up his old job and made his hobby his new job. That was his call, and its sad to see how its fallen apart. In this regard Tefler seems to be like so many other Patreon creators I've spoken to in the past .... they have a creative idea .... its fun to do and Wow .. suddenly they are making money from it. Let's give up the old job and work from home! But then they seem to forget that this is actually their JOB now .... its not their hobby any more .... its what feeds their family and pays the bills. So they start to take it all for granted and the next thing they know the've alienated part of the group that financially supports them ... and that's the one thing they can never do. Lesson to the wise: if you are going to quit your job and make money from your hobby .... remember it will stop being a hobby. People will hold you to the same standards as your boss would have at work.

Keepit simple

Don't think many would buy into monthly charge with recent history of deadlines missed. The other writers I support with a monthly fee are consistent with monthly or weekly release. Kaizer Wolf I joined to read one of his stories and now I am prefer plot on second he posts. He alternates posting a chapter of each story weekly. They are not as long as a monthly posting but I can still remember previous chapter from two weeks ago. His weekly deadline is each Sunday night but we have been getting new chapter early each Saturday morning. He charges monthly charge and I am happy to pay it, as he fulfills his side. Others I get larger monthly release at end of month usually last Friday so not 31st.... Don't expect more than one release so again expectations met. Haven't had years of experience on Pateon with Tef like others so only can assess him based upon past two years experience. Love the story which is why I am here and why I freely agreed to pay to support him writing more of it. If Tef decides to be a dentist during the day (lord knows the UK needs more of those) and I only get a big chapter a couple times a year, fine. I want more but not demanding the guy gets miserable or burnt out and stops forever. Burntredstone model where he shares for free and releases without a schedule, but allows us to purchase a copy later to support him works too. Noticed BR giving kudos to his wife for her love and support so he can write awesome stories for us to read. Wish Tef can find that support from those close to him...cause if he is coming to message board for support he will also see frustrations from some also. Hope Tef gets his MOJO back and we get to see Faye reborn for third date!!

Unresolved Plots

Andrew, so far as I know, Tefler has 4000+ patrons, around about the level it was when he started using placeholders, so I'd hardly say that it is falling apart! Giving unsolicited advice as if you are some sort of expert on self employed Patron's just makes you come across as pompous imho.

Unresolved Plots

I disagree Keepit simple. As has been pointed out by others in the past, Tefler using Placeholders for the last year was essentially the same as him having a monthly subscription and he still has 4000+ Patrons, so I think Tefler will do fine if he was to decide to switch to a monthly payment plan. As it stands though, everyone is just speculating. Let's just wait and see what Tefler does moving forward.

Rayce Royal

HUGE fan of Kaizer Wolf, especially his Combat Healer storyline. Joined Tefler first on Patreon, then Kaizer shortly after. Enjoy both writers very much, but I'm really "jonesing" for another chapter from TSM. Hell, I'd even settle for the last half of 164 :)

Unresolved Plots

Schools in the UK start back around now, if they haven't done so already. Hopefully this will mean Tefler has some free time on his hands to make headway to complete 164 and beyond.

Anonymous

Whatever UP. If Tefler was doing this for a living, and now apparently is NOT doing this for a living, then I'd say the idea of retiring and becoming an internet author has fallen apart. Perhaps you have some other explanation, if so I'd LOVE to hear it. I've spoken with about a dozen Patreon creators, and the successful ones ALWAYS told me the same thing ... no matter how much you love what you do, you must understand that this is now your job, no longer your hobby. You simply cannot treat it as a hobby and expect to be successful at it. Because there is always that week or that month when things go bad .... when the family falls ill or the roof caves in. Its in those months when you just have to buckle in and produce your creation, because there is no paid leave on the internet ... you produce or you don't get paid. At least, that's the way its supposed to work!

Michael56Smith

.187: Hmmm, .... do you think that we might just get one of those unexpected and unpredicted 'Tefler Twists' regarding his possible future payment plans? .... Our Tef just doesn't do things exactly like other writers, somewhat anyway, .... -- I really hope that he can get all caught very soon, .... to finish off chapter #164, then start dropping chapters #165 though #168, ... hoorah! ... ;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

It’s just annoying when you get an update saying a few days and over two weeks later no chapter and no more news/update I mean it takes a few lol minutes to give another update to say whatever is the problem. Come on tefler just keep us informed that’s all I’m asking.

Greg Hill

Don't get your hopes up for more material at the end of the month either, since there has been no new material since 04/23, which in itself wasn't a complete chapter. Recent history says nothing's upcoming, especially since each single placeholder had to be in range of $20,000 each(at least) x 5 or 6...good money if you can get it. The pocketbook should be well filled, allowing a period of grace before necessity kicks in again, and this last unfulfilled promise of completion of #164 "in a few days" shows that yet again...

Unresolved Plots

That's an easy answer Andrew. If Teflerfan007 is incorrect with his 'guess' that Tefler is no longer doing this for a living, then that makes your proclamation that it is 'falling apart' nonsense based on hearsay. I have seen 2 of Tefler's 4300+ Patron's make the guess that he is going back to writing part time, but you seem to take that as it is confirmed by Tefler! I'd hate to be on trial for something if you were in the jury, as you seem to be very easily swayed with little evidence! You also seem to be ignorant of the fact that Tefler is one of the the most successful of the thousands of authors on Patreon. So should he take 2nd hand advice from other authors coming via one of his Patron's, who claims to have talked to a dozen of them? Or should he just carry on as he has done in the years he been on Patreon, being that he is very successful at it? I know which one I'd go with! If you took the short amount of time that I've just done (2 minutes is all it took on Graphtreon) to research some facts about Tefler's Patreon account, you would know that since 1st August 2023 Tefler has gained more than 200 additional Patron's! The evidence seems to point to Tefler becoming more successful i.e. the opposite of what you are saying is happening. But feel free to continue giving your pompous advice on how Tefler can become a highly successful writer on Patreon!

Unresolved Plots

The last material to be updated was the first half of chapter 164 on 31st July. Did you miss this? Chapters 162 and 163 have also been posted since 04/23 too.

Anonymous

I know Tefler is an "end of the month" kinda guy, but it doesn't stop me from checking in every couple days and being disappointed. Bummer.

Greg Hill

Those were completions to unfinished chapters that had previously been done, prior to 04/23...there hasn't been anything new since then...that update in July was just that: an update for an unfinished chapter that evidently is still unfinished. That wasn't an attack on him those are the facts when looking back at this feed...

Michael carney

Where do you get $20,000 figure? The stats I've seen has only been 8k tops, with under 8k being the norm. So please give us your source. I personally hope that he has gone to a day job and writing has gone back to being a pleasure and not a job with a deadline.

Rayce Royal

Agreed. There are quite a few of us who have worn our our F5 buttons :)

Greg Hill

I got from it people who are constantly stating the fact that there are 4-5,000 Patreon supporters, and being as conservative as one could possibly be I assigned a value of 4 to 5 dollars per supporter PER MONTH, but I know with some it's a higher figure than that, and more than one charge per month, but there are fees and services I est. $20,000...could be little less, could be a little higher...

Michael56Smith

.197: Hi Greg, I too am thinking that your 'fudge factor' regards Tef's monthly Patreon income is rather skewed (upwards) as your numbers are many times any previous estimations, .... and while you did slightly mention taxes and fees, you rather glossed over how much they take in the UK, and it is significant, .... --- striving for some type of monetary envy against Tef is pretty petty and rather low, .... --- On one hand you guys claim that Tef's support is going down and that he is so hurting that he should be forced to do things 'your way', .... on the other hand, you bump up his numbers to make it look like he is ripping his fans off, ... SMH, ... '-l ttfn

Michael56Smith

.198: Oh, it's time for Tefler man-i-acs, ... and we're Zany to the Max, ... So, sit back and relax, ... You'll press F5 'til you collapse, ... We're Tefler man-i-acs! .... ;-) ttfn

Greg Hill

I bent over backwards to be as conservative as I could by only saying $5 per supporter, not ten, not 20 dollars! I ONLY said $5. The 5,000 supporters count come from people such as yourself...so how is that fudging numbers?...if there are 5,000 people ever single month at $5 per month then $20,000 was a very conservative estimate indeed... and no need to mention taxes everyone pays them, so that's a wash...even if you halve the 20 to 10 after taxes, getting $10,000 for 8 months of the year so far is still good money no doubt about it...but I'll stick with the $20,000 because it probably averages more than $5 per supporter...and sure it's your right to disagree with my comments, your comments are welcome here..

Anonymous

Alternatively, if you’d like to give Tefler free money, why not just send him some thru PayPal or something? I’m sure he could set that up if it isn’t yet. That way you get to give as much as you want and I get to pay for finished content as I want.

Bp Hlpt

@Greg, I'm afraid that your earnings estimate is a bit high and you're going to have to bend over backwards even further. You can see how much Tefler is earning on Graphtreon - https://graphtreon.com/creator/user?u=3814558. Instead of the $5+ per supporter that you guessed, it's actually less that $2, as @M56S stated. Then Patreon takes between 5% and 12% of creator earnings (plus a payment processing fee), plus taxes. If I remember right, I think Tefler has stated previously it averages about 15%, plus taxes. Still, yes, Tefler makes good money through Patreon, but nowhere near what you were attributing to him. I'm guessing the net is closer to $5k/mo, or less, possibly a lot less, depending on his tax bracket and SS or whatever the UK equivalent is, if he only charges for 1 chapter. If he can ever get back to producing 2-3 chapters a month, now we're talking decent money, but he hasn't done that in years.

Anonymous

Please prove me wrong Tefler, but stating that you will not add anymore placeholders, would suggest that you have found an alternative income stream (job), which means that TMS is low on your list of priorities, especially with children and health issues. Saying it will take you a couple of days to finish chapter 164, and still not posting it over half a month later, is evidence there of. I suspect that Tefler has left the building with nearly £20,000 of Patreons' money for the 4.5 chapters paid for but not delivered. Morally wrong, but what saddens me most, is the fact that we will not see the end of this phenomenal story. Please prove me wrong...

Anonymous

Good point. But I will give him the doubt benefit due to his illness. Continue to hold out hope.

Rayce Royal

Maybe, just maybe, he has finally had his surgery and is in recovery. I'm thinking it was going to be this month, but I cannot remember. Let's hope he gets well soon!

Unresolved Plots

You are incorrect about the chapters too Greg. They were not updates to previously done chapters, they were all new chapters posted that had previously been placeholders. Bit of advice, if you are going to argue a point it is best to check your facts before doing so, because nothing you have argued about figures or posted material is correct!

Greg Hill

Naaw Dude, he put a placeholder on those chapters much earlier in the year, once they're placed holed they're due then, and not 4 5 months later...so they aren't new chapters at all...But it does appear that I Was INCORRECT, as illustrated by the data of that link, about supporter fees incoming, and since I was incorrect ON THAT I apologize to Tefler himself for posting information that wasn't factual...@Bp Hlpt...thank you, I read your link...I would have never suspected that low of a level, I wonder why!

Unresolved Plots

'Once he puts a placeholder on they are due then', says who? A placeholder means he is paid in advance and when the chapter is posted there will be no additional charge. Nowhere does it say when the chapter should be posted once the placeholder has been posted, though obviously the sooner the better! But this is all irrelevant as you are in fact incorrect about the posts too Greg. You wrote "Those were completions to unfinished chapters that had previously been done, prior to 04/23...there hasn't been anything new since then...that update in July was just that: an update for an unfinished chapter that evidently is still unfinished." All this is factually incorrect. Chapters 162,163 and half of 164 have been posted since 04/23. Not one single word of these chapters had been posted prior to this date, so they were not completions to unfinished chapters as you state, they were new chapters (or part chapters in the case of 164) posted without a charge as they had already been paid for previously. But people don't need to take either of our words for it, they can simply scroll down the page to see who is correct, it takes a minute to check!

Greg Hill

Dude, I don't see things as you see them, you keep seeing the glasses as half full, but I disagree, I keep seeing the glasses as half empty, It's your right to call it as you see it and I'll call it as I see it. You see those as a new chapters I don't see them the same way. I see them as mothballed chapters 4-5 months late. And NO, I don't expect anything new at the end of this month either ...there's an ongoing pattern in full view, going back well over a year if one chooses to look, a pattern that is all too familiar in the US...but since there will be no more place holders we'll see what happens at the end of the month...I'll make it a point to interact with you again at that time.

dan davis

Tefler, I would not mind if you just went to a monthly fee, much like several other authors that I support do. This would eliminate any doubts about the pre charges that were necessary for your work and life.

Unresolved Plots

Whether chapters were posted or were not posted after 04/23 is not a subjective matter of opinion or the difference between seeing a glass as half full or empty, it is an either or answer and only one can be correct. 162 (on May 1st), 163 (on June 30th) and 164 part 1 (on July 1st,) were posted after 04/23, so I'm afraid I am right and you are wrong Greg, there is no debate about that, it is a fact which can be checked by simply scrolling down the page and checking the dates! You sound a bit like a politician who thinks they won an election, with the only issue for them being they received less votes than their opponent. That they believe they had more votes is irrelevant because a fact is a fact, they didn't. I'll repeat again, other people can easily decide which of us is right or wrong by scrolling down the page for a few seconds and checking the dates I posted above.

Anonymous

Anyone know any good books to read while I'm patiëntly waiting for the next Chapter. If you know anything where upgrading your spaceship is a big part of the story that would be really nice. ☺️

Cignal

There is a ton of suggestions on Tefler's Discord Reading Recommendations. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/413511567594749972

Michael56Smith

.212: Well Carmina, there are many, but I will recommend 3 or 4: #1) Radley's Home for Horny Monsters, by Annabelle Hawthorne, she's just wonderful, ... #2) A Dragon's Tall or ADT, by Antiproton, he is Very punctual with his monthly installments, .... #3) Any of author BurntRedstone's works, ... and he has several wonderful series as well a few 'one of' tales, ... My favorites of his series are -- the Jack Danner series, an alien / space adventure series, ... the Ben Shephard series, this one is a big fan favorite, .... the Ed Walters series, is just 3 installments and a crossover, but is a lovely tale, that starts with a romantic adventure titled 'One Who Understands', .... also, the Satyr series, his first dip into a magical story, is really good, .... and there are a few more, that are quite good, and he has a new Series that is off to a good start featuring Joseph Neumann, check it out, .... really ALL of his stories are worth reading, ... #4) *** C .H. Darkstrider, he has several series that he rotates through, ... I am really fond of his 'the Prometheus Project', this series is very similar to TSM, *** but with a few significant differences and twists, ... *** they began with a massive upgrade to a frigate class vessel and they are using that beast of a smaller ship (named the Darkstrider) to gather up the necessary materials to repair a huge mother of a Mother Ship ***, ... also, their AI is still alive, that's a big plus for me, .... -- You can check out the early chapters of all of these on free sites, like Literotica.com, then for 3 of them, continue on with Patreon if you get hooked, ... I hope you Enjoy at least one of these, ...good luck, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.214: One of my all-time favorite erotic fiction writers is Annabelle Hawthorne, of the Home for Horny Monsters fame, .... she also likes Tefs work, and when she began submitting her Horny Monster stories, late in August 2017, back when Tef was on his chapter #87 and was about to drop #88, ... and now the girl has almost caught up to Tefler, .... She has over 105 main line story chapters, plus she has 22 of one and 7 of another related side story chapters, ... so about 134 Horny Monster chapters, while Tef is currently stuck on his chapter #164, .... she has really narrowed his 87-chapter lead, ... and she'll likely pass him next year for sure, .... -- Anyway, Tef's story (TSM) is awesome, but Annabelle is one highly impressive writer (very awesome!!), ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Hmm last sign of live was 19days ago. Is he still alive? Maybe he forgot about the „Catch up August“ and switched it to „Catch up September“ ?

Unresolved Plots

Ingo in the past when Tefler said he will post something imminently and he didn't do so, it was because something unexpected had happened. I just hope that he and his family are all ok. Best case scenario is that his operation was brought forward and he was/is recovering from that and that he will get back to writing when his health is sufficiently improved.

Unresolved Plots

While patrons are waiting I'd recommend visiting https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord and searching through the spoilers section on there. You will find lots of discussions and ideas about what will happen in the upcoming chapters going back to last year, such as where will the final battle take place, how events will play out, who will die etc... I'd be surprised if you did not read at least one story theory there which you had not considered before. I think reading through and perhaps joining in discussions, if you are so inclined, could help keep some TSM readers entertained while they wait for the next update.

Michael56Smith

.218: Hey Ingo, did you miss the news about Tef's wife breaking her arm? He lost a very, very BIG chunk of his writing time, with his hauling the kids around and other errands and household jobs, .... and so, between his gallbladder and his spouses' bones taking months to heal completely, we might be looking at not getting all of those catch-up chapters until around November, .... sigh, ... ;-( ttfn

Anonymous

Well here is nothing written about his wife or any other problems he has, so i think a lot of people doesńt know about it. Not everyone is on discord or anywhere else of what is possible in commmuncation. A little line here where he is advertising,cashing and delivering would be enough to let his community know whats going on.

Anonymous

Just out of interest, did Tefler ever say that the 'catch up August' was going to be August 2023? Maybe he'll be all caught up August 2024 ... or 2025 ... or ..........

Unresolved Plots

Ingo. I think you misunderstood my post above. I am not claiming I or anyone on Discord has any more information than the Patrons here, quite the opposite in fact. As far as I am aware the last communication from Tefler was the original post to this comment thread, so I know as much as you do. I was merely recommending that people can join the Discord to discuss the story in depth (and to make use of all the extra resources, such as the up to date story timeline) with other fans and in so doing relieve the boredom while we all wait for the update. You can use this permanent invite https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord to join if you want.

Newnotsure

Well left that Discord site I have tried to get back but Apple has placed a block on it saying it is a not approved site I will try again take a screen shot and show you guys

Michael56Smith

.223: Ha-ha and LOL, ah yes Andrew, that's very valid point, kind of mean, but thanks to Tef's recent problems, it is very much on point, .... --- Get well soon Tef, and best wishes for your wife's bones to heal quickly and well, .... none of us want you guys to have any complications, ... sigh, .... --- you do recall, Andrew, that his wife (pre broken arm bone) was taking the kids camping and giving Tef lots of August 'free time' to be creative in, ... too bad her broken arm cut that time short (possibly very short?) ... but now with the kids back in school, he should have a little time, to at least to finish chapter #164 this month, (fingers crossed) ... ;-) ttfn

Dan

Hey Tefler, just wanted to post a thank you and I am excited to see your next post.

Jim lynch

It would take a min at most to just post an update saying off for operation but yet again no word from the thief

Anonymous

After over 160 chapters published you realy think enyone would setle for 20k ? Please give the guy a break.

Anonymous

Firstly, I am glad you didn't write TMS as your spelling is atrocious. Secondly, he didn't write 160 chapters for £20k, that is just the 4.5 chapters he has not written. Have a break... you obviously need it.

Michael56Smith

.229: ... and the maniacal song re-commences: (it's September in 2023) It's time for Tefler Man-i-acs, ... and we're Zany to the Max, ... So, sit back and relax, ... You'll press F5 'til you collapse, ... We're Tefler Maniacs! We've got wise cracks by the Stacks, ... .... there's baloney in our slacks, ... we're totally insane y, ... it rains in Spain-y, ... money down the drain-y, ... Andromida Strain-y, .... Cock a Mamie, ... Tarzan and Janey, ... Have no Shame-y, ... Hunchback of Notre Dame-y, ... and here are some facts! -- We're Tefler Man-i-acs! ;-) ttfn

MVFast

I’ve not read the spoilers on Discord. I will add this. I wonder… As most (all longtimers) are aware, when Tefler is able and the Muse strikes he can write, and write, and write! We might soon be (pleasantly) slammed with text soon. The last chapter seemed long enough for him to add only a little more to bring it to a logical stopping point prior to the showdown and the re-animation of Faye. You can argue it’s already there. There could be more progenitor technology discoveries on the throne world. That with Faye and the collective could be a chapter all on its own. Plus, they still need to build a ship more capable than the progenitor’s ship. Tef, I hope I didn’t steal any of your thunder!

Anonymous

EXCITING CONVERSATIONS!!! INTERESTING DEBATES!!! LOTS OF PHOTOS OF REDHEADS!!! Coming to a Discord near you, "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum". https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

Michael56Smith

.232: Visit 'Admiral' Anthony Kester's Discord site: -- EXCITING CONVERSATIONS!!! INTERESTING DEBATES!!! LOTS OF PHOTOS OF REDHEADS!!! Coming to a Discord near you, "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum". https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM "Full speed Ahead!" ... ;-) ttfn

Keepit simple

Hoping to hear from Tef by midnight 9/30. Thankful to posts recommending other stories to read and authors to follow while waiting. Suggest downloading Demihuman interactive story from Googleplay...if you have Android. Story and plot by Kaizer Wolf.

Anonymous

I left the discord site as I did not want to bother verifying my patron status for the moderators and providing proof of my age as it was noted by discord as adult only.

Anonymous

Come check out the "other" TSM discord....None of that crap about status, or overburdening mods... https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM

Rayce Royal

(Rolling on the floor throwing a childish tantrum) I WANT MY TSM!!!!

Anonymous

Rayce I am on my 7th read through ... I just go back through the whole thing while we wait on Tefler finish the next chapter

Michael56Smith

hey michael, I've re-read all of TSM 5 or 6 times also, and a few sections more than that, ... so now I am re-reading my favorite BurntRedstone installments, ... lots of fun, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Tantrums, rolling on the floor, and holding your breath until you turn blue in the face, .... now why don't those sure-fire parent manipulation processes work anymore? Are they not a strong enough statement? Maybe having more patience and having other things to read could help, .... perhaps, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Done this before, I even combined most of the patreon released chapters into onto one file.

Unresolved Plots

Ditto, except its multiple times a day for me!!

MVFast

Soon! Soon! I know he usually drops new chapters near the end of the month. Is it usually the last week, the last few days, or the LAST day of the month?

Michael56Smith

Sorry, but for now, there will be no more placeholders, so Tef has no more payday deadlines, ... and without any 'no later than' timeframe imposed on the next chapters, except for 'he's working on them', when we get them is up in the air, .... sigh, .... I sort of liked the placeholders, at least we got something regularly, even if it was just an update, ... -- the second half of chapter #164 and chapters #165, #166, 167, and #168 are presently in a Tefler Limbo, ... we'll get them, ... but when? ... ;-) ttfn

bjcreek

There is absolutely no reason for Tefler to drop anything at any particular time of the month until he's caught up on back chapters. Not if he isn't doing placeholders any more. It seems to me like he does have another job, doesn't need the income from here any more, and is so drained out on TSM that he's pushing everything off as long as he feels like he can. I would not be surprised if these last few chapters we are owed turned out to be the last of TSM. The chapters where he winds everything up. I don't think he gets any personal pleasure from writing the story any more, and after all, he's been working on it for a long time. A very long time. I hope I'm wrong. But I think all of that is a definite possibility.

Michael56Smith

yeah, without the need to get in a chapter (or a placeholder) before month's end to receive a paycheck, Tef has no set time frame to finish off any chapters, ... this does worry me, .... I hope he can pull it off and he completes his 'owed' chapters in a timely manner, ... but nothing really requires him to do so, ..... that was one reason that I liked his use of placeholders, it provided a connection and a timeframe, .... anyway, he still may tend to drop chapters and updates at months end (from habit), ... my fingers are crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Oh yeah, I think that you are quite right, ... Good ole Tef began TSM back in December of 2015, and it is now over 163 installments later, he might be getting tired of TSM, ... However, I feel that it is all the various complainers about placeholders that may have inadvertently caused us a potential TSM delivery problem, .... -- and if (to provide his family support) Tef has gone back to a M-F, 9 to 5 type job, will TSM suffer? ... ;-) ttfn

DemonHunterCole

Since you are bored and probably just hitting f5 randomly, do you remember the song that was previously written over a year ago. Was it to this tune? I don’t think it was these lyrics, but could have been to animanics tune.

bjcreek

He wrote before with a regular job at the same time, so I'm not sure about that, at all. I suppose it all depends on how much he enjoys carrying on, and there's no way to know. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks for the reply.

Keepit simple

Only thing for sure is another chapter of ADT dropping before month end....a chapter this weekend from KW...and praying for part 3 from BR. If Tef comes through with more, gonna be icing on top!

Anonymous

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Anonymous

As I did, and I noticed the evolution of the quality of writing improving afther chapter 20,

Newnotsure

Okay here is my thought on this one "However, I feel that it is all the various complainers about placeholders that may have inadvertently caused us a potential TSM delivery problem, .... " quotes from Michael Tef has been falling behind for some time he had collected the placeholders says he will get it done each month he has not for what ever reason so he has been behind, do I like the place holders not really but stay here hoping to see the next chapters that are behind so please don't put the blame on those others that stated their options on there thoughts just you state all of yours Tefler get them done when you can take the time you need to get it back but please remember the promise you made that you will catch up. Darn In do love the story get well get better. If you want give us so many pages three times a week till.you get caught up if that is better for you at this time just a thought okay Michael I am ready I have big shoulders and tall I can Take it lol

Anonymous

You know what I wouldn't mind if he took a break from tsm if that's what he needs. I think tef would be open about having a job but if he had it could be a good thing too. I always have a lot more inspiration and good ideas at work then just chilling at home.

Anonymous

So the next few days to release the current chapter he was working on, which is this whole topic has turned into almost another month and counting. So about 2 months of nothing new. Saying nothing about a delay which would take a minute to do. Dropped off to somewhere. I can only assume he is dead or is now working some other job leaving everyone here clueless.

Josh

Tef might have been optimistic about his gallstones/bladder recovery - my boss is dealing with this right now and he expects to be out 2-3 months easy.

Unresolved Plots

The main reason proof of patron status is asked for is so that non-patreon readers do not join and get TSM spoilers beyond chapter 145. Surprised that the other Discord doesn't have this same measure in place to protect Tefler's work?

Unresolved Plots

Recently it has been the last day, but he has dropped chapters earlier in the past, like in December 2022 for instance.

Michael56Smith

hey there Joe, you seem to be placing a lot of faith in Tef's end of month habit, .... but without a payday incentive and a gallbladder operation (still pending?) tying up his time, will he drop anything for us upon this end of month? I am really starting to miss his placeholder days already, ... -- I hope that at EOM he at least drops us an update / status report, .... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

has anyone heard if he has gone under the knife yet? Or is that operation still in scheduling limbo? -- no new status updates since he wished us all well at the end of August, ... ;-) ttfn

MVFast

I just hope he’s okay.

Anonymous

Well he said a few days. That turned into a month with no update.

Anonymous

Maybe it will happen in October this year?!? We wońt give up hope until …. maybe November….

Michael56Smith

oh yeah, ADT #52 was very good, and the mighty Thor Kitten was so helpful when he purred, cuddled and napped to keep a young man from depression, lovely, ... -- now, we need BR to come through with Walking Thru, part 3, ... as it is needed before he can give us the next Jack Danner installment, (part 3 should tie up a Danner series loose end or two), ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

I am sorry to say, NewNotSure, ... but your typos, wrong words and jumbled thoughts almost obscured your ideas, but a good bit of your bashing and a little of your hating did come through, .... -- I liked Carmina burana123's thoughts about, If Tef needs a TSM writing break, he should take one, ... I just hope he then returns, refreshed and ready to finish this Epic, it would really be sad if he did not, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

yeah, he did, and he has done exactly that before too, .... so, not much of a surprise, ... :-) ttfn

Anonymous

I’ve had to get my gall bladder removed. It’s not the end of the world. It took me a couple weeks to recover and get back to work. Real work on cars outside. Another person at work recovered in like 3 days. Really, though, it’s mostly boredom recovering. If I was a writer, that wouldn’t have been as issue as I would just be sitting there anyway. I remember one day, I was in pain, but still working on getting coil springs in an old mustang. At the time thinking I had a bad case of heartburn. Found out what it was, had surgery scheduled, I couldn’t take it anymore and went to the Emergancy room and it was done that day. That was like 20 years ago. Still have some of the effects of not having a gallbladder. Being able to just sit and write, shouldn’t be a big deal. To me, sounds like another weak excuse. If you don’t want to write, ok. Wouldn’t be the first time a writer just disappears in the middle of a story.

MVFast

He wasn’t able to sit and write. His wife got hurt (broken arm?). He’s taking care of the kids and I assume most everything else. He didn’t say how bad the break was, nor if that was the only harm.

Anonymous

M56S, have you ever considered that it was the brown-nosed fanboi's like yourself that caused all these problems? Tef starts finding it difficult to meet deadlines, so begins dropping half chapters and previews to keep the cash rolling in. There's no adverse reaction from his readers, so he takes it as given that he can do what he likes without complaints. Then he manages to dig himself a hole so deep that he cannot get out of it. And the result is that his readers, the only people in this whole episode that are blameless .... the readers that kept feeding him cash month after month when promise after promise was not kept ..... THOSE are the people that you call haters and bashers. Fuck you!

Anonymous

I hope I am wrong but I think that chapter 164 will be the last chapter we will ever see, I'm assuming tefler lost interest or is hampered by a writers block which can take forever and 3 days. But it would be nice to inform his fans about it, and stop with excuses nobody believes anymore!

Tefler Fan 007

There was once a time when Tefler took 60-120 days between chapters. He then shortened the chapters so he could drop 1 a month. Individuals got spoiled and now will have to wait again. We may or may not get anything tomorrow but definitely by Christmas 🎅

Tefler Fan 007

Plus he is not pre charging anymore so he will at least write the 4 chapters that are owed. Probably get them all by May of 2024. Then he will start charging if he decides to or not. Besides the 4 chapters he owes us nothing and can stop and start again anytime he wants.

Unresolved Plots

It only takes scrolling down this page a split second to read Tefler's 168 placeholder post to see that your speculations are factually incorrect. Tefler wrote in that post:- "The next couple of chapters are all planned out by scenes, I just need a clear run of not being hospitalised with gallstone complications to actually complete them" So we should get at least the rest of 164 and 165, which are completely planned out according to Tefler, who says he just needs the time and health to be able to commit them to paper.

Negative Energy

Tefler, you still alive buddy? Gallstones didn't do you in, did they?

Keepit simple

Socialized medicine for non wealthy individual should be enough said....yikes! Hope we are all surprised tomorrow at midnight for a chapter from a recovering Tef

stephen mincher

I remember Tefler needing to earn £1500+ to go full time writing. That figure has has been well exceeded since before I joined. I would think it would be tricky getting that high a paying job(especially after 3 years of blah) so I reckon he is pushing to get the next chapters out soonest(still needs to plan and write 167+168) so we might get 2 1/2

Michael56Smith

Stephen not only can do math, but he can think too, ... Kudos Stephen, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

I am sorry to tell you Braveheart ole buddy, but TF007 is correct, Tef has taken extended writing breaks in the past, ... and with no chapters currently set-up to bring in income for him until after he catches up on his placeholders, ,,, and with his wife not at 100%, and his own Gallbladder problems, ... why not take a few months off? It would be nice if he does decide a break is needed, that he will hopefully pass the info on to us, I hate that wild-ass guessing, ... And then that Tef will come back all recharged and ready for much more TSM, ... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

i'm still four chapters behind and purchased the released books. came back online to see if we had been caught up.

Anonymous

He is not allowed to placeholders anymore read the complete updated patreon rules & regulations

Anonymous

needs to hurry up been watin all day prob be like 6 to 9 tonight

Michael56Smith

.... with no payday deadline incentive, we are mostly 'just' counting on his EOM publishing habit, ... and depending on his own health and his family's, that 'just habit' may not apply for a time, ... -- I do hope that he will update us, so we know when to expect some more yummy TSM, .... ;-) ttfn

Kensyi

So with Starfield being out, who has made the Invictus?

Anonymous

12 hours for what? Hearing yet another sappy excuse? I can't wait to hear all about the next trajedy to befall some member of his family. Maybe he'll tell us a bit more about his poor ailing gall bladder. Mine gave me indegestion one night, and it was removed the very next day. Don't get too excited.

Michael56Smith

huh? Who or what is Starfield? ... does Starfield equate to Tefler? confused, .... or is it who designed and built the Invictus on Olympus? ... ;-) ttfn

Unctadsk

Last 1 hour... keeping fingers crossed.... F5..F5...F5....

Anonymous

you know the turnover is based on the pacific time zone, right?

Anonymous

We've not had any updates since last month and no new chapters since June. Any word on when we'll be seeing new content?

Michael56Smith

Ahh, thank you Kensyi, now your sentence makes sense to me, ... before it was not something I understood at all, ... thanks for nudging my two remaining brain cells together, .... ;-) ttfn

Jedi Khan

Well, Tefler's usual posting time missed. Only an hour and a half until the Patreon billing deadline. I doubt we'll hear anything from Tefler for awhile.

Michael56Smith

I am afraid that we are not getting any EOM chapters or Updates tonight, ... sigh, .... oh well, we'll just wait for whenever Tef feels like it, ... -- with no placeholders, and therefore no deadlines for a payday, we have no way of knowing when or if an Author (Tef) is going to drop any new material for us to read, ... -- I hope that Tef and his family get better soon, and that he gets some refreshing 'change of pace' time, that allows him to come back to writing TSM strong and ready, ...my fingers are still crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Yes sadly I think this grand epic maybe fading into the sunset sunset... Maybe the huge scope of this epic... has just overwhelmed Telfar

Anonymous

But the saddest part is if he just disappears and does not have the curtesy to let us who have supported him know

Anonymous

I fear you may be correct, Keith. No communication for a month and that was after "Catch up August" (as stated by Tefler from two months ago). I don't mind waiting for new chapters but the silence from Tefler is quite annoying.

MVFast

01:25 AM on October 1st, 2023 USA pacific standard time…

Newnotsure

I don’t mind the wait he does a chapter when he is ready, I did not like the pre charging but lived with it. It is the lack of information that I have a hard time with

Anonymous

From what people are saying it looks like we all paid for 4 ½ chapters that are unlikely to arrive. Oh well, live and learn! Being a pensioner, I guess I will have to be more careful in the future

Anonymous

So I am about to cancel. How do you go about getting your prepaid money back? I will wait a year and rejoin. Other writers produce enough to cover me until then.

Jedi Khan

I don't suppose you've considered the possibility that he isn't able to provide the communication you're looking for, like for instance he's bedridden, hospitalized, or (heaven forbid) dead? Those rather bleak options rarely allow someone to communicate to others of their condition, especially ahead of time. He's already informed us that his health is in the gutter and that the national healthcare system isn't exactly rushing to alleviate his suffering. The only thing we can do is wait.

Anonymous

Reminds me of 4 years ago when Kid Wigger kept putting excuses in his blog of why "Flight of the Code Monkey" chapters where not coming until his blog ended a couple of months later and there were no more chapters. I still miss Code Monkey too.

Anonymous

well, It ain't like he lives alone I'm sure his spouse could relay that information to Patreon and through them us or just hear it from her directly in that situation. I just think the dude is slacking and went back to no update means no post which he does and has done quite frequently.

Anonymous

What? No pithy comment? Situational reality finally slapped you? I am sad about his health, but I also agree he should have had a surrogate, like one of his proofreaders, give us an update. I too am retired and wonder what's going on.

MVFast

Call me optimistic. Hopefully, we’ll see something in the next few days.

Keepit simple

To restate the obvious, to me, rarely have I seen a long-term successful business be one person. Tef has developed a loyal customer base for a product we all are willing to pay to read. Think placeholders were something, if I had been his financial advisor, which being one in real world I get asked about constantly, I would have advised against. Maybe for a single month due to tragic life event, but just like any other type of debt, the worse it gets the more stress it creates. My hope is Tef is getting his house in order and ignoring us all to get caught up on debts. Tef needs a Faye and so do all of us!

Anonymous

It's not like he's been dropping new content when he drops an end of month placeholder. This whole year has basically been Tefler seeing just how far behind he can get.

whyme943

Hope things go well.

Anonymous

Color me grumpy :<

Anonymous

Inactive and incomplete

Anonymous

I respectfully disagree, we have paid for chapters not written to pay for his roof, to pay for other things that are important to Tefler, but when you do not come through on your promises, you lose something more important, trust. Anyone still trusting Tefler, I have a bridge to sell you. To catch up on debts he has to produce more than what he already owes us and have already paid for. Ignoring people who pay you is never a good idea. The last post in August was that he was a "few days" from completing the chapter. 30 days is not a few days. The lack of any update is also not surprising, Tefler has ALWAYS waited until payday to tell people that the chapter is not coming, frequently based on things in his own words have been happening for many days or weeks. So it is not a surprise he is not going to earn his pay. He just does not want to take the chance of running people off until he collects his "due". I went from a higher tier to the lowest when we reached 4 owed chapters. For someone who wants to "make a living on this" he is cutting his own throat. I suspect he still has a real job, and this is an added monthly bonus. I did notice that we were not charged this month. I subscribe to a few others so did not notice right away. Don't get me wrong, I love the story, hence why I supported him for over four years. When you add up the amount I have paid and compared it to the amount written, I have paid for about 1.5 novels of a GRRM size story, but paid well over the cost of the first 5 books of GRRM leather bound as available on Amazon today, about 6 times doing the math and giving Tefler the benefit of the doubt. From June of 2019 to the next time I am charged, with reducing my pledge level just before the last payment.

Michael56Smith

I suspect that if Tef is not just recovering from UK healthcare, then I hope that he is likely just relaxing in relief from not needing to, at the last minute, finish off a chapter during the tail-end of a month, ... phew, it must be a big relief from his self-imposed stress for him, and this would be for the first time in many months, ... -- Yeah, yeah, I know many of his fans have passed on their thoughts as to how he should conduct his creative work more efficiently, but Tef keep on with his more stressful ways, ... I'd bet that this EOM was his first breather in a long while, ... (hope you've enjoyed it Tef). -- I am also hopeful that sometime during this new month, Tef will provide us with a status update on the TSM story, and for his own health, ... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Dave, it seems that you are ASSUMING that Tef has stopped/abandoned the TSM story, after over 4 million words and about 8 1/2 years of very creative writing, ... and while it's a possibility that TSM has been discontinued, I will wait for M. Tefler to say so, thank you, ... -- If it is a break or a breather that he needs, he is welcome to it, ... but please do not end the series, ... '-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

yeah, something, .... an status update or the second part of chapter #164 would be so nice, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Why am I not surprised, still nothing and can’t even bother to say anything! It’s getting to the point of can’t even remember where we left off, it’s been months. He took about 5 chapters worth of money ahead of time for thin air. A few days for a chapter were his only words which has turned into yet another month. Can’t even be bothered to say anything which takes very little effort. Looks to be another story going up in smoke. I don’t know how someone who writes for a living can’t write anything? How about, I decided to take a couple months off from writing? That takes almost zero effort. I just don’t get it. I knew this was going to happen with this whole placeholder thing. A 1 time thing was being used again and again as he got himself into a big hole because of that. Everyone should get a refund from services not provided.

Anonymous

I'm calling it. Tefler is dead. RIP.

Anonymous

It’s a real shame how Tefler has mismanaged his work. Most authors would love to be in his position with a popular series and readers willing to give them money for the next episode. Writer’s block is a thing, but not even writing the occasional status update about what is going on smacks of disrespect to his loyal readers.

Michael56Smith

Some possible valid excuses for our wonderful TSM series author: in the UK, healthcare scheduling problems for Tef and his problem gallbladder, ... his wife and kids, wife will have many more weeks in a cast from her broken arm, but she should be able to do more by now, ... Tef did lose his father early this year, ... he may still be a bit down from that, ... making it harder to write, ... I hope that's enough, and it is just good news for Tef and family from now on, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Oh, and on a very positive note, BurtRedstone dropped "Walking an Endless Path, part 3" on 10/01/2-23, .... a very good read, ... enjoy, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Reading it as I type...if that is possible...you might also try Gruinard on SOL "Leading Two Lives"...twelve books...excellent story

stephen mincher

Tefler sure knows how to cause angst (in & out of the story)

MVFast

I was surprised when I figured out Tef reads American westerns. At Valia Gate, with the Karron survivors; "The name's Marshal Pete Coburn and I want you to work for me as my deputy." 🙂

Anonymous

Time to reread the entire TSM series again. If no new chapters are available when I finish it in 6 weeks, I'll call it quits on this one.

Jim lynch

I’m thinking writers block now way too long whilst still taking

Jim lynch

Uk healthcare ? At least we get health care all you get is d o d spending 750 billion on how to kill not how to heal

Jim lynch

How will he manage to pay everyone back all he owes at my reckoning it will be about £30,000 by now at least.

Anonymous

" I am also hopeful that sometime during this new month, Tef will provide us with a status update on the TSM story, and for his own health" - and I suppose, as always, you would believe a single word he wrote about his current situation, right? I used to be a huge supporter of Tefler, but his actions over the past year have been fraud, plain and simple. He suckered his loyal readers time and again. Can you name a single promise he has kept over the past 12 months? 'Catch up August' became 'No show September', very quickly, and yet fools like M56S still try to paint a rosy picture of the future of TSM. Are you getting a cut of his ill-gotten gains M56S?

Newnotsure

.1008:,,,,,, Started to reread the TSM again on chapter 47

Anonymous

Is this thing done?

MVFast

No. I see there are several frustrated people though. Unfortunately, writers can’t write as fast as we can read! Unless something has happened to Tefler, I’m confident he’ll finish 164, and at least publish 165 to 168. Personally, I expect more, but don’t know. My personal guess is there’s another twenty chapters, but time will tell. Note that many of these “chapters” are long. Three chapters from Tef can be as long as a book from others.

Michael56Smith

I too Highly recommend a full re-reading of TSM, I love those early chapters, even though they are so dated now, .... You will have many more happy reading hours ahead of you, enjoy! ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

We all should let our Tef relax, destress, heal, ... and just recover from one heck of a year, so far, ... You know that a refreshed and recharged Tefler might just write some truly awesome stuff, .... -- Will chapters #164b and #165 through #168 be quickly addressed? -- And with all of the incredible tech and gear from the Grand Engineering Overlord, the powerful leadership from the Kythvinadhys, along with the cunning and planning of Captain Fernandez and company, ... our Tef can properly advance his TSM epic tale for us to enjoy, ... (Halleluiah! and pass the biscuits please), .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

It's been more than three months since Tefler finished a chapter. The one he's supposedly finishing is five months late. He still owes us four chapters after that. And he hasn't even bothered to say anything to us for over two months now... this is how you get your Patreon followers to all file fraud complaints against you.

Evan

I agree with those that are relaxing about this. Look, Tefler has stated that he’s not going to be pre-charging anymore. He will hopefully get chapter 164 finished relatively soon, then create chapters 165 through 168, and then he’ll hopefully be able to make a good living by writing again while taking time to actually live. It’s only been just over a month (August 31st) since Tefler wrote this last post which I”m commenting on, so let’s not panic and bewail not hearing from Tefler, just yet. Again, hopefully, all is well with Tefler and his family and we’ll hear from him soon.

Anonymous

Well, I would stay away from these hateful and respectless bunch who are complaining simply about everything, too. Not all of course. But it is a thing that bringing you down affects you more than the ones with the glass half full

Unresolved Plots

To those who say Tefler has writers block, you might be correct, but not for the second part of chapter 164 or 165, which Tefler has stated previously are both already planned out by scene. What we are waiting for with those is Tefler being well enough to commit them to paper, with these chapters likely being the resolution of the war with Gahl'kalgor. Tefler has laid lots of breadcrumbs for the subsequent chapters (Visiting the Star Forges, which could be a whole chapter on its own, freeing the Abandoned in Brimorian Space, Tom Walker's trial which we know from Tefler ties in to a specific point in the upcoming story etc...), so I think it is unlikely that he has writers block. It is more likely that he hasn't been well enough to write imo. I do not have experience of gall stones, but from some posts people with experience have made here, it seems that gall stones can be very debilitating and that Tefler has probably underestimated the effects on his writing in his most recent posts, especially if he has been looking after his kids as their primary carer, whilst his wife is laid up with a broken arm. It is also possible that since his last post he has had and been recovering from the operation to remove his gall bladder, that was postponed previously. I'm hoping it is the latter reason and that Tefler is now recovering back to full health. Once he is well again and reinvigorated, I suspect that we will see a relatively quick turnaround and acceleration in the chapter posts, compared to the last couple of years in which Tefler has been affected by this health issue.

Anonymous

I stiil hope you are right and Tefler will continue.. and still hoping for just a tiny reaction about status.... but i am loosing hope.

Greg Hill

Are you guys on the payroll too?

Newnotsure

..1009:…… I think we are all going to shit when Tefler sends a message

Anonymous

It's egregious that the writer has taken several payments this year without providing the end product. I understand real life can happen but to not have any sort of communication is a slap in the face on top of it. Get your shit together Tef.

Puttanegra Ficondo

Well, all good things are bound to end. I just hoped TSM would end in a higher note rather than in a whimper, collapsing under the sheer weight of the world it brought to life. Thank you, Tef. Even if we are done, you brought us to amazing places. And if I am just pessimistic, I will be here waiting anyway.

Sceptre

It's interesting how the symptoms present in such varied ways; TSM addicts Jones'ing for another hit I mean. Just hang in there throw away. If that 5 dollars is wreaking havoc in your finances let us know, I'm sure there are several here with a few bucks to send your way.

Anonymous

Alas, poor Tefler! I knew him, TSMers: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen? Now get you to my lady’s chamber, and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must come; make her laugh at that.

Michael56Smith

Alright guys (and gals), it Might actually be the end of TSM, ... But we are just guessing for now, .... I believe Tef's most recent communication was back at the end of August, saying that he'd not press us for any more placeholders, ... So, it is just too early to mark R.I.P. on Tef's epic, ... We expect some delays due to his own health issues, and due to his wife's broken arm (late July/early August), and with the increased needs for him to help around the house and to chauffer the kids about from their various interests, ... these things could be the only 'real' cause for the no-new-chapters, ... all of that and no more Patreon pay deadlines for getting a payday from his chapters (or placeholders) could be the big reason for no EOM communication, he had no pressing requirement to drop us a note, ... and it may be that he is planning to 'talk' to us later, when he has a completed chapter #164, maybe, .... also, he might actually NEED a (short) break to rest and to recharge, (it has been a really rough year, with his father passing on and all), ... so, he could still, quite honestly, be planning to return soon to his writings, do not count him out yet, ... we've not heard any awful news, so why barrow trouble? -- my fingers are crossed for luck and as for myself, I expect many more chapters, ,,, ;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

Are you tefler in disguise ? All you seem to do is kiss his ass lol. He’s been bad now for ages pre charging now no chapter when promised one but you have never said how he’s using his fans just seems strange. Whenever anyone says anything bad about tefler your on them like a rabid dog every single time never fail to attack strange again your either tefler or his wife/mother.

Dan

Hey Tefler, just wanted to say hope you're doing well; will hear from ya when I hear from ya.

Anonymous

It's not about the money, but, if it was, there are 7-8 thousand followers that have paid for 5 chapters, that's 40k or so... just sayin.

Anonymous

All this chatter about whether Tefler has stopped writing and found an alternative income stream leaving his writing career with payments of 4.5 promised, yet undelivered chapters, or if, like some devotees believe, he is simply taking longer to recover than he had anticipated, could all be so easily be cleared up. The bad feelings between the nay-sayers and Tefler and the devotees, would all go away, if only Tefler took 5 minutes every so often, to keep us updated. It's his lack of communication that is currently bringing him down. That's what is leading more and more people, like myself, to believe we have heard the last of Tefler.

Michael56Smith

Oh yeah John I totally agree with you, Tef's poor communication habits with his fans has always been his greatest weakness, .... so why would we expect him to change now, when he is sick and tired? -- We have all routinely tried to second guess him for many years, and we were almost always at least partly wrong, ... -- I still think that a helpful Intern, working part time for Tef, and sending us a few story status updates each month as part of his/her duties would be very much appreciated by his fans, ... and he/she could send out the free sites' a new chapter or two each month also, ... (lots of good will stuff), .... -- It's just too bad that the very creative author of TSM has his own ways of doing things, ... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

We have been told by numerous Patrons that they only complain because of placeholders and Tefler being behind. Looking forward to when Tefler posts 168, then these people will not have anything more to complain about and we should not hear another complaint on this page from that point on... unless they have just been using that reason as their excuse to complain and at that point they come up with another reason! My guess is the John Gregory complaint above will become the new most popular one and the usual suspects will be up in arms about a lack of life updates from Tefler.

Anonymous

In general, it is customary, in capitalist society, to be entitled to complain about products paid and undelivered

Tom Ray

facebook page Three Square Meals Fans

Tom Ray

there is a lot of stuff out there. he is on amazon under M. Tefler

Anonymous

Literally did the right thing ignoring him, been there and done that and it was a headache dude likes to hear himself talk or rather read himself write. You are 100% correct in saying transparency goes a long way since everyone is here with their thumb up their asses speculating and nothing kills a community faster than speculation. You would think since Tefler has been at this for more than half a decade he'd understand this and him being an adult man who literally wrote a character that takes accountability for themselves and others would have some of those characteristics himself or at least exhibit them.

Kensyi

I'm not going anywhere, hope all is well, would love an update on you

Anonymous

No update is no update. Thank you for not pre-charging.

Anonymous

Seems to me … 3 months in bed with Dragon Dictate should be a possible pastime to while away the hospital boredom

Anonymous

We know he is not Telfer due to the amount he writes, if this was Tefler, we would have chapter 170 or more completed with all the times he has chimed in or things with his opinion on why Tef is not doing what he says he would. :)

Michael56Smith

Dang it, I wish that I could write even half as good as Tefler, ... that would be so awesome, ... ;-) ttfn

glenn kellogg

Well, it was a good run Tefler. Many hours of fun diversion; I’ll just give John and the girls a happy long life in my head with a whole planet full of beautiful babies. Hope your health holds and future endeavors bring abundance. If TSM is part of that, all the better. Thanks

Anonymous

It doesn't help when Patreon changes it's UI. I've seen messages from other creators I'm following that complain mightily about the mountain of pages needed to sort now just to post their latest output. Adding this to personal, IRL problems in addition to some of the madness pervading the UK now and it's understandable that there might be a delay at the very least.

Anonymous

I get that Tefler has had a rough year, I know the feeling. I have had 3 deaths in the family, had my own health problems that landed me in hospital close to death, but still managed to write 387 technical training documents before being told that I am being made redundant, and yet I can find the time to comment. There really is no excuse for Tef's silence.

Anonymous

It’s not about the writing. It’s saying you’re going to release the chapter in 2-3 days, and the 2-3 days has now turned into over a month and hasn’t said a single word. For being a writer, how hard is it to say anything? I knew what was once supposed to be to be one thing, I think because of his roof? Then it just turned into one excuse after another and now he owes 4-1/2 chapters worth, behind. Really, we all paid money in exchange for his story. At this point, it’s basically fraud. He has ripped everyone off. He can’t be bothered to write anything about the delay. A writer that can’t write. WTF!!! Is he still living with all the supposedly health issues? Who knows? How much longer with the excuses from people here when the writer can’t even bother with any excuses? I can only assume at this point that Tefler is dead, or retired and just gave up. I’m leaning towards dead. I don’t see how you can treat your customers this way. Especially when it’s how you make a living. What am I missing? 1st of Nov, will that be long enough to realize he is gone? Is 2024 the year he comes back?

Michael56Smith

Yeah, delays that are Not Tef's fault or doing, .... let's give the guy a break, and the benefit of the doubt as well, .... I hate that some have so quickly jumped onto the Tefler has quit writing TSM bandwagon, ... he has had to step up and do many things that his wife, with a broken arm will not be able to do for many more weeks, ... and his gallbladder still needs tending to, ... please be a little more patient, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

We don’t know what Tefler’s circumstances are however it would only take him 5min to give an update and manage our expectations. TBH he is really poor at that.

Michael56Smith

Hey Mike, ... you do know that Tef has ALWAYS been awful about keeping in touch with his fans, ... we got updates only when he produced some words to get him paid, (at EOM mostly or first day after a new chapter dropped), . .. I do not think he will be likely to improve any in these current circumstances, ... oh well, fingers still crossed for second half of chapter #164, ... ;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

Mr m56s I’m sure your tefler or his wife because it’s like your on your knees in front of him never say anything remotely bad just suck suck suck.

Jim lynch

Mr m56s I’m sure your tefler or his wife because it’s like your on your knees in front of him never say anything remotely bad just suck suck suck.

Michael56Smith

... and I think that you Jim, are crass, crude and totally uncalled for, .... and those are your good points, .... TTFN

Tefler Fan 007

Tefler Log- Day 37- the mists are closing in. TSM fans are restless and starting to go crazy with boredom. We are all waiting for the next chapter to banish away the darkness…..End Log

Unresolved Plots

You're, not your Jim. You can't be married if you think wives don't say anything remotely bad to their husbands and are always on their knees sucking away!!

Anonymous

Actually, we are not only waiting or the next chapter, we are waiting to hear if Teller has given up, is still alive, still cares about us, has had a breakdown, is now homeless, is in the hospital under a different name, etc., Basically, we are waiting to hear from him in any capacity.

Tefler Fan 007

Tefler log- UPDATE- Tefler is alive and communicating with people on discord in private DMs. Whether it’s writer’s block or he is done writing I don’t know . However considering that he stopped posting chapters on Lit because all the hate and comments on a FREE site, he probably won’t post anything soon here. My guess is Christmas if we are lucky or next year.

Anonymous

Hahaha, if true, another sign of why people are tired of him. You can make posts on a free site, but nothing on the site people pay to hear from you? I know my brother canceled his subscription, and I reduced mine, and from what others have said here, people are fed up and are doing the same. Way to cancel yourself Tef.

Michael56Smith

Grandizer has gotten his wires crossed, .... he is confused or just cannot write worth a darn, .... that might explain a few things, .... so sad, .... get better soon, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

I tried my best. It is October 8 today and still no word. I fear for the worst.

Anonymous

I had a dream last night that I was teleportative like the lead character in Jumper and Reflex and was called by a telepathic, beautiful blonde woman to help a team of delicious babes. I ended up on the invictus. TEFLER: PLEASE WRITE!

Jim lynch

M56s just like you are to anyone who has an opinion you disagree with mr suck a lot.

Jim lynch

Unresolved plots you need to read my comment again because you completely misunderstood my comment what was my sarcasm that m56s is so far up tefler ass he must be on his knees sucking ya berk😂

Unresolved Plots

Tefler's last comments that I remember wrt the free sites was that he will post the entire story to them. He hasn't posted there in a while, but he hasn't posted here in a while either, doesn't mean he will not do so in the future. Unless Tefler announces that he is done with the story on here, or that he will not post anything on the free sites, then it is logical to assume nothing has changed wrt his stated intentions.

Tefler Fan 007

I had a dream about blue twins with white hair then I woke up with blue balls and another gray hair.

Anonymous

I hate it too, but that is of Tef's own making, or lack of communication.

Anonymous

Does anyone have an update on Tefler? Hope all is well with him.

Michael56Smith

Okay, let's try this for all of you worriers, ... Our Tef has always been a very poor communicator, .... very spotty, ... mostly his updates were at or near the time of his dropping of a new chapter (or placeholder in recent times) so, I say that the payday incentive brought about (forced) his communicating, ... -- Now, he has promised to not do 'placeholders' again, at least not until his has gotten all caught up, ... therefore, no incentive to give us any new updates, ... at least not until he drops us a chapter, ... so, let's not worry over that lousy Tef habit, and cross our fingers for more of his wonderful TSM writings, ... cause Tef is just being Tef, ... -- and to quote the infamous Alfred E. Newman, "What, me worry!" .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

... our buddy TF007 says he is alive, writing / talking with people on discord, ... so this is just Tef being his normal, non-communicative self, ... no worries, mate, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Its been over 6 weeks since we have had any coms for teffer does any one know whats going on

Unresolved Plots

I believe it was one brief message or short conversation with one of the mods on Discord about a 3 weeks ago, a small part of which has been posted on there. No other communications that I am aware of and that message does not give any info on Tefler's current condition, so we are all in the same boat really, hoping that he is healthy and posts as soon as he can.

Steven

Hey folks, anybody else going through TSM withdrawal as bad as me? Is it, Heaven forbid, over? I suspect IT IS NOT! Tefler has reportedly been in contact with some on Discord DMs. He’s also popped on Discord but those in the “know” aren’t saying and everyone else has a case of “WAS” (that’s Wild Ass Speculation). Take a breath please and keep things in perspective. If the worst things we have to deal with are some missed self imposed, hope filled deadlines by the artist, wow aren’t we lucky, or blessed. The governments haven’t shut down, hospitals didn’t close, electricity is still flowing and the trains are still running. I’m not making excuses for Tefler or anyone else. They don’t need to justify their lives, choices or troubles. We don’t know and can’t understand what someone else going through or struggling with AND we have no right to know. There are people here in this group who have health issues, financial issues, marital issues & some hellish mixture of all. Some here have lost the fight with that “that good night” (RIP, Recurve33!) And others that soon will. Take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. What we DO share here is an apparent passion for this story. Again, take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. We discuss (& lightly argue, lol) the science, weapons, strategy, plots, well just about every aspect of TSM. Since it’s relative. The Wheel Of Time book series is reported to be 4,410,000 words and took 23 years to achieve. TSM started 12/20/15 and we received the first half of chapter 164 on 7/31/23 and at my current count is at 4,242,460 words. That’s 7yrs, 7 months & 11 days, or 91.3 months. (And it’s still going) That’s also an average of 1.8 chapters a month and an average of 46,467.25 words a month and before someone gets snarky “no I’m not on the payroll either”, just old and experienced. Don’t you think maybe the guy has earned a break. Remember Karma can be a Bitch. I’ve had a couple of very brief brush-bys with her and that was enough! Ok, I’ve expressed my thoughts so you can pull out your torches and pitchforks now. Hopefully some will ponder some of the more important things in life and then, maybe what Dana will come up with next...

Michael56Smith

good thoughts and suggestions, thank you for sharing, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Don't forget that life has been kicking Tefler in the head in the past few months. Writing a story this big is a full time job, he is allowed a break every so often. Even corporate America allows its indentured staff time off every now and then.

Michael56Smith

Recall that besides his family and health problems, Tefler's father passed away early this year, so 2023 has really sucked for our Tef, ... ;-) ttfn

Tefler Fan 007

I’ll be happy with something by Christmas. Tefler rest up and spend time with the family.

Anonymous

What’s the latest on tefler?

Michael56Smith

If only someone who has had a recent dialog with Tef on Discord would pass on how he is doing and how the status of TSM is sitting, ... -- from Discord, we do know that Tef is still with us, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

I get that shit happens, but I left on deployment February of this year hoping to come back to a bunch of chapters and so far I have exactly 3 chapters in 8 months. (Half 161, 162, 163, half 164) I'll hold out until the end of the year when I go out again, but if I can't come back to some new content I may finally let go of any hope of this story finishing in my lifetime. Godspeed F5 crew and stay strong, you have much more patience than I. (This is my 2 cents, you don't have to agree, and I also want to add I can't take days off without the written permission of 8 people and I get through life just fine.)

Myrnalin

After being a Patron for years I feel I recognize a pattern.. I think suddenly 4-5 chapters will drop

Michael56Smith

yeah, IF he wants to get back to getting a monthly paycheck from Patreon, he needs to catch up, and dropping seeveral chapters at once might explain why we've not heard from him in a while, .... So, with no more placeholder paydays, IF he wants new paychecks, then he needs to produce new chapters, .... he could do it, .... but will his health and family let him, .... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

@ Myrnalin. This is the ideal optimistic scenario for the lack of updates from Tefler. I do think that when he is well enough to write, he will quickly complete 164 part 2 and 165, the outline of which he has stated he already has and probably takes us to the end of the current war arc. If Faye's long awaited return does not happen in these chapters, then it is almost certain that it happens in 166 in the aftermath of the battle, along with resolving or attending to the resulting or ongoing issues e.g. Securing and bringing Mael's remaining 7 defense stations online, deploying any remaining requisitioned Larathyran fleets, same with the remaining Galkiran Thralls, fleets and Wormhole Gate, continuing the evacuation of the Maliri males, exploring Kythshara and the bunker under the palace on Valada etc... This is easily enough to fill an entire chapter. We have the visit to the Star Forges to look forward to, which again could be an entire chapter on its own. Visiting Brimor to deal with Athgiloi and free the Abandoned, Tom Walkers ongoing trial and Lynette's problems with the Outer Rim and High command are other issues that need to be resolved. So I hope that your prediction is correct and Tefler is able to quickly commit all the above and more to paper.

Tefler Fan 007

Chapters 164-166 will deal with final battle with GK and 165 will be cliffhanger. Chapter 167- will be celebrating their win with orgy and there will be issues in TFED. The end of chapter will be bringing Faye back and fighting astral monsters. Chapter 168- will have Faye on her knees being a good girl and then John and crew rushing to TFED to save Lynette and Charles from possible civil war between Admirals. Just my opinion and guess. 😁

Michael56Smith

Oh yeah, I also love to speculate upon possibilities in the next chapters, but Tef (via his creative mind and his Tefler Twists) almost always surprises me, ... and that is part of the joy that is TSM, .... sigh, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Well the most surprising part will be ANY sign from Tefler at all. Just think he abandonned his audience.. Sorry but the story is now just simply dead ..

Anonymous

I'd just like to hear a word so we know he's still kicking.

Michael56Smith

Hey there Jonathan, others have said he has been on Discord recently, on DM talking to fans, .... so, he is still alive and at least fairly healthy, at least enough to type, .... that's good, right? Because we want him typing, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael carney

Hey Michael, what happened to the follower who used to write scenes that could almost have been mistaken for Tefler's handiwork. Can't think of his name, but did ask him once if he could post them all in one spot. Also if Tef feels he has run his course maybe he could hand everything over to the aforementioned to Collab a finish. Tef releases it and pays him from his patron income on the final chapters.

Michael carney

Also does anyone has info on all the different storieslines ?? that haven't been finished, like trials, traitors, Faye, and everything else up in the air.

Anonymous

I suppose I would like to join the aforementioned Discord, is the invitation public?

Anonymous

Tefler was last seen Sept 22nd on Admiral Kester's Discord at: https://discord.gg/6UaMa3UA Didn't make any comments, but did pop in...

Anonymous

Or a family member tried to find a way to communicate with his readers to let us know that Teller has passed on. At this point, I believe Tefler is either dead or in a coma. Otherwise, he would have checked in on September 30.

Rayce Royal

Every time that I look in the mirror All these lines on my face getting clearer The past is gone Oh, it went by like dusk to dawn Isn't that the way? Everybody's got their dues in life to pay, oh, oh, oh I know nobody knows Where it comes and where it goes I know it's everybody's sin You got to lose to know how to win Half my life's in books' written pages Storing facts learned from fools and from sages You view the earth Oh, sing with me, this mournful dub Sing with me, sing for a year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear Sing with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away Oh, sing with me, sing for the year Sing for the laughter, and sing for the tear Sing it with me, if it's just for today Maybe tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away Dream on Dream on I dream on Dream a little, I'll dream on Dream on I dream on I dream on Dream a little, I'll dream on Dream on Dream on Dream on I'll dream on Dream on Dream on Aerosmith "Dream On"

Michael56Smith

hey there Bigfoot, I think you might have been hanging out in the forests, yelling and bending small trees over, for too long, .... besides, Tef is Not dead, nor is he in a coma, .... just give him the time he needs to recover his health and take care of his family, ... after all, that is what is important, right? ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

That was very poetic RR, I liked it, thank you, ... now I'll say goodnight and go to bed and dream, ...;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Oh, and for CH Darksriders Prometheus series fans, a new chapter, chapter #56 drops on Saturday according to the Author, Yay! ... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

Jonathan, the aforementioned Discord that you asked about has this permanent invite https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord The other Discord link you have been given is not the one that you were asking about (the one Tefler actually spoke to someone in), so it is disingenuous to give the other link. @Bigfoot A small segment of a private conversation with Tefler was posted to a in-memoriam page dedicated to recurve, who recently sadly passed away and was about her. It can be found on the above Discord link.

Unresolved Plots

@Michael Carney. So far as I know, no Patron has any non public knowledge about the outcome of upcoming story threads (apart from possibly Cignal, who does the ship designs for Tefler and might have more knowledge than the rest of us do, but keeps annoyingly quiet about what he knows lol)! However, if you visit the Tefler Discord here https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord Cignal is one of the mods and there are years worth of discussions, speculation and theories about the story threads. There are also fan fictions posted to this Discord, so while I am unsure which follower you are referring to (maybe Kin Asdi)? It is likely that if this follower wrote any fan fictions he has posted his stories there.

Rayce Royal

Love that song. Posted as a friendly reminder for everyone to keep dreaming of TSM and what they hope to have happen in the next few chapters :)

Michael56Smith

I hope Tef can squeeze a freebie TSM chapter or two in at this time, last was back in May, and 20 chapters behind Patreon, ... Maybe only a dozen chapters would be enough of a lead, ... just a thought, ... ;-) ttfn

Tipp McClure

So is this the end?

Anonymous

He has four E Books out on Amazon so he may want to slow roll the free stuff. Even if four books is 600,000 words that only 1/5 of the three million he has written so far. I am assuming that he is still alive? I rarely go on Discord (I have forgotten my password) but it seems he is active there. Then there is the possibility he won't write again.

Michael56Smith

... no hefty female warbling happening yet, Tipp, ... have faith, ... and some patience too, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

... yeah, possibilities, ... and I thought the word count on TSM was over the 4 million mark, ...? ;-) ttfm

Rayce Royal

Do I hear echoes of Jeff Goldblum in your response, M56S? Reminds me of Independence Day. "What is it with you and fat ladies? You're obsessed with fat ladies!"

Anonymous

Is this the end? Looks like it....

Michael carney

Thank you for your reply. I'll just have to go back a few months and slowly scroll through the comment and find that elusive bugger. Will post his name on this thread if I find it.

Anonymous

What is happening

bjcreek

No one knows. Except maybe some on Discord. Tef isn't going to be doing placeholders any more, and said he'll finish the ones we're owed. Since he no longer is doing placeholders there's no obvious urgency to finish those we're owed, so no one knows what, if any, schedule there is for finishing them. Or if he'll continue after that. I think most of us hope he will continue. That's all I know. Sorry.

Michael56Smith

Plus, he is still helping out from his hurt wife with the broken arm, and he has (maybe) yet to have his gallbladder surgery, .... all time-consuming stuff, .... we'll get new TSM chapters when we get them, ... by Thanksgiving? ... before Christmas? ... I really don't think Tef has given up, but he is likely in need of some kind of a break, ... so, next year (2024) should be a really good year for TSM, .... Please, everyone stay well, ... fingers crossed, ... ;-) ttfn

Cignal

The last date I spotted Tefler on his Discord site was on 10-10-23. Here is a link https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord which Unresolved Plots posted above.

tony

funny we haven't got a chapter in 2 months, i am starting to lose hope of any more chapters this year

Anonymous

Not a good style of appreciation to send not one comment about himself about a needed break or whatelse. So 2024 is coming with big steps and therefore the precog of the next chapters in the next year will come true….

Anonymous

I'm worried about his health.

Anonymous

You would think, being a writer, you would say at least 1 sentence to all the people paying real money for his story . I just don’t get it. He says he is putting up a chapter in 2-3 days and then nothing after all this time. I don’t give a crap about Discord. Does he make his money on Discord also? What’s it’s been, 5 months since anything new? But he can’t be bothered to say anything. Come on, it’s pretty ridiculous. A writer that can’t write 1 sentence? To me it seems insane. Even a line saying he’s taking a few months off. Something, anything!!!

Anonymous

I'm of the opinion he is gravely ill and unable to communicate with us. He's never intentionally pissed off his readers especially when he was using the money he made here as a major source of income.

Myrnalin

PATREON ADDED A WAY TO BLOCK USERS !!!!!! :O Goodbye whiners may you whine in Peace! (and to me silence)

Newnotsure

I think the block is for the full group not just from you . I think it is like a removal from the group

Anonymous

Interesting that the placeholders were give Tefler money on a monthly basis as he needed the cash. Now he doesn’t??? I suspect he is no longer a full time writer and it would not surprise me if our favourite story is done.

Unresolved Plots

This is the first time I have heard this, can you explain how this is done, or provide a link to the explanation please?

bjcreek

I keep checking back to 164 since that one isn't quite finished and that seems the logical place for Tef to add something new. Checking about once a week, and calling it hopeful. Glad some are still commenting. And I don't care if some are letting off steam, everyone needs relief from time to time. Best wishes to all!

Rayce Royal

Maybe he inherited some funds from his late father's estate? That would at least explain the lack of placeholders. Still, it would be wonderful to get some kind of update on his health.

Anonymous

I am much more concerned about the health of Faye. I was expecting her to return as a filthy organic and bring her own set of charms to produce an end to Xar and his hold over the Progenitors. Then the story can end on a happy and triumphant note and everyone can get on with their growing families.

Anonymous

We have paid for early access to free chapters. We have got what we paid for. We will see these chapters before the following on stories on line or Literotica.

Robar

So, almost 2 mo later, what’s happening with this story and your health?

MVFast

The Tom Walker situation has to be dealt with. I’ve re-read the story several times, but usually skipped over most of that. It’s interesting, but not enough to re-read multiple times. The Maliri hacker can’t be left to keep causing mischief. Also, the Enshunu, and the Achonin space station are another thread that’s still open. What will the Maliri do with their soon to be “obsolete” spacecraft? I’m sure no one’s forgotten the Brimorians still need to be dealt with. What psychic power will Faye get? Charles Harris’s harem has another potential addition (Tamar, captain of the Aphrodite) Will they recover the remains of dead nymphs? Guys (and gals?) what other open story lines has Tefler left to be told? Addendum; I don’t think he ever said precisely how many progenitors there are. If he can kill Zar, they won’t become “good” overnight, but how much of their power depends on him? Separation from their thralls (and therefore most of their power) would dramatically change the fight too.

Michael56Smith

Lots of good thoughts, ... -- I hope they can find the bodies of a few 'dead' Nymphs, .... and might John try to revive them at the same time as he 'gift of life' or 'spark of life' to Faye? To cut down on Astral interference maybe, ... As for Faye's abilities, her cloned body is from Irillith, so Cyber / electrical powers seem to be a given, .... but, ....? (Tefler Twist?) -- And as for most of the old 'obsolete' Maliri fleets, ... I think that the Laranthyrans could use a space presence, ... and the training that goes with it, .... -- And can Xar'aziuth even be confronted before all the various individual Progenitor Empires are dealt with? .... -- The Enshunu, and any old Achonin relics may need to wait for the sequel, ... but finding out about the Shroud should be a priority, ... -- A bigger Harem for Charles? wow, I hope Rachel's powers have continued to grow, he might just need some more health and fitness, asap, .... -- and will the Brimorians give over the Abandoned to the Maliri, or must John step in? And then might that smitten Maliri hacker in hiding turn herself, and her ship, over to Baen'thelas? -- Then, in a few generations, the former Abandoned could become the helpful undersea culture that the Brimorian's always should've been, .... co-occupying many water worlds along-side of the Maliri and Terrans, ... --- please keep thinking those good thoughts, .... ;-) ttfn

Myrnalin

click the person you wish to block, enter their profile and click block It aint hard

Robar

I'm not worried but curious where it is. Thanks just please don't die. Seen that happen and it still hurts ! Tell someone the story you have so if the worst were to happen...at least there would be closure. Get healthy in any case!

MVFast

THAT’S what happened to Tef!!! He wrote himself into a mental breakdown. Since Faye is now a filthy organic, he can’t write about her having dreams of killing organics since she’d have to kill herself. Ohh, the agony! Whatever will she joke about now? 😅

Justin Webb

I just don't know how tefler can leave so much money on the table. when the Patron count was up he was almost at 8,000 people that's means he was earning around 10 grand A month for 1 chapter, and that was some time ago. I could never abandon such a high paying job that really only required A week of writing per month. But if tefler if gone I hope someone will pick the story up and keep writing it, I would totally follow the new writer

Newnotsure

Where is this coming from give the man a break don’t go writing him as dead please. He needs time

Michael56Smith

I abso-f**king-luty agree with Newnotsure, .... our wonderful Author is in need of more time, and some understanding too, .... I say let him have it, ... nuff said, ... ;-) ttfn

DemonHunterCole

Almost 3 months and no word. Hope he’s okay. Has there been any updates posted by him on any of the 3 discords?

Anonymous

Optimism is good. Blind faith in the face of contrary facts is a cult.

Unresolved Plots

3? I thought it was 2 Discords. Cignal, a mod on the original Tefler Discord, posted on here a few days ago that he last saw Tefler on Discord on 10th October. So he at least logged on about 2 weeks ago. Whether he is writing and has made any progress is just speculation. If anyone knows more they are remaining quiet. I am an optimist, so I'm holding out hope that Tefler has had his operation, recovered, is back writing and is going to surprise us with the rest of 164, 165, 166, 167 and 168 very soon.

Greg Hill

He can't block anyone from this site on his say so, or his disregard alone, in this context he has less power than a working girl from "Pitbull's" gang...and just because a person is blocked by an individual it doesn't preclude others from seeing those comments. And the reverse of that blocking is applicable also...not hard at all!

Michael56Smith

Yeah, for here it has been almost 2 months, not 3, ... and I am less an optimist, I fear he has yet to go under the knife, ... that he was waiting until his wife was better able to take care of things before he took himself out of the picture for a time, recovering after the operation, ... but yeah, I am thinking his writer's nose will be back to the writing grind stone soon, ... fingers crossed, ... --- I might expect him to send us the second part to chapter #164 just before he goes in for his surgery, .... we'll know then, .... maybe? ;-) ttfn

Myrnalin

Not true, Check this out you are now invisible to me :)

Myrnalin

Ah silence, there used to be some kinda bump of dirt here but now its all silent, He is precisely the kind of person I want to block

Anonymous

Those on discord that know something should come clean, and tell us the real reason, not some bogus excuses that nobody in their right mind believes.

Anonymous

People are saying three months because he posted the last day of August saying he is still not finished the chapter he owed us from July.

Michael56Smith

Whoa there Braveheart, ... and just who was it that sent you to comment all 'negatively' on TSM, ...as you do NOT seem to be open minded enough for the story, ... nor do you seem to be enjoying any of the delightful things revealed in a wonderful Sci-Fi tale like Three Square Meals, .... Therefore, it must have been a horrible 'under-the-bridge-troll', that sent you here, .... ugh! ... and so, there will be no cookies for you! .... ;-) ttfn

Steven

Hey folks, anybody else going through TSM withdrawal as bad as me? Is it, Heaven forbid, over? I suspect IT IS NOT! Latest: “It is a combination of things. First, his health is a real issue. Not going into specifics but he is dealing with a really bad infection in and around his liver. Second, he is fed up with all the whining to the point he has gone out and gotten a job. His intent is to let the entitlement mindset work against them, hoping they will be a bit more introspective (as if). Third, he is burned out and is taking a break. So this is going to take a while to resolve. Sit back and do a re-read or two.” From someone who should know Take a breath please and keep things in perspective. If the worst things we have to deal with are some missed self imposed, hope filled deadlines by the artist, wow aren’t we lucky, or blessed. The governments haven’t shut down, hospitals didn’t close, electricity is still flowing and the trains are still running. I’m not making excuses for Tefler or anyone else. They don’t need to justify their lives, choices or troubles. We don’t know and can’t understand what someone else going through or struggling with AND we have no right to know. There are people here in this group who have health issues, financial issues, marital issues & some hellish mixture of all. Some here have lost the fight with that “that good night,” And others that soon will. (RIP, Recurve33!) Take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. What we DO share here is an apparent passion for this story. Again, take time to read the posts here and on the Discord servers. We discuss (& lightly argue, lol) the science, weapons, strategy, plots, well just about every aspect of TSM. Since it’s relative and for balance. The Wheel Of Time book series is reported to be 4,410,000 words and took 23 years to achieve. TSM is currently at is at 4,261,460 words, 7yrs, 7 months & 11 days, or 91.3 months. (And it’s still going) That’s also an average of 1.8 chapters a month and an average of 46,467.25 words a month and before someone gets snarky “no I’m not on the payroll either”, just old and experienced. Don’t you think maybe the guy has earned a break, I sure as hell do! Remember Karma can be a Bitch. I’ve had a couple of very brief brush-bys with her and that was enough! Ok, I’ve expressed my thoughts so you can pull out your torches and pitchforks now. Hopefully some will ponder some of the more important things in life and then, maybe what Dana will come up with next...

Anonymous

If that's true he is in for a rude awakening. Pre charging and not delivering because he is fed up with the whining is against patreon tos and people can and will charge their money back after making a ticket to patreon and complaining about fraud. That's what it is simply. So again if true he better start saving up his money from his new found job

Anonymous

"Entitlement mindset." Like feeling entitled to swan off with our money and not providing promised content. I have been patiently waiting and not posting regular complaints, but I understand the feelings of the people that have. I feel that writing off a large collection of regular customers as 'entitled whiners' who parted with their money in good faith, and have reason to feel resentful, is a bad business move. I also believe going so long without posting updates generates the risky proposition of people realising they've lost momentum and emotional investment with the story and finally decide to write it off. Some people might be happy that their product is so popular that consumers are screaming, "Shut up and take my money!" Something of a luxury problem to have. Insulting them and their interest is an interesting move, let's see if it pays off.

Rayce Royal

I've been firmly on the Tefler bandwagon since I started reading several years ago. However, if what you say is true and he truly believes this: "he is fed up with all the whining to the point he has gone out and gotten a job. His intent is to let the entitlement mindset work against them, hoping they will be a bit more introspective (as if)." then he is in for quite a rude awakening. If true, this one sentence has turned me against this author. To say his readers are ENTITLED for wanting what they were charged for is truly the pot calling the kettle black. Have some complained too much? Absolutely. However, they have not been given what they are owed. In a court of law, that would constitute fraud and is a criminal offense. His lack of communication and apparent disdain for the readers (according to your quoted words) will truly be the death of this story. I, for one, will shed manly tears to lose such a work of art. I will not continue to support someone who refuses to respect me, though.

Anonymous

I do believe expecting something already paid for is, in fact, NOT entitlement. Instead, seems to me to fall under contract law...

Rayce Royal

I will now sit back and suffer the character assassination that is bound to happen for speaking out against the almighty Tefler

jdg45

I think the whiners should get the coming chapters. Only a few thousand words for each. There is no rule about content! Then maybe TSM can get back on track!!!

Kensyi

TBH, I was tired off prepaying for chapters, but only when he didn't clear it first, like talk to us, even a small update would be amazing. Like that was all I really wanted was a, "hey all I need to pre charge the chapter this month, medical problems have arisen in the family" or something, I'm not going anywhere I am still checking in every so often. It's 2 bucks for me it isn't a big loss of money, but I just wish to know he is alive. Some stories I read and have read are amazing then they just stop. And nothing new cuz something happened and it saddens me, I really wish to have a finish to this story it is so amazing. Can't wait for him to come back from his break. I will still be here.

Anonymous

Steven, please pass on my best wishes for a quick recovery and peace to Tefler if you can.

Anonymous

I don’t care if he needs time. What I do care about is not saying a single work here. He reports a. We chapter is being released in a few days and then nothing. If he wants to take 6 months of, fine, but to not say a single word here, all the people that are paying him. It takes almost no effort. A single short sentence and yet nothing. That is what is pissing people off. Entitled? You mean to get what we paid for and he was the one that piled on pre-pays, when it was suppose to be a 1 time think to fix is roof or something. So right now it’s fraud. He took money from people over and over and hasn’t delivered. Can’t even be bothered to say anything!!! Refund everyone the money they have paid out already and wasn’t delivered the product, and then we’ll be out of here. This is no longer working. The only person that seems to be entitled is the author.

Greg Hill

He's heard you...he hasn't gone anywhere he reads every last word...has a few aliases here.

Anonymous

Can anyone recommend another story to pass the time?

Anonymous

I’ve had gallbladder surgery years ago. I was in the hospital for 4 days board out of my mind and then took a couple weeks off of work, sitting around and being board. Trying to walk more and more to build up strength. It I was a writer, sitting there typing, wouldn’t have been a big deal. Even informing my supporters by at least a single sentence to them know I need a break for a few months, whatever. That I’m still around doesn’t take much effort. I could do that on any number of devices. But to leave everyone hanging once again. When you say you’ll release the chapter in a couple days and then nothing for almost 2 months and it’s been far longer to even get a full complete chapter. Where like 4 or so prepays behind. I know I wouldn’t want to screw my subscribers like this. This is completely bad business.

Anonymous

I’m all for him taking a break. The problem is HE said the finished chapter would be released in a few days.. a few days has turned into 2 months. An author who maybe wants to take a break, who knows. Can’t throw out a simple sentence here stating that? Or release the chapter he said he was going to and say he needs some time off for 6 months or whatever. I’m sure people would be fine with that. It’s that to lazy to say anything that is pissing people off. Either really lazy, or he is dead. At this point, he might as well be dead. This is completely ridiculous. Things happen in life. We all get that. But saying nothing is quite frankly DUMB. We are the people paying him so he can be an author and get paid sitting on his butt. Making a lot of money doing that. But he can’t mention anything to his supporters? That takes almost zero effort. It makes no sense unless he is dead. If he is still alone, then it’s fraud. He has taken money from all of us and not released the product we have paid for. If he is still alive, a refund to everyone needs to be done. As far as I know. The story is dead just like the author. Whatever pop ups on Discord is meaningless.

Anonymous

Well if he does that, I’d just stop paid. It would be 100% fraud. I’d request a refund. I’d hope many others did the same at this point. Right now it’s fraud and it is 100% his fault.

Steven

These are on Lit WordsToTheWise - The Vengeful Tide series Antiproton - a Dragon's Tale BurntRedstone - Anything he writes Bowoodstock - Kita'thalla series Snekguy -

Anonymous

Someone has undoubtedly already recommended this, but the Subjugation series is quite possibly the best set of stories I've ever read on the 'net. You can find them at http://forum.sennadar.com/ Do a google search and you can find the books on Goodreads. He's halfway through book 10 at the moment, and has regular chapter updates.

Anonymous

Of course, if it could be shown that Tefler was aware that he would not be able to post those chapters when he said he was going to, it elevates the breach from contract law to something approaching False Pretences. There's what, 4 1/2 chapters that have been paid for but not delivered, with no comment from the author? I think he was making around $8000 USD per chapter, so we're looking at around $34,000 that have been paid to him for no product? Might be worthwhile taking a look at.

Anonymous

I've gotten into litrpg in a big way recently. One I always have to recommend to anyone that will listen is the Dungeon Crawler Carl series by Matt Dinniman. Carl goes outside in boxer shorts and pink crocs to retrieve his gf's wayward cat 'Princess Donut'. Once outside, every structure around gets flattened and anyone that was in them dies. He has one chance to avoid death by exposure and enter a portal that pops up nearby. This is a portal to a dungeon and Carl, Princess Donut who ends up being upgraded to sapience enter it and all the goings-on in the dungeon by Earth's survivors is broadcast across the universe for the entertainment of the masses. There are many questions, will Carl survive? More importantly, will he ever loot any pants? I really like these books and can't recommend them enough. Just recently reread the Primal Hunter series by Zogarth as book 7 was released. Earth gets integrated into the 'system', protagonist becomes a Hunter, finds a hidden dungeon and becomes an alchemist of 'the Malefic Viper'. Meets the Viper, who's a snake, turned dragon, turned God. Also makes friends with a family of Hawks, and develops a pathological loathing for mushrooms. The dungeon he finds in his territory is guarded by a powerful fungus, and when he gets in there it's full of mushroom worshipping freaks. Very funny and entertaining. Other notables: Shirtaloon - He Who Fights with Monsters, TheFirstDefier - Defiance of the Fall, Noret Flood - The Legend of Randidly Ghosthound, Konrad Ryan - The Dungeon Slayer, Ivan Kal - The Infinite Realm. Also, a couple of serials I'm reading on RoyalRoad atm: Sleyca - Super Supportive. Kid gets a support class 'Rabbit' and is convinced to take the ability 'Let me take your luggage'. His goal initially was to team up with and support a more powerful hero. He ends up being summoned as soon as he picks these to help transport dangerously explosive experiments from students at an alien magical academy. Maxime J. Durand - The Perfect Run. Ryan "Quicksave" Romano is an eccentric adventurer with a strange power: he can create a save-point in time and redo his life whenever he dies. Can he make his whole life in the mythical 'Perfect Run' and will villains please stop destroying his car!

Michael56Smith

Oh Joe, it is just that MANY of your fellow TSM fans are so sick and tired of the horrible whiners, like you, and that should Tef decide to write a handful of very short chapters, to catch up, then WE would likely applaud him for the effort to shut you guys up, ... Anyway, try to have a nice day, ... and a safe and happy Halloween too, ... ;-) ttfn

Dan

There's a lit author named Ripperfish, had a decent story called 'upon a savage shore'

Anonymous

Eric Storm's Woodward Academy is a great series over at https://www.wolfpub.org/contributors/show_item.php?i=237&cid=3 He has quite a few great stories there, and quite a few other authors putting stuff out...

Jim lynch

Big hard words by a fat keyboard warrior mr smith go play in traffic your not liked on this or any other site with your shitty comments

Rayce Royal

Ripperfish was doing amazing things until someone stole his story and sold it as their own on amazon. Really tore his heart out. IF he is still writing, I cannot find where.

Rayce Royal

I would like to perform an experiment: Those of you who poo-poo the "whining entitled people" go onto Amazon or some other on-line ordering site. Now, purchase 5 things. It doesn't matter what the cost is, just as long as you go ahead and pay for them. Ok, done? Good. Next step is to wait. When they deliver half of one of the products over the next six months, I want you to think about how you have chastised and denigrated those who have acted "entitled" and demanded what they bought. At no time can you write an email to Amazon complaining about the lack of delivery of your justly purchased products. Why? Because you reap what you sow. I sincerely have no idea how someone can justify in their mind how expecting delivery of what is paid for can be considered entitlement. Conversely, I also have no idea how people can be so demanding of a clearly ill person to continue to perform at pre-sickness levels. A tiny bit of communication would go a long way toward easing tension between author and patrons. That being said, please understand that the man is SERIOUSLY ILL, and quite possibly has zero energy to post something that he knows will be met with negativism and vitriol. (oooh I used some big words there :) I would like to propose a truce between the "nay-sayers" and the "cultists". This infighting does no one any good. In fact, it seriously detracts from the desire to visit this site, if all you see are barbs being thrown at each other. Clearly, we are all here because WE LOVE TSM AND WANT MORE. None of what any of us are doing is helping to create a place where Tefler feels safe in communicating. Please, take what I have said with a few pounds of salt and a laugh. Don't take yourselves or life so serious. Who knows, maybe Santa will bring us what we all want for Christmas. Be kind.

Michael56Smith

okay, so Aug 31, then all of Sept, then most of October, .... so almost 2 months, .... check, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

Well Jim, I think of it like this, ... if a Parrot says something, it is not the bird's 'opinion', but the one teaching it the words, .... thus, sad Braveheart is more to be pitied for saying those words from elsewhere, .... and maybe you too Jim, ... -- Troll chow for everyone, or bird feed, ... your choice, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

oh, pooh-pooh Jim, have some bird seed, ... -- so, comments are 'shitty' because you do not agree? how lame, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

So I know this story started around 2015 (if I remember correctly). I found it around 2018 and started reading it. An loving it. Somewhere in late 2022I found the Patreon page to continue the story. Until now. While I waited to continue the story in June I started reading the story from the beginning for the 2nd time. Finding ot new things I did not comprehend the 1st time. The story got better. Now I am rereading the story for the 3rd time. ( on chapter 48) Remembering things I forgot from the first 2 times. I understand sickness and no energy. I can wait and hope TSM will start writing again and finish the story someday. Good luck.

Anonymous

Time to get back to Chapter 48. Ok may the complaints start again.

Anonymous

First I’ve heard this brought up but going point Rayce. I’ve had to deal with the death of a parent on my own at a young age and it was horrific. Going to happen again in the next couple years. I don’t know Tef personally. Is his mom still with us? What was the size of the estate? Does he have any siblings either helping or hindering the process? And that’s just the passing of his father, let’s face it, Tef’s had a shit year, more than most usually have to deal with. But having said all that I still find it unconscionable to not drop a line to his hundreds? Thousands? of fans and say “sorry guys I’ve just been overwhelmed”or “Fuck all y’all I need a couple/few months to decompress”. My second to worst fear is his father was very well off and writing was starting to feel like a job instead of being fun and his like “Meh” and my worst fear is he has received the kind of medical news that would make us all disappear from his consciousness. Hope there’s a third option out there. His story really is one of a kind.

Anonymous

The lack of a single sentence from Tefler is also very frustrating to me but I have a slightly different take on his unfilled quota. I starting reading his story on “Lit” long before I even knew that he had a Patreon account. I pay $1 a chapter so Tef has “stolen” $4.50 from me. I know some may be more generous and be out more than this. I almost feel guilty having paid so little for the amount of enjoyment he has provided me. I’m not happy with what’s going on but the money I’M out is a hell of a deal for the forty chapters I read for free.

Anonymous

Annabelle Hawthorne‘s “Home for Horny Monsters” is fantastic. She’s on Literotica and Patreon and has just recently quit her job to write full time. NOT A DIG AT TEF, she is a very consistent provider.

Damion Cocchi

Life as a New Hire & One in Ten (similar to Y: The Last Man) Literotica and also published on Amazon (James M. Dosher). Radley's Home for Horny Monsters, also Dead and Horny, and Last of Her Kind by Annabelle Hawthorne on Literotica and self published Odyssey by Sophia Kisker, she published everything on Literotica, and then took it all down and went self published, still a great series Fourth Vector, and few other stories by CJ McCormick [refreshed as Tyler Bowman with new stories, didn't take off a he had hoped]

Anonymous

Also a nice one (Harem Themed, great Dialogue): Tamryn Tamer's "Herald of Shalia" series. Also available as an audiobook. Sadly, fans are waiting for Audiobook 5 and Book 6 about a year now... Also (if not mentioned already): Kaizer Wolf's "Innocent Devil's Harem".

Anonymous

Technically there IS an ending to this story, but it was written by somebody else. You need to read "The Xin'arax Legend", which is available SOMEWHERE on this site (you will have to hunt for it). It introduces new characters and brings in the TSM characters at chapter 21 and concludes 9 years later with the final defeat of Xar'aziuth and the release of the astral plane.

Anonymous

For another story in the TSM universe, and including TSM characters read "The Xin'arax Legend", which can be found SOMEWHERE in the comments list.

Unctadsk

My dear, here most of the persons can pay 5 to 10 $ per month without batting eyes. That is not the point. But when some one said continuously over 6 months time that he will produce to at least 4000 persons (@ 36000$) giving different reasons and then goes silent, either he is in serious trouble or everybody have right to shout. It is croud mentality boss. All over the world. Please understand.

Anonymous

If only you realised how annoying your comments are Michael.

Anonymous

Yeah, keep forgetting the unfinished July, must help your narrative. Somehow. But that is fine, what will you say in 4 days?

Greg Hill

Mike Cropo's...Wolves and Dragons...available on SOL prem. it's a good read although it wasn't quite finished before the Author died...actually it's very very good...and very very long...but never a dull moment...It's in 5 extremely long volumes, and it covers everything, and the main protagonist becomes almost godlike with his advancing physic abilities, and voyages of discovery...Martin Leonidas, son of the Spartan king Leonidas from the movie 300, the Lycavorian superman, with 6 Queens, along with his son Androcles Leonidas, and his 6 mates...Vampires, Lycans, Elves, Cat people, Akruxians, sentinent dragons, etc. etc...excellent read!

Greg Hill

The volume titles are Volume 1: Of Eden and Elves,....Volume 2: A Spartan's War,....Volume 3: Discovery,....Volume 4: True Beginnings,...Volume 5: Revelations...The overall title is "Wolves and Dragons Of The Blood", and the 5 volumes are complete books in themselves but each volume leads into the next volume...

Pana Napoleon

Tefler, love your story. Get better and when your ready to return to John and his girls, we will be here for you and them. Thanks for letting us join in their tale.

Anonymous

If this is really what Tefler ails? Why didn’t he come clean? Or is this something that someone has written to get of Tefler’s back? If he doesn’t come clean himself, I consider this as a lot of hogwash. He has the audacity to call people who have supported him, without complain up until the 3rd placeholder. Where he started to find stories & excuses, real or not after a while nobody believed them anymore. He better put some money aside since this is also fraud in the UK, and I’m sure some will ask a payback. As long as he does not come clean, I don’t believe anything anymore enough has been said and he ignores them.

Unresolved Plots (edited)

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2023-10-29 04:57:54 William Wallace, you use the first 2 1/2 lines of your post you arrive at the conclusion that what you have read from others claiming to know about Tefler's status is not true. Then the next part of your post complaining about what they have written about Tefler...the stuff you don't believe!! The last bit of your post repeats that you don't believe what has been written!! Which leads me to the conclusion that you could be a speech writer for Trump!!
2023-10-28 19:28:30 William Wallace, you use the first 2 1/2 lines of your post to arrive at the conclusion that what you have read from others claiming to know about Tefler's status is not true. Then the next part of your post complaining about what they have written about Tefler...the stuff you don't believe!! The last bit of your post repeats that you don't believe what has been written!! Which leads me to the conclusion that you could be a speech writer for Trump!!

William Wallace, you use the first 2 1/2 lines of your post to arrive at the conclusion that what you have read from others claiming to know about Tefler's status is not true. Then the next part of your post complaining about what they have written about Tefler...the stuff you don't believe!! The last bit of your post repeats that you don't believe what has been written!! Which leads me to the conclusion that you could be a speech writer for Trump!!

Anonymous

Well Unresolved Plots, thanks for putting your TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) on full display. Thanks for showing us your true colors. You could have attacked W squared without politics. Are you a Harvard, U of Penn, George Washington University supporter too?

Michael carney

I voiced something similar. Unable to remember the other author who had posted here a number of 3SM associated stuff. Just found him on a linked discord. 2ndAndrocentric is the writer and has posted on discord fan page. Not sure of it all his writings from here are there.

Anonymous

The problem is that there is no information out there at all at the moment. Is Tefler ill? Is he dead? Is he incommunicado? In jail? Suffering from writers block? Bored with writing the story? Pick your poison. At last count, over the past year Tefler has personally had 4 serious illnesses, according to posts on Patreon. In addition, his dad has died, his wife has been ill, then broken her arm, the roof has caved in, everyone has been sick with Covid etc etc etc. Now all of that might well be completely true. The one thing that M56S said that makes sense is "if a Parrot says something, it is not the bird's 'opinion', but the one teaching it the words". Well at the moment we only have the words that Tefler has written to explain the lack of content over the past year. M56S has said on many occasions that Tefler has been very ill, to give the guy a break etc etc etc. But M56S is of course, only a parrot ... repeating stories that Tefler has told him. Let's hope they are the truth!

Steven

His political views don't take away from his observations of W squared of which I agree with. I also vote for the truce.

Unresolved Plots

I'm from the UK Vince, so I haven't got a clue what point you are trying to make referencing US colleges? But if you are labeling me as someone who thinks Trump is a bully, grifter, racist, fraudster etc... then you are correct, I do. What Trump is is obvious if you have the ability to think critically. You are correct that I didn't need to bring up politics to make my point and that was really not my intention, I was criticizing Trump the person, not his politics (which fyi I can't stand)! Fyi, I also can't stand Hillary Clinton and her politics either! The reason I mentioned Trump is as I was writing my post I was struck by William Wallace jumping from one position to another opposite position and back again in the space of a few sentences and it reminded me of the way Trump in particular does the same incoherent contradictory thing constantly. e.g. Just the other day when Trump left the courtroom in New York and had a rant to reporters about being prevented from leaving to go campaigning because of said case he was forced to attend (which isn't true btw, because he does not have to attend if he doesn't want to)! Then casually telling a reporter as he walked away that he would not be attending court the next day because he was golfing!!! Or how about him complaining he has not been allowed a jury trial in the same case, when it was his own lawyers who didn't tick the box asking for a jury trial!! I could come up with many more examples of this, but this post would go on for ever if I did and I think I have made my point.

Unresolved Plots

@Justin Webb I believe it is Kin Asidi. Links to there fanfic can be found on the Tefler Disord, of which they are a member, here https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord

Kensyi

Oh, I thought of another story like that is in resolved, the outer rim, also the Kintark. Ummm, what else?

Kensyi

Also, the zombie spider queen, she is just kinda hanging out

Michael56Smith

UP, I do hope that someday (soon) you come to realize just how much you were brainwashed / lied to by the left-wing media, .... they are not our friends, they are our enemies, ... ;-l ttfn

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2023-10-30 11:29:54 I have been kicking around a time travel TSM story idea, where John wakes up in his old bedroom, in his grandparents' house, and 17 of his closest girls / wards / crew members are downstairs in the living room, ... mostly nude, .... great start to a story, ... and they go on to save the lives of many who were once lost, like Rachel's mom, ... :-) ttfn
2023-10-30 10:05:56 .550: I have been kicking around a time travel TSM story idea, where John wakes up in his old bedroom, in his grandparents' house, and 17 of his closest girls / wards / crew members are downstairs in the living room, ... mostly in the nude, .... great start to a story as he disarms Grandpa Don Blake from defending his home, and introduces both Don and Eva to all the girls, ... and John quickly passes out many of his large sized T-shirts to the girls, because the old house is kinda drafty, ... -- and our heroes go on to save the lives of many who were once lost, like Rachel's mom, ... :-) ttfn

.550: I have been kicking around a time travel TSM story idea, where John wakes up in his old bedroom, in his grandparents' house, and 17 of his closest girls / wards / crew members are downstairs in the living room, ... mostly in the nude, .... great start to a story as he disarms Grandpa Don Blake from defending his home, and introduces both Don and Eva to all the girls, ... and John quickly passes out many of his large sized T-shirts to the girls, because the old house is kinda drafty, ... -- and our heroes go on to save the lives of many who were once lost, like Rachel's mom, ... :-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

Michael, I think you need to reread my post above, specifically the bit about Clinton. I like you believe the mainstream media lie about most thing and I am not brainwashed about Trump. I don't take the medias word about him as gospel, I have eyes and ears and watch and listen and like I said above, it is obvious to me who and what he is. He is not anyone's friend but himself, which we should see play out very soon when his family take to the stand in NY. Wouldn't be surprised that if they don't support him completely he turns against them! Ivanka is the most likely that this happens to imo, watch this space! One further point. The mainstream media is definitely not 'left wing'. It is owned and run by Billionaires like Murdoch and/or Corporations, so it is obvious whose interests they push and it is not the average person. At its core, the difference between left and right is economic and if that was all that was debated then the 'real' left would win every time, because there are many more economically average people than there are rich. Its simple maths. Which is were the media come in to play. They push agenda's like Extreme Woke Liberalism deliberately imho, to split the average majority apart so that they vote against their economic interests i.e. the more liberal minded voters vote Democrat and the less liberal Republican (if you live in the US). Neither party actually representing the majorities economic interests. The Democrat party is slightly more economically left wing than the Republican party, but not much e.g. Obamacare was a Mitt Romney plan that the Democrats stole. The last President to actually represent the vast majority of Americans economically was FDR and look how easily he won 4 elections, landslides the likes of which are not seen today! But the rich learnt their lesson and changed the rules when he died (term limits, in case another FDR came along), more media control and more lobbyists!

Anonymous

Does anyone have any information on how long Tefler’s recovery will last?

Michael56Smith

Has anyone heard whether he has even had his operation yet? (Discord info?) ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

If someone were to attempt to take this to court, the best they could hope for is breach of contract. Fraud requires intent, and I feel fairly confident that Tefler did not intend to get this far behind. And living with someone who has a chronic debilitating illness has taught me to have compassion for others who suffer. It’s not their fault. It’s not Tefler’s fault. If he offered me a refund I would decline it in hopes that it helped him to get to a place where he could write again. With that in mind, I have gotten much less after spending much more on other products, and even though I wish I had a new chapter to read, I will wait patiently until he can provide one. Every game on my phone is begging me to pay more for micro-transactions than I pay for a chapter, so as far as I’m concerned, I’m still getting a great deal. I look at it like when a great show ends on a cliffhanger and then goes on a summer hiatus. We are all just eagerly awaiting the next season of TSM.

Sceptre

I hate to say I told you so. But, I TOLD YOU SO! The simple truth is that Tefler used to enjoy, maybe even love writing TSM. He'd post a new chapter and, though there might be a few people critiquing his work, the majority of feedback was hyper positive and all you would read in chat was people posting ideas they had about the story or making suggestions. I can't imagine the high associated with creating a literary work and then being able to immediately share that with your fans and experience the euphoria of it being well received. Then, on top of that, making more money doing that, than you did in your 9 to 5 grind!! Enter adversity; home issues, health issues, family emergencies, missed deadlines and then sprinkle in the discontented "not so silent minority" Jones'ing for another hit and what do you get? While the bulk of supporters here understand that this type of work is a delicate entity and are happy to grant leeway in the extreme, there are others who employ a cold, dead, hard approach; Was my dollar taken? Then where's my chapter?! Nevermind that that very attitude expressed in chat would begin to erode the creative process that brings that story to life; that the ceaseless railing about being charged for something you didn't receive would actually create the mental barrier that's keeping the story trapped in the only mind that can deliver it. We all know that Tef got behind; he's aware of it, we're aware of it. Does he want this to be the case? Absolutely not! Do we want this to be the case? No, not a single one of us. But coming here to whine, and whine is the right word, serves no purpose. It's like grieving in video games. Does that serve any purpose? No. Does the player grieving gain anything? No. Does the person being greave'd gain anything? No. So, why do it? Don't know, I'm just here and you're there, I'm bored and there isn't anyone around to whom I'll be held accountable, so I'll just do whatever I want because I have no compassion or foresight. Well here we are, each of us individually down 5 bucks and no new chapters in sight; a regrettable and potential end to the TSM series looming. I remember warning about this months and months ago, hoping I was wrong, but knowing that some people don't need a reason to be negative and derisive but if you give them anything resembling a legitimate reason, they'll kick and scream until someone parts their beard to get the nipple back in their mouth. Please, please, don't feign that your concern is that Tefler was paid 1000's of dollar's for product undelivered and that you're concerned FOR all of those people, because you, the very one making that argument, are the same one standing over the smoldering remains of that level 1 newb "just because" and if there had been a way for you to get their money in the process, you would have. I'm reminded of the Emperor in Gladiator (don't pretend like every single person in this chat didn't see that movie) where the Emperor said to Maximus, "There was once a dream that was TSM. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile."

Michael56Smith

I think that you have made a few points, but I 99% do NOT agree with you, ... ;-) ttfn

Unctadsk

F5 ..F5....

Anonymous

Interesting post sceptre. Most of it is complete rubbish of course, but it IS well written. As for myself, I started worrying about Tefler's dedication to serving his audience once he quit his day job. Too many times I've seen creative people turn their hobby into their job and then fail dismally, usually because either they or their family can't get it into their heads that this creative enterprise IS in fact their new job. And as a job, you need to be prepared to dedicate a certain amount of time and effort to getting it done. As for the money which has been paid to Tefler for chapters never delivered, lets just say that I've spent the last 40 or so years of my life investigating and prosecuting fraud, in all its flavours. There will always be those who say, "But its only a few dollars per person.... you can take the hit", but that neglects the fact that fraud is one of the few offences in life which demands pre-meditation. Anyone can kill another human being .... you just need to find the right motivation and push it hard, but not everyone can commit fraud on another. That takes a special kind of person. From your comments, you appear to be one of them!

Anonymous

Update: John, the girls and the Invictus win. The End.

MVFast

It’s not yet November 1st in California!!!! Hawaii gets a couple more hours on top of that!

Anonymous

The problem for Tefler in the case of a fraud complaint is this: it has now been some 2 months since he has posted any update at all on this site. His previous comments always suggested that chapters had been planned out .... in the case of 164 the second half was practically written according to his post on 1 September. The prepayments did not occur because Tefler has his Patreon set to "subscription service" ..... he had to actively put through his claim each month to Patreon, knowing that he had supplied no product to his readers which would justify the payment. I've got over 40 years experience in investigating and prosecuting all kinds of fraud, from large scale bank fraud to staff and customer dishonesty. I would say that Tefler's case is surely not cut and dried. I would estimate perhaps a 50/50 chance of a criminal court conviction. Maybe a bit higher if it turns out that any of the excuses he gave us over the months was, umm .... lets just say "misguided".

Tom Ray

It is Nov 1 now....... I guess this Story is done....

MVFast

He’s just playing a November fool’s joke, right? Right? 😆

MVFast

I really do think he wants to go further than this. Is he late? Yes. To leave his story hanging permanently? Probably not. I guess we need to be patient.

MVFast

We hope you’re well (or getting there) too Tef.

TheEvilSmurf42

I am not sure we can call this abandoned just yet but I think 90 days officially qualifies as hiatus.

Anonymous

I thought the update was John wakes up aboard the Fools Gold from an incredible dream.

Unresolved Plots

Andrew, if you have investigated fraud for 40 years then I can't understand how you are so ignorant about the subject? If Tefler delivers these chapters at some point in the future then has he committed fraud? Patreon allowed Tefler to charge placeholders within its rules, so that is not fraud. Tefler has made a commitment to deliver those chapters he has charged for, so I don't see fraud there, unless he changes this stance. It is understandable that Tefler has not delivered in the last few months because he is ill. Would a fraud investigator open a case in this instance based on the facts we know? I very much doubt it. If you are not prepared to wait, have you tried simply contacting Tefler and asking for your money to be returned and your membership cancelled? If Tefler returns your money in this instance has he committed fraud (remembering that it was his stated intention to deliver those outstanding chapters to you)? Have any of the moaners tried this simple solution?

Sceptre

Micheal, is this post in response to what I posted? I'd be interested to hear where you disagree as I literally remember thinking as I was writing it, Michael56Smith will get what I'm saying even if it's not generally well received. Interesting that I could be so far off. I've come to find that where my mind goes on matters in general in life is very different to most people. Like I'm seeing things through a filter and everyone else sees the same thing but their take is so different it's dizzying.

Sceptre

Andrew, let's break this down a bit and, as you're the arbiter of the financial process for Patreon with 40 years of experience, perhaps you can shed considerable light on the topic after I pose my question. Patreon created a vehicle where a content creator may post their ideas, stories, pictures, and literally anything else they can legally upload to the internet and then charge a premium either by the posting, or by a fixed time period, monthly etc. While it's my understanding, and I'm sure it's yours too, that Tefler's intent in charging for a chapter was that he would "attach" an upload that in some way pertained to the story, and that that interaction would be the exchange. But the letter of the 'law', so to speak, allows him to charge for any post he creates here, does it not? I mean, it's what he's done and the buttons still worked for him when he clicked "bill" (or whatever it's called) and the funds rolled in. In fact, a lawyer could argue, that by typing in the wording of the post, he had in fact met the legal requirement that could constitute a legitimate exchange where-by he's entitled to compensation. Though Tefler wouldn't leave it at that, how would it in fact not constitute "posting" that created a billable event IF a) you agreed to pay by not cancelling your subscription, and b) the minimum requirements for a legally billable event were met because the "get paid" button worked? I understand the spirit of the unspoken contract we have with Tefler is what everyone's addressing, but honestly, there is no legal argument, right? Thank you for reading and sharing your insight and legal understanding in this matter.

Anonymous

Patreon no longer allows billing per piece/chapter. I was told by Past Master that a Creator starting a new account can only bill per month. Annabelle Hathorne has told me because creators like her and Tefler that are an existing nonconformance to the new billing policy don't get access to updated creative tools. I am sure there has been some pressure from Patreon on Tefler. Despite writers being delicate creative minds the issue here is a legal gray area that is being solved for future creators by a policy change. I myself have changed my tier levels and even dropped patronage for a time. I would love to see TSM continue but my best guess is that he is being forced by the platform to bring himself current before he can bill again.

Anonymous

hi Tefler, can you please provide a status update. how is your health? what are your plans? there are 5200+ followers waiting for news from you. you may be upset for some reason or another but there are lots of people waiting for news from you in silence.

Michael56Smith

.573: ... let's see, Tef's wife broke her arm back in August, .... and he has been helping with family stuff since, .... has he had his own health issue, his gallstone operation, taken care of yet, or putting it off? ... not to mention any recovery time he would then need, .... hummmm, ... two plus months, her arm should be better, but still in a cast, ... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

@Robert Patreon rules don't allow a creator on per post charges to change to monthly payments. If Tefler enquired about doing this at some point, which is likely imo, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Patreon who suggested to Tefler that he could post placeholders as an alternative. Seems unlikely to me that Tefler came up with the idea of placeholders independently without correspondence with Patreon. Why they don't allow an older creator to at least add monthly as a payment option I don't know? Makes no sense to me. I would happily transfer over to a monthly payment if it was an option on Patreon and I know many other people on here have expressed the same sentiment.

Stephen Paynter

I have just been listening to TSM again (auto-generated, but I'm weird, I've got use to the monotone delivery) and I've just got to the battle of Terra against the Kintark ... That is one fantastic battle. So gripping, and so many different interlocking parts. It is worth waiting for another chapter from anyone who can write like that !

Stephen Paynter

On another note, I've also been watching a reactor react to Battlestar Galactic, and I've just noticed how their fighters are just like the Terran fighters before they got Dana's upgrade. Also the Galactica, with the way it launches fighters is just like the TSM capitol carrier ships.

Anonymous

Thank you Tefler. Thanks for bringing me along on your journey to create something so warm and wonderful. If the story ends here, I will have nothing but fond memories of the universe you created. However, I suspect one day John and friends will be back in our lives with new adventures. Until then, health and happiness to all.

Who Me

Well - Where do you think Tefler got his ideas for the carriers from?

Michael56Smith

Hey Tim, don't give up yet, I think he just had to take a little time for himself and his family, ... for a writer, our Tef has never been a great communicator, ... I'm thinking that 2024 should be good for TSM, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael Cummings

I think that catchup August has turned into nothing November!?

Michael56Smith

.583: ... and after Tef's wife took the family camping to give him his catch-up time, she broke her arm, .... so, with her injury, and his gallstones, Tefler health issues abound, ... however, I think 2024 will be a wonderful year for TSM, just because Tef isn't done yet, ... ;-) ttfn

Damion Cocchi

You have to go back before FDR (who never represented the vast majority) the guy who made everyone's small depression into the Great Depression, doing the same exact interfering Hoover economic policies, then enforced hundreds of civil liberty violating laws..... the last POTUS to actual be a benefit to the US and all its citizens was Calvin Coolidge

Anonymous

Awww man this blows… holding out hope for November…

Stephen Paynter

Is that official? I thought I was so clever noticing the similarities ... it is like 2016 all over again ... I woke up to Americans having elected Trump as President, and I said to whoever would listen, "It is like the Americans have just given the Almanac to Biff ..." only to discover later, that Biff and Biff Tower in "Back to the Future II" was actually modelled on Trump! I guess I'm not as uniquely insightful as I like to think myself!!

Keepit simple

My advice to Tef would be ignore posts, finish 4.5 chapters previously promised and charged for, release all on same day, have one or two additional chapters written beyond that, promise one chapter 15th of next month after catching up and second chapter following month on 15th, stay at least a month ahead so he can guarantee hitting a deadline while leaving room for RL emergency. Take out pressure of deadline and get back to joy of story telling......nobody leaving that enjoys TSM. Will wait and look forward to TSM continuing.

MVFast

I wonder how hard we TSM fans have been hitting the Patreon web servers…

Anonymous

Hey Tef, and updates mate, as we are all waiting in eager anticipation!!!

Kensyi

I'm not going anywhere, but I will continue to come back and see if it has been updated. Another author I follow on here and back, hasn't posted a chapter since like 2016. Still have my support and backing. Just kinda hoping they will post again some day.

Anonymous

Tefler, I don't need a chapter, I just need an update that you're still alive and well.

MVFast

I’ve only been checking a few times a day. Honest! (Well, actually five to ten). Sigh.

Anonymous

Please give us a update.

Anonymous

Some time back someone had posted a link to the TSM by Telfer Discord site. I used that , found the discussions and tagged it so I could go back to it since I already have an account on Discord. I have attempted return to that site a few times and I end up getting redirected to the generic login page. When I try to do a search for the TSM page the search results indicate no such site. So, is it gone or am I not entering the data correctly? I am fearing the worse since having had the same health issue I know that if gall stones are not addressed quickly the gall bladder will turn on the rest of the bodies systems. Anyone else having this problem (the finding the TSM site)?

jdg45

If you join Discord you will see an update on Tefler. Sadly a chapter may be a while...

Who Me

Here is an updated invite to the server - https://discord.gg/8NJNfaj2 It expires in 7 days

Anonymous

I had a bunch of there was an update you'd share it. Turns out I was right. There's nothing on the discord.

jdg45

Well if you looked there is stuff there. And mentioned here earlier too... Basically it seems Tefler is taking a break for health and is pissed off with all the wingers about precharging. I did not like the ethics but I am over it and for a few dollars spent I want the story to continue.

Anonymous

Not able to join or view the TSM discord due to an age restriction limit. Guess this happens on some Apple devices. Can someone please summarize Tefler’s update here

jdg45

Cignal 2mo You guys seem not to be able to read between the lines. When Tefler announced above that he wouldn't be pre charging for chapters, meant that his has found an alternate source of income. So he is going back to writing part time. I don't know this for certain but it is my hunch. If that is true we will see less output from him as his main goal is to support his family, not the bunch of self centered entitled people here.

Jedi Khan

I imagine there isn't actually an update from Tefler, otherwise he'd have put it here on Patreon as well.

Newnotsure

I think all Apple users get this

tony

my prayers for tefler's good health and resolution of his health problems go out to him (gall bladder problems are no joke, mine was within hours of rupture and killing me when i had surgery to remove it)

Unctadsk

Dear Friends, Tefler to his time off before battle with Drakkars due to writer's block. He couldn't decide how to express the battle. Same happened on battle of Tera. Now this battle is also very crucial and he have taken already 3 months plus time. Let's hope for the best that new chapter's start coming quick as Christmas/New year gift. Other way is foulmouthing which is not acceptable for anybody's health and mind. Ciao.... Njoy...

Stephen Paynter

Still listening to my auto-generated audiobook of TSMs - now up to the Kirrix invasion of Charon ... I love the Fat Tony story, it both helps one to really understand what a Kirrix attack would be like, and is a great redemption arc for Tony. Again, going over the story really helps to underline how great TSM is, and how much it is worth waiting for a new chapter from such a talented author. Also, there are some fascinating loose-ends with regard to the alien species in the Unclaimed Wastes - are those the same species that put the clever ancient electronic defence watcher in the Brimorian networks that we met chapters earlier? I want more! Answers please!

Anonymous

Another month, and still nothing. Not even a short sentence here to let everyone know what is going on. Something like taking a break, see you all next year? Writers block extend to being so lazy to all the people paying to read your content, you can’t even be bothered to write a sentence. Really pissing people off when you say next chapter being released in a couple days and yet not a single word here since then. Discord is meaningless. Everyone should get a refund on the money they paid out and zero services for that money. It’s fraud at this point!!! Return everyone’s money. Those still sticking around can pay when the content is finally released someday.

James St. Clair

And so ends a really great saga, after ripping off his patrons for many thousands of dollars . So many storylines left hanging, so many great characters in suspended animation. What a waste.

anand srivastava

They have to start creating a body for Athena also. For 2 full fledged Proginator girls in his harem.

anand srivastava

The biggest unresolved plot is Achonin and the mechanism for creating the shroud. It will be another 50 chapters before we get there.

anand srivastava

I think Tefler is waiting to complete those 4.5 chapters plus a buffer of a 2-3 chapters before he starts posting. If he has also started working full time, then that will delay the development of new chapters. He used to take around 20 days average for each chapter. Now that will be more than a month (maybe 2) for 1 chapter. So I guess we are in for a wait of at least 6 months, possibly a year. I will have read this tome twice by that time probably. It is an amazing story. The character and story growth in this story is unparalleled.

Unresolved Plots

Why not just simply message Tefler and get that refund you want yourself? Patreon rules are very clear that you can do that. I am prepared to wait until Tefler is ready to post. Please don't post an unsolicited message on everyone's behalf, because you only speak for a very small (but loud) minority of the more than 4000+ Patrons. If you and the 20 or 30 others who post messages like yours followed my advice, got their refund and then exited the building, I'm sure that you would then be happy and the vast majority who have to endure your messages would also be happy too!

Unresolved Plots

@James Unless Tefler posts the owed chapters, then your message becomes meaningless drivel, if it isn't already that!

Unresolved Plots

Lol. I guess this is the result of Trump, were people don't except basic facts. According to recorded history FDR won every election in what is commonly called a landslide: 1932 - 42 States to 6, 1936 - 46 States to 2, 1940 - 38 States to 10 and 1944 - 36 States to 12. The one election Coolidge won was in 1924 - 35 states, which according to my maths is 1 less state than FDR's worst showing. FDR's biggest victories came in the midst of the Great Depression, which started in 1929 with the Wall Street Crash, under Hoover, but had Coolidge's earlier policies (such as the McFadden Act) as the catalyst. The economic recovery was brought about by FDR's New Deal policies, hence the reason he was (and still is) so venerated.

Michael56Smith

.616: Bad James. and Sad James, .... no, YOU will not be missed, ... so long and good luck, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.617: ... or possibly he might just be waiting to recover from his gallbladder operation, ... If he has even had it yet, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Thoughts and prayers

Anonymous

I hate to think this but if I was still alive I wouldn't leave my readers hanging this long. I Pray IM wrong.

Anonymous

I will be very happy with a nice little christmas chapter this year and so i will give a little advice to all of you: Dońt give up on Tefler, he will be backkkk :-)

Anonymous

Ahhh maybe…..

Myrnalin

After Patroen allowed us to block other users, this feed has been pure positivity and encouragement... And I have not blocked more than 10 in total. 10 People who ruins it for the rest of us. I strongly suggest blocking the whiners.

Anonymous

Has anyone heard from Tef ?

Greg Hill

It seems that since a small number of vocal misfits, who seemingly doesn't like fraud-like activity, as opposed to some who don't mind it whatsoever, has pissed him off so much that he will make everyone( everyone mind you) bow down first, toe the line, then incline to the Maliri Emperor...before deigning to let them back into his (semi)good graces... otherwise he will penalize his own wallet to show them who's in charge here. Is that the right take for this situation?...couldn't be any weirder if it was written in a book!

Anonymous

Im suffering withdrawals. Any recommendations?

Myrnalin

You mean Michael56Smith ? I dont think what he is doing is whining, he is in character

Anonymous

“A True History” by StarFleet Carl is a large story I’ve read which I found very entertaining! I got it off StoriesOnLine. Also, you could try “Arlene and Jeff” by RoustWriter which is another very large Story which I found very entertaining from the same source! Enjoy…

Anonymous

Dream Drive. Excellent long story, but you’ll be quite disappointed as it just ends. But it’s a great ride up until it falls off the cliff!

Anonymous

when ! will 164 be out in full

Anonymous

Sadly Starfleet Carl passed away, but his son posted the remaining chapters of book 5, it was a fun read.

Anonymous

Not free, but Backyard Starship is a fun read, available on Amazon, 18 books so far.

Anonymous

I sure hope I'm on your list of blocked posters Myrnalin. To paraphrase Groucho Marx, I really wouldn't want to be a member of a group that requires your endorsement ;)

Anonymous

If you're into cyberpunk, Ghost in the City from Seras's Writing Corner on patreon, it's also on Royal Road.

Anonymous

The guy who wrote Dream Drive has a trilogy irl ( 2 published and the 3rd to be published next year).

Anonymous

So true, what do we really know? is Tef ok? is he alive? Anyone got anything?

Anonymous

164 was partially fulfilled. 165-168 was full sunk-cost scammed. Made people not want to unsubscribe since they'd be leaving money on the table. Multiply that by the vast group of subscribers, and he's made off with a great deal of money he's not entitled to. Up until now, I've stayed quiet, but he's made it clear he's decided to scam people as much as he can before alienating them. I would start initiating tickets with Patreon if I were you. He's made it clear he cares nothing for subscribers, and he's making a mad dash for the exit. I didn't want this, I was enjoying the story, but we have to deal with reality.

Unresolved Plots

If the only reason you are staying is because you are owed money, why do you not just message Tefler and ask to be refunded for the unpublished chapters and your account to be cancelled? Patreon rules are clear that this is an option everyone has.

Keepit simple

Anything from BurntRedstone on Lit. The Runesmith Chronicles on Lit. All free and great reads.

Myrnalin

Ive only had the ability to block for like a month and I have not gone back to check so your still not on my list @andrew finlayson

Dan

Your time being a petty, feckless, Ne'er-do-well will be appreciated elsewhere. Quit trying to cause issues between Tef and Patreon, all it can do is irritate us fans and him. Possibly encouraging him to quit posting early access here.

Anonymous

Groucho Marx once famously said that he wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have him as a member. Close but no cigar. Thanks for the tip Myrnalin.

Tom Ray

He may no longer be with us. If he was and something is wrong, He would have updated us by now. If he is gone, it is a sad day.

Anonymous

I have really enjoyed Tefler’s story and wish him and his family well. I have not subscribed more than I can afford, so I see no reason to be worked up and simply hope that he resolves his health issues successfully and I am thankful for the enjoyment. I’ve already had with best wishes, Douglas.

Myrnalin

I like how you Slaughter andrew f with correcting his quote LUL @Stuhero

Anonymous

I am afraid you might be correct. I will hope for the best and say a prayer.

bjcreek

When I come back here to see what's going on I'm getting a first post from several years ago. Before, when I entered the site, it started at the newest post. From Tefler that was July 31, but the comments were current. Now I have to reload the site from within to get back to a first notice from July 31, Tefler's, with current comments beneath. However, I'm now wondering if more current stuff isn't being loaded for some reason. Anyone else experiencing this? I have made no changes to my status, or anything at all. Thanks.

Anonymous

The man put so much work into it up until Summer - it makes me wonder if he either is too sick to even use a computer, or has passed away. There are other things it could be to cause a radical halt also, and none of them are good for him. IDK, but it shows something is very wrong.

Vizth Hal

That's assuming the whiners haven't already driven him off completely, that's what I'm scared of

Anonymous

Even though I expressly said I was paraphrasing Groucho. Tough crowd here ;)

Michael carney

And I think there could be some truth to his history. So many places on all these different archaeology shows that we know there is something there but the authority won't let it be investigated. I believe the conspiracy theory that the old guard won't consider anything but their version of history.

Myrnalin

thats the problem, "paraphrase" does not mean what you think it does.

Justin Webb

when Teflers subscriber count was still listed he was approaching 8,000 Who knows what it is now. But even if everyone gave only 1$ that's alot of money for 1 chapter that could be written on a weekend or two. I find it hard to believe anyone would just stop writing with that much money on the table. (no matter how much shit fans through at him)

bjcreek

Thanks for the info. I have to log in, then go to another site I'm a patron of, and when I come back all is well. Otherwise it starts me at a post from October of 2016. Weird, but apparently just me. Thanks, again!

Anonymous

On my iPhone using Google chrome, there is a dropdown underneath the menu letting me choose latest posts - Newest to Oldest or vice versa. You must have accidentally chosen to see oldest post first

bjcreek

Thanks so much! Good idea, but I've got it set on Latest posts. I guess I'm just going to get used to moving to another creator's site and then back again to get it all squared away. Until next time. But it's not a big deal since there is a work-around. When I first saw it showing Chapter 58 first I thought, "Well, that's it. The site is being taken down." But it's just me, so all's well, I guess. Again, thanks to both of you for taking the time to help. I truly appreciate it.

Son of Lan Mandragoran

Tefler! I really hope all is well for you. Please just drop us a simple "Hi, I'm still alive!" I mean I named my 4 Blue Ball ships in No Man's Sky after you.... Ok, I chuckled on that one, but I really did ( Tefler's Dream and Tefler's Idea). Still, I do wish you and your family health, peace and love on this holiday Season.

TheEvilSmurf42

Okay, so three things that I don't recall being covered in the story but have always been ??? to me: trival to biggest issues 1. Piercings - We know what happens to tattoos when they go through the change but what about piercings. I doubt Alyssa or Dana would have any given where they grew up but Calara and Jehanna would almost certainly have some given that they are cultural for both Latino and Indian cultures. Also "bad girl" Rachel didn't have a belly button or nipples pierced? Hard to believe. But what happens with them. Do they seal tight over the piercing and basically lock in in place. Do they heal and push them out of the skin like splinters or something. I've just always been curious. 2. What happens if a male accidentally (or purposefully) drinks a progenitor's cum. I figure one of three things would happen: a) Nothing b) They die c) prolonged exposure to the DNA altering substance turns them into a woman. I have to imagine accidental exposure has happened and maybe a more scientifically minded Progenitor experimented. I assume Mal'Nerak (sic) would have known given his deep genetic knowledge. 3. Lastly the baby craziness of the entire Invictus crew. They have to realize they are immortal and more than likely their children won't be except for the Nymphs, and maybe Alyssa. John has already stated he wants nothing to do with sleeping with his daughters (fair). So the mothers and John will have to watch their children die over and over again. That sounds like some level of hell that I didn't know existed.

Myrnalin

1: If metal is stuck in it the body they wont heal, it has to be extracted then it will heal, I remember it being explained around Sakuras healing 2: No clue I bet it does nothing 3: I think you are forgetting Rachel, with her abilities she can reset a body to a healthy state. It should not be required more than 1 time each 30-40 year

TheEvilSmurf42

The whole Rachel thing is valid but to extend life so far. It's never been explicitly stated it can do so indefinitely or reverse the effects of actual aging. They wouldn't have offered Lynette a place in John's harem if they could keep Charles alive indefinitely.

Anonymous

pretty sad to realize Teifler could be gone from us. He was doing some kind of medical issue last I recall. I really thought this story would stay with me for ever. I find the missing updates a real loss. I really adore the storyline and the characters. Hopefully the author is alright.

MVFast

Hmmm. Just thought of something. Except for oral, was John a virgin before Alyssa? He was always worried about pregnancy, and finding super sized condoms might’ve been difficult… I went back and re-read the beginning. He didn’t make love to her until after Alyssa’s first shopping spree. It’s not stated or implied that he did the deed beyond having one night stands. After a blow job, the woman would be knocked out, and before giving him a blow job, few women would be able to handle him. He’d not be able to enter a woman’s womb without hurting her.

MVFast

Hopefully, he’s just recharging his mental batteries for the next half of the story.

fay cannon

No, he was not a virgin, but he never had any repeat girlfriends.

TheEvilSmurf42

I don't think they have. However, given that everyone's power has consistently grown from continuous sex with John it isn't unreasonable to assume that Rachel's power would not only grow in power but in scope. Maybe she can't do it yet but who knows what a 5, 10, 1000 years of Progenitor cum can do.

Anonymous

Tefler, trying to stay positive here. Since your last chapter was posted, I have turned 65, retired and have been waiting for all of these placeholders to be posted with updated chapters.

Michael56Smith

Oh yeah, happy 65th, I turned 67 a few months ago, ... similar boat, .... hang in there, Tef and TSM will return, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael Cummings

Since the last chapter posted I have had my 77th birthday

bjcreek

Congrats to all the birthday people! I just turned 73 a couple months ago. Keep checking in once in awhile. Less and less often. Hope all is well with everyone!

Anonymous

What's going on? It has been almost 3 months since last chapter

TheEvilSmurf42

it's been 3 months since his last update but he hasn't posted any writing since July 31st so it's actually closer to 4 months. I figure it's probably one of three things 1) There is something wrong with his health as he has been having health issues for about the past year. Gall Bladder surgery isn't super invasive but any surgery even the most minor like dental runs the risk of serious even fatal complications so hopefully it's not that. 2) He is finishing up all the chapters at once and will drop them all at once but that is a lot of writing and will take a significant amount of time. Especially as he is likely to drop a paid chapter with it. 3) He just burned out and abandoned it entirely. Hopefully it's 2 but I don't know. It could be something not even on this list I just think these are the most likely

MVFast

We’re a bunch of old guys here. 🙁 I’m not 65 yet, but I am closing in fast.

Myrnalin

I said think to be polite, the crew talked about it already, around the time the new Fleet admiral joined, she had the option to be healed by either John or Rachel.

Newnotsure

Here’s a silly question does Patreon charge a basic fee for normal use or is it only the percentage of what they bring in? Just wondering Like a monthly maintenance fee, whether you use it or not

Michael56Smith

Yeah, I vote for door number #2 also, .... plus, Tef likely will need a few weeks/months of recovery time after his 'free' healthcare Gallbladder surgery, ... and his spouse needs to get her (broken) arm fully mended too, ... (and yeah, #1 and #3 worry me too) ... ;-) ttfn

Myrnalin

You mean for the creator? I think not, that sounds like a great way to chase talent away

TheEvilSmurf42

That was just healing though. She would have been able to walk again and been up and about but she wouldn't have become a lioness from it. She wouldn't have been young or beautiful just healthy. The advantages of Lynette going with John over Rachel were considerably more. Rachel has healed her father, Admiral Harris and Calara's parents and while she has added about 20 healthy years to their life spans none of them are actually any younger. They are just in better health. Maybe in her current state if she healed them every day, week, month she could considerably prolong it but it's not refreshing their DNA like John's application of cum does so eventually they will succumb to age. Again unless her powers evolve further.

TheEvilSmurf42

most broken bones only require 6-8 weeks to fully mend plus a little bit of physical therapy. It's been about 16 weeks + since he announced the break so I assume she is mostly if not completely healed by this point.

Anonymous

Hmmm ... "express the meaning of (something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity:"

Myrnalin

It sounds like you havent read the story. Im done think what you want

TheEvilSmurf42

I have read through this entire story twice and recently. Maybe you should refresh yourself.

Michael56Smith

--Possible Tefler timeline (much guesswork) ... Well, she broke her arm back in August, when she took the family camping to give Tef time to write his 'catch-up' chapters, .... so, then Tef's free time was ended, ... and I also suspect that he might have delayed his own Gallbladder procedure until she was all better, ... so he likely didn't get to his surgery until sometime in October, or even November (scheduling), ... (and with the many scary possible complications brought on by the delay -- whew!), ... therefore I'd expect that he might only have recently begun, or be only part way through his recovery time, ... I hope all went well for him, ... so this year's TSM writing time was drastically cut short, but 2024 will be much better (fingers crossed) ,,,, -- GET WELL SOON TEF! ;-) TTFN

Greg Hill

lol...Matt, seems like they sent the British Bulldogs after you, the whole "p-funk mob"... the latest installation of "The Cult Strikes Back." lmao!

GH

No status updates for 2 months. Worrying.

Anonymous

Here's an actual update. The Philadelphia Eagles beat the Kansas City Chiefs this evening 21-17 and improved their NFL best record to 9-1. Fly Eagles Fly (see? That was an actual update).

jdg45

Chapter 004 "You said you had never had any long term girlfriends before?" she [Alyssa] asked directly. "Were they all one night stands?" John nodded tentatively. "Yes. With my unusual parentage, I figured it was probably for the best," he answered, repeating his earlier explanation.

Calvin Whitewood

For what it's worth, here is my opinion :-

Unresolved Plots

@fay cannon. I don't think you can say yes or no for certain. John did say that all the females he was with for these one night stands became unconscious upon sampling his cum, like we have seen happen the first time with all of his girls in the story. If all of these one night stands decided to give him oral first, then unless he then had sex with them while they were unconscious (which would be rape imo) he was still a virgin until Alyssa. Then it comes down to how likely it was that all of these women decided to give him oral first? My guess is that due to his size, giving oral first was quite likely. So imo, it is more likely than not that John was still a virgin until Alyssa.

Anonymous

After the first of September I started checking daily, for any news. Since October I started to check weekly, now I’m going te reduce it to once a month, I support other reliable writers on Patreon. These are writers that have a day job, and still produce a chapter a day!! I don’t care what Telfer’s problems are he has been payed and did not produce anything, so this entitled me to either insist on Tefler producing what he owns us, or payback his illegal received money. I know there will be several people that will put me on a blacklist, who cares they love to cuddle Tefler I don’t.

Cignal

If any of you guys saw how Tefler responded in Discord to the Literotica whiners when they protested that they were 3 chapters behind Patreon and they though that he should release to Literotica at the same time as Patreon, his lack of production in Patreon can be easily explained. Now Literotica is about 20 chapters behind Patreon. Since he got pissed at about a dozen whiners here I suspect we won't see anything until at least next summer. Here is a link to his post about Literotica. It is in #general so everyone should have access. https://discord.com/channels/352559623724728339/352559623724728340/778589132267454474 Pay attention to point 6. Reader entitlement.

Anonymous

Your link does not seem to work. I would like to read it IF I could access it.

Cignal

You may need a Discord account to be able to see it.

Justin Webb

the difference is literotica readers are reading for free we all paid money in advance. that is why people started complaing, he would pre-charge and say he was going to be caught up by the end of the month but then 1 pre-charge became 2 and so on. Now add on the fact he has just disapeared and people feel taken advantage of.

Unresolved Plots

So have you actually asked Tefler for your money back, or are you just saying you want your money back out loud...again? I don't think Tefler reads the comments often if at all, so if you really do want to be repaid and your membership cancelled then just email Tefler directly and ask for that. If he refuses, then you have a legitimate argument that you are being kept as a Patron against your will. If you have still not taken this step since posting essentially the same message weeks ago (knowing Tefler has probably not seen it), then I don't really see why you have posted the same demand here, other than for attention.

Unresolved Plots

@ Justin Webb, while it is fine for you and anyone else to have these feelings wrt Tefler and post them, the option is open to you or anyone else to email Tefler and ask to be refunded. Patreon rules are quite clear on this (in the first couple of paragraph's of their refund policy, it is not hard to find). The problem that I and others have with people complaining is the ones who seem to be on a crusade to hound Tefler away and post things like "we demand a refund" as if they are speaking for everyone, when in reality it is for a very small minority. Nb// I'm not accusing you or the majority of people who have complained about the wait of being in this group! Those people have the simple option I have posted above to get refunded and leave, yet choose not to use it, which makes me think why? The only conclusions I can come up with is that they really just want to shout loud and be heard by someone. Or perhaps it makes them feel important, thinking they are standing up for everyone, like a civil rights champion who is creating a movement for people to get behind. But the reality is it is just a few dollars that most have paid, for 4 1/2 chapters of an erotic story. These whiners are no MLK or Ghandi, but more like the Karen's on youtube videos, demanding to speak to the manager whilst having temper tantrum's like little children. The vast majority of his 4300+ Patron's (I've replied to your other post with a link to my source btw) never comment, so it seems are ok to wait for Tefler to get better and to start posting again. Hopefully that will be soon.

Unresolved Plots

Getting back to the purpose of the comments section, to discuss the story...My prediction for what the next 4 1/2 chapters will entail is as follows:- 164 part 2. The build up to the final battle with Gahl'kalgor i.e. The Invictus will return to Kythshara to prepare defences and come up with a plan to isolate Gahl'kalgor and try to save his Thralls. 165. The battle with Gahl'kalgor and his forces will imo probably take up most of this chapter. 166. Imo most of this chapter will revolve around the resurrection of Faye (maybe involving a psychic battle like the ones in Jade's mind or the one with John's guide), with Kythshara and other Maliri space secrets being explored further 167. I think this will be an upgrade/repair chapter spent mostly at the Star Forges, with the Invictus/Raven/Valkyrie being upgraded and possibly other new tech being built. 168. I believe they will then head to Brimor to deal with Athgiloi and the Brimorian's, which will lead them to find out about Tom Walker's setup and spur them to help him. We will have lots of side stories within these chapters i.e. The ongoing Walker trial, sending out Ward forces with assigned tasks like securing the remaining battle stations, evacuating/relocating the males, securing the Hyperwarp gate at Arcadia, collecting the stranded Galkiran's and their damaged ships, continuing the relocation of the Abandoned, Lynette's issues with High Command and the Outer Rim etc... There could be a spanner thrown in this if Xar acts quickly following Gahl'kalgor's defeat, assuming he is defeated! e.g. If he immediately sends another Progenitor to attack Shroud space, or perhaps Larathyran or Galkiran space, then John's priorities and my predictions might change!

Stephen Paynter

Any ideas on how Gahi'kalgor can be isolated from his thralls? He either has to be defeated quickly, before he can drain them ... he should be vulnerable to a shot with one of Spark's runic munitions. An unexpected head shot might work, but would probably be anti-climatic. ... Alternatively, Allysa could put a block in his matriarch's mind, breaking his connection with her ... a little bit like she did with John's mother.

Unresolved Plots

I've made a prediction on Discord about this. https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord if you want to join. Lots of discussions have been had there about this and every other TSM topic you can think of! Assuming the Invictus wormholes to Kythshara, they will have about 10 hours to prepare, assuming Gahl'kalgor is following normal a Progenitor attack pattern i.e. allowing his Thrall forces to attack first, meaning no reason for him to wormhole ahead of them. I think Gahl'kalgor will send at least one fleet led by Valeria, to attack Genthalas, meaning Edraele/Luna will face off against Valeria on the station (I'm assuming she will board it). Gahl'kalgor and his remaining forces will then walk into a trap at Kythshara (the Larathyran fleets should be about the same or even greater in number than the remaining Galkiran fleets and they also have the planets defence platforms, which should swing the advantage firmly in John's favour). I think John will propose a psychic battle on the planets surface and Gahl'kalgor now realising he will lose a space battle will agree to this (though he will likely break the agreement and have his forces attack anyway at some point)! My guess to how they isolate him from his network to prevent him husking thralls is a psychic inhibitor, but one turned up to 11. We know that they are not powerful enough to inhibit a Progenitor, but it is my guess that the one that was on the mech that attacked John in the pyramid and the one at the bunker under the palace on Valadan are more powerful than normal Progenitor inhibitor's. Why would Mael have installed them otherwise, knowing a Progenitor can break a normal inhibitor easily? I think Dana will find the design in Mael's plans and they will build another, but John, with his immense reserves can overcome it and Gahl'kalgor cannot. So I think they do the reverse to what Larn'kelnar did to John, isolate Gahl'kalgor with an inhibitor, then John kills him and he can't husk his Thralls.

Anonymous

Yep, email a dude who's not even bothering to confirm whether he's alive or dead about a refund. Let's see how long that email goes unread...... Can we come back to reality and use common sense or are we just going to continue living in fantasy land.. 100% sure people have already done this just to see if they'd get a response from the author and not some weird ass automated patreon response for inactivity.........

Anonymous

The reason why this makes no plausible sense is he was PAID by everyone here....If you're over on lite crying for free shit then cry more but there is no fkin excuse for this bro he could easily just type A L I V E and nothing else, granted there will be more questions but this ain't a way to bolster trust in a community that was fracturing nor is it what he wrote about the latest installment being days away........

Michael56Smith

... very interesting possibility with the eldritch inhibitor, .... but, NO killing Gahl'kalgor, and NO giving 'under the Shroud' intel to Xar'aziuth with the death of one of his Progenitors (and the reporting into his evil master), .... John and the Maliri, at present, have too many weaknesses for the evil Devour to exploit, .... --- I had been thinking that John's mighty rune blade, Kyth'yindathy, and maybe some aid from Sakura's twin blades too, will drain all of Gahl'kalgor's eldritch Mojo, as well, I am a bit torn on whether to keep Valeria on as Matriarch or not, .... can she be retrained / civilized? -- And Tef almost always Zigs when I was thinking Zag, ... oh well, ... ;-) ttfn

Unresolved Plots

I'm sure this dumb excuse for not trying the simplest method for getting your money back sounded clever to you when you wrote it...but it isn't. Its a very stupid excuse that a child would be embarrassed to make and reveals exactly why you post messages you do, you just want to whine. You say you don't ask because he 'might' not acknowledge it lmfao. It works both ways dumbo, he 'might' grant your request, or is that what you are afraid of? You do realise that if Tefler did ignore a request like this you then have grounds to take it further with Patreon? Common sense tells me that no one who is complaining about wanting their money back has made this simple request, because not one single person is on here or has been on here shouting and moaning that they have had a refund request refused by Tefler, which I'm sure they would not be shy about proclaiming if that was the case!! But continue living in your fantasy land where everyone is requesting their money back from Tefler who is refusing and Patreon are doing nothing about it!!

Anonymous

Is there any actual news on Tefler or is the comments just speculation and/or people wanting money back?

Unresolved Plots

@Twigret No news as far as I am aware. My hope is that with Xmas approaching in just over a month, Tefler might want to get a chapter payment. This would mean that he would have to release all the outstanding chapters and 169. Obviously that is a lot of work and would only be realistic if he has been completing these outstanding chapters, but sitting on them, waiting to release all of them in one batch. For this to have happened he would have to have recovered from his illness. That is my hope. Wrt the people who 'want' money refunded, I've written a number of posts now explaining the very simple step that needs to be taken to do that (asking Tefler directly for it in an email to him). As I've also pointed out, not one single person has posted on here that Tefler has refused their refund, which should tell us all we need to know. These moaners would not hesitate to call Tefler out on this if that was the case. So its very clear, they haven't asked. They instead post unsolicited messages on everyone's behalf like 'Tefler has stolen our money', 'Tefler owes us $30K', 'This is fraud' etc... failing to understand that when Tefler posts these prepaid chapters none of what they say is then true, or that their beef is actually with Patreon, who allowed placeholders to be used and not Tefler.

Tefler Fan 007

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Enjoy time with your family.

Anonymous

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

Unresolved Plots

Correct and the zero likes that you have so far received on your front page post should tell you who the idiot in this situation is!! Lol. The quote you posted is advice to me, but I'm fairly sure that this irony will go over your head! I usually do ignore nonsense posts like yours, but it was so easy to show how silly and illogical what you wrote was with a bit of reasoned thinking that I couldn't resist! Here's another Mark Twain Quote which perfectly encapsulates your post and reply:- "It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"

Anonymous

You make us happy with a msg. from 11/18/2020, and since then no more comments

Anonymous

I'm cool with the differences of opinions people have the right to voice them this is a paid forum and there are tools in place to remove what you find offensive to you. Personally, everyone is different and as an adult, I can respect that. That being said some people ( literally just one person let's just keep it a buck) here make it their personal mission to berate and honestly borderline harass people whose opinions don't jive with their own. Do you think the authors stockpiling chapters for some grand Christmas mega-drop? Cool, that has never happened that I can remember but cool that's your opinion (if it is). Some people are waiting for Jesus to come back or for the dead to rise their prerogative not mine, live and let live debate but appreciate other's perspectives and move on. I also don't write here for likes I'm not out here seeking validation from strangers who enjoy the scfi novel I read. To reiterate if you find yourself commenting on every single post you dislike maybe take yourself outside, unplug, and go to the gym. I invite discussion and debate but if you're just going to yell "Patreon can help you with a refund look into it!" like I didn't already know that then proceed to gaslight me in an attempt to troll I'm good please skip over my comments they aren't meant for you since you can't/won't acknowledge that your opinion never was and will never be the only one, thanks!

Anonymous

Has anyone here actually met and talked Tefler? Maybe someone can touch base and let us know he is at least

Anonymous

just wondering where is the next chspter due

Anonymous

this is the last mesg. from tefler on 11/18/2020 My recent Literotica post: Addressing a few points... by You on 17 hours ago There's been a few unpleasant comments recently about the wait times, so I thought I'd address them in one go. There are a number of points I want to discuss: 1) Complexity of the story When I started TSM, I was writing a brand new story and could take it in any direction I liked. We are now 3.5 million words into this epic sci-fi tale and writing new chapters is much, MUCH, more complicated than it used to be. I'm juggling multiple ongoing plot threads, writing a lot more intricate character development, all while trying to maintain 130+ chapters of continuity and not create plot holes. It simply takes longer to write than before. 2) Personal circumstances. I'm now the father of two young boys and as anyone with children knows, they tend to be quite demanding of your time. 🙂 It's difficult to go from watching Paw Patrol, to getting into the right mindset to write space battles or orgies with alien babes! With the covid pandemic, I've also had the family around 24/7 during lockdown, which makes it even harder to focus on writing. Additionally, my father was diagnosed with Lymphoma, which has obviously been another factor limiting my time.

Anonymous

Maybe he passed away

Anonymous

I think it has a lot to do with him not having a matriarch. Super sizes condoms are easy to find. Even regular ones you can easily put over your other head.

Unresolved Plots

Keeping Progenitors alive to prevent them passing info to Xar'aziuth is a valid point. However, I'm not sure if John will be able to claim the Galkiran race if Gahl'kalgor remains alive? Same with future Progenitor's. We will have to wait and see what Tefler does with this.

Anonymous

Does anyone have the Discord link?

Greg Hill

@Xexsu...well said!...and another thing to consider is that he may be one of his many aliases...and there are a few!

GH

I didn’t not want to join discord. So what’s the summary

GH

The delay in publishing is getting so long, I’ve forgotten the nuances and details of the preceding chapters. It really makes for disjointed reading as a result.

Anonymous

Get a refund for what? No new chapters means no new charges. I just hope he is ok. It is very concerning that we are being left hanging like this. If something did happen to him, it seems like there were no contingency plans to let us know. If he could let us know he is still alive and hasn't, then wtf?

Anonymous

Does anyone know how to contact Tefler's wife? This is getting serious and I know I'm not the only one getting pretty worried about him. Forget about the story, I'm just worried about him and his family.

Anonymous

I see that teflers stories are out in books. Are these the completed works?

B S

they are slightly different to the original with added editing and a little more story

Michael56Smith

.744: ... timeline: back in August Tef's wife took the family camping to give him some distraction free time to write, ... but she broke her arm right away and sadly we lost 'August catch up month', .... now Tef needed Gallbladder surgery at that time as well, but his family needed him to do many things that normally his spouse would've done, ... I suspect that he may have postponed his own surgery to take care of his family, then when he finally got around to taking care of his own medical problem (rescheduled to be in October - November?) ... he might still be in the recovery stage, ... so 2023 was pretty much a bust for TSM stories, ... better luck next year (2024, yay!) ... -- maybe (hopefully) a few Christmas chapters? where he keeps all the various Progenitors names straight, ... oh boy ... ;-) ttfn

Jeff

i fear the end has come and Tefler is to never be seen again, not that it hasn't been building up to this

Anonymous

Anyone heard anything different on Discord? Like Jeff, I fear the end is nigh!

Evan

I hope that Tefler and his family are doing well (or at least better) and that we're just seeing the results of Tefler's promise not to pre-charge any more chapters, so he might just be working on finishing up chapters 164-168 and planning to release them all at the same time so that he can get back to earning a living here. In the meantime, he might have gone back to work to earn funds while he's finishing catching up. In the meantime, we live in perpetual hope (for some) and wish Tefler and his family all the best during the upcoming holiday season, while hoping for our own gifts to arrive.

B S

to quote Anakin...".back to the Beginning!!" Chapter1 here I come!!

Son of Lan Mandragoran

https://nms.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Konezaki%27s_Ancestral_Terror.png Just a quick link. Come on guys.... smile. It's Christmas!!

Anonymous

Discord link doesn't work...

Who Me

https://discord.gg/2bAnWNWs - Link expires in 7 days

Vizth Hal

While I'm hoping for something tonight, realistically I'm not expecting anything until after Christmas.

Tefler Fan 007

I’m hopeful for Christmas Day marathon.

GC

Function 5. Function 5. Function 5...

Big Orca

3 whole months without an update.

Tom Ray

he's DEAD

Anonymous

i truly hope tefler is ok i wish him the best and hope he comes back soon

DemonHunterCole

5 months since the start of chapter 164. 3 months since an update. Have there been any updates posted on any of the 3 discords? I’m going to start checking England Obituaries to see if he passed away.

Anonymous

People who are mad at people waiting on what we paid for need to chill. If he was caught up to what he charged us and then wants to take a month or five between chapters then that’s all good. My problem is being lied to. Even this post lied to us…

Tom Ray

You are never funny. But I am........ If he IS alive, he can defend himself... until then he is DEAD.

Tom Ray

Not even a word on his facebook page....

Anonymous

So I'm guessing Tefler is taking a break. Hopefully he will be back in the new year. Does anyone have any suggestions for in the meantime? Some good space opera would be great. I'm running out and need something to fill in the time. Help me Obi-wans!

Anonymous

Hey Gary Beaton Do not recommend a story that starts with a rape scene of an underage girl wtf! Efffff Arlene&Jeff

Michael56Smith

.773: Yeah Gary, Arene & Jeff is quite long but really good, I just finished re-reading it myself, and remember that the 700 plus chapters is in the 3rd part, and it is a few hundred chapters longer if you add in parts 1 and 2, ... and Roustwriters' new series, Times 7, was off to a good start until health issues sidelined both him and his spouse, out since last April, ... well, Tef is not there yet, ... fingers crossed. -- also, don't forget to recommend BurtRedstone, (free on Literotica and SOL) all his stories are good, and some are pretty great, ... -- Tef waiting to return in the new year? maybe, ... but I am still hoping for a Christmas chapter or two, ... but until then, there is still a lot of good 'other' reading material available out there, so enjoy, .... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.774: And when was Tef's last payday from his fans? was it in July? ... sometime last summer, anyway, ... the poor guy has been unwell, and is likely quite broke by now too, ... I am worried about him and his series, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Bad things have happened to so many of my favorite authors here. I hope things work out for him.

Jim lynch

You really are funny this and the Facebook comment very funny to anyone with a sense of humour.

Tom Ray

https://www.facebook.com/groups/295519395024958

Anonymous

BurntRedstone has some great stories and nice long reads. Also check out Lostboys stuff good scifi and entertraining. found on literotica.com

Cignal

I am sure he got another job to support his family. That is keeping him occupied and his mind away from TSM.

Anonymous

On the 17th of September I wrote: "Please prove me wrong Tefler, but stating that you will not add anymore placeholders, would suggest that you have found an alternative income stream (job), which means that TMS is low on your list of priorities, especially with children and health issues. Saying it will take you a couple of days to finish chapter 164, and still not posting it over half a month later, is evidence there of. I suspect that Tefler has left the building with nearly £20,000 of Patreons' money for the 4.5 chapters paid for but not delivered. Morally wrong, but what saddens me most, is the fact that we will not see the end of this phenomenal story. Please prove me wrong..." I was told "he'll be back" and "give him the benefit of the doubt" etc. Last time we heard from Tefler was on the 31st of August to tell us that he would complete chapter 164 in the "next couple of days", which we are still waiting on over 2 months later, and the last time he posted anything was back in July, if I am not mistaken. How long should I give him the benefit of the doubt before I should say "I told you so"?

MVFast

F5, F5, F5 😁

MVFast

Is that actually the right key? I’m actually checking on my phone.

Michael56Smith

Oh, we're Tef-ler-man-i-acs, and we're Zany to the Max, So, sit back and relax, You'll press F5 'til you collapse, .... ... we're Tef-ler-man-i-acs, .... ;-) ttfn

anand srivastava

How many chapters did you get free of charge? Crying over a few of them. Having no empathy is a terrible thing.

Korzic

Sure - don't think anyone would begrudge him that. Nor of he only released a chapter once a quarter. I think most people are unhappy that his communication with his fan base has been really unprofessional. The fact you don't even know what's happened to him really drives home that point. Takes nothing to say - Hey guys I'm on hiatus.

Anonymous

None... but paid for 4.5 chapters that he has not delivered, me and thousands of other patreons alike. I would have more empathy if Tefler even tried to keep us posted, rather than making promises that he did not keep.

Anonymous

P.s. I'm not crying over a couple of chapters, I'm angry that Tefler has run off with over £20,000 of Patreons' money. And disappointed that such a great story should be left hanging incomplete.

Anonymous

No sir a counterpoint is why do you have selective empathy? You have no idea when people started pledging here I, myself started coming up on 7 years now, and I've been here since day 1, and saying "How many free chapters did you receive" is disingenuous since any amature author puts out samples of their work to hook people and tefler I believe put out the first 57 chapters before starting Patreon, He also then imo slap the face of everyone here by then never giving us the remastered version of 1-57 before sale but that's my own personal gripe.

Anonymous

I have selective empathy for those I empathise with and deserve it. As for the first chapters that he released for free, that was his choice the draw people in. For this I don't pity him as he got thousands of people pledging him money on a regular basis even when he was not releasing material.

Anonymous

Right exactly no arguments it's just funny when people are like "Show some compassion they're going through things" like life is only happening to that 1 individual and we should all stop and simultaneously feel bad collectively. I swear people will suspend common sense and just general life experience to make the weirdest points like they don't actually know better.

Keepit simple

Anything from Burntredstone on literotica is totally worth reading. Kaizerwolf on Lit to start out then more chapters on Patreon-he is very consistent in posting a chapter once a week.

Dan

There's a sci-fi space story about werewolves and vampires, unfinished, but written by the deceased author Mike cropo on SOL

Dan

I also like The Missing Dragon by Lien_Geller on Lit.

Dan

I wish they wrote more to continue the story.

Jim lynch

Why I got zero chapters for free I bought the books on Amazon which covered those chapters so is it ok for me to moan about getting robbed ?

Anonymous

Will we ever have anymore from Tef?

Michael56Smith

.803: Oh yeah, we will hear from Tef again, as soon as he recovers and get his writing muse back in gear, ... I look forward to next year, ... 2024 will be full of goodies, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Do we even have evidence that he’s alright? It seems very strange for him to just disappear like this for this long with no notice whatsoever. But if something went wrong, how would we know? I’m more worried about what happened to him than the chapters that I may never receive.

Tom Ray

Everybody knows that if he is alive, he is reading these posts. and the longer he doesn't reply, the bigger hole he is putting himself in.. SMH....

Anonymous

Tef - if you're in a dark place, broken and grieving - your beautiful muse hasn't left you. You just need some time to heal, and then you'll hear her again. Be kind to yourself. It might seem impossible just now, but try to find these three things in your life: something to be grateful-for; something beautiful; something to love. You are loving, loveable and loved. Thank you for sharing your gift.

Anonymous

I have not seen a single person on here post that they have emailed him and gotten a refund or response? So that makes your comment just as invalid as Xexsu's comment. It is possible I have missed the "I emailed Tefler and asked for my money back, and while it took a while, I received a check", post from someone as I check in very rarely now, but if that had worked then I am sure the "whiners" would have been doing it and all of them "crowing" how they got their money back. Have not seen that though, have you? One post? Can you link to it? Likes on a page is really something you equate with intelligence? Wow. Ok, I have 1 million likes on Instagram, holds pinky finger to my mouth... That must make me really intelligent to your way of thinking. Note I do not have a million likes.

Michael56Smith

.808: Let's see, Tef began TSM in December of 2015, so he has been writing this epic for 7 1/2 to 8 years, (do you think he needed a break?) ... and we know that he did need to have a gallbladder operation, and if that was being delayed, it might have caused him some additional medical problems, ... then, if he ultimately did have the surgery, then he likely would've needed many weeks to fully recover, (until maybe about now?), ... -- So, how about we let him sleep in for Christmas, and then we can all enjoy some new chapters in the new year? fingers crossed, ... see ya in the funny papers my friends, ... -- Dark Speculation: ... and IF he had quit writing TSM, then Tef would likely have sent us an update stating his plan to take a break and come back to it 'later', ... I think that no note is good news, ...Tef's last old update in August was that he was working on finishing chapter #164, ... and further, I think that Tef has plans to continue TSM, life just got in the way for a while, ... -- and I blame the crying by a few about his placeholder (future chapters) charges, ... so he stopped pre-charging, so then he did not need to send us any kind of end of month update at all, ... so, this was a self-inflected communication loss, ... so, merry Christmas, ... ;-) ttfn

Greg Hill

How do you like "Wolves and Dragons of the Blood"?...I absolutely love it.

Greg Hill

Yeah, many of us paid for those books on Amazon as a way of helping him at his craft...he never acknowledged that either.

Michael56Smith

.811: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... --- upgrade the mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- remember to brush her teeth, ... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... ---- Oh yeah, and there is also the project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John and also the physical device of Larn'kelnar's as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, but they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not the evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura? Tashana? Edraele, Dana and Rachel, and maybe Helene? ... ;-) ttfn

Robar

Where are you Tefler?

Unctadsk

Are we going to get a grand Christmas or New year gift. Let's hope so.... I feel it wil be surprising all...

Dan

It was amazing to read, I was sad when I read he had passed.

Jim lynch

Give him till Christmas or new year then if he’s not commented then I will get in touch with Patreon about getting my money back for the placeholders I think everyone should do this too.

Newnotsure

I think getting any money back is not going to be good we are Patreons to him it could be counted as a gift we should just wait to see for sure

Anonymous

If Tefler needs to take a break from writing chapters in the story, cool. Would be better if he hadn't pre-charged for chapters that haven't been written yet, but not a huge issue. That doesn't really explain or excuse not writing a little one or two sentence note sometime during the months of September, October, November or the first third of December to just let people know he's still alive, and maybe set some kind of reasonable expectations. "Self-inflicted communication loss" is horse manure, and not the kind that's even good for fertilizing anything. He needs to not go silent for over three months while he still owes people for things he already charged them for -- you have the "stopped pre-charging for chapters" situation entirely backwards. Tefler collected money for literally nothing and then didn't communicate about when people would receive what he had already charged them for for over three months. If he's unable, if he's died or had a health crisis so severe that he couldn't type two sentences over three months, I am saddened by the loss. Otherwise, a simple "I am still alive, "x" is the reason I haven't caught up the chapters I've charged for (to whatever degree he feels comfortable discussing "x"), "y" is the time frame over which I hope to get the owed chapters completed is a basic, courteous, professional (which is the appropriate term because he's being paid) expectation.

Michael56Smith

.819: Money Back! ... I want chapters, ... and I want to see Tef all healthy and writing again, ... why not get off that 'money back' hobby horse? ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.820: ... well Woodrobin, as the bad tasting saying goes, ... " gee, that's awfully 'white' of you", ... so hang in there, and we'll eventually find out what the heck has happened over the last few months, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

I’m not asking for any money back. We all got what we paid for- a behind the curtain peek at the creative process. Writers Block, Health Issues, etc., are all part of that.

Anonymous

So you not only pull nonsense out of your nether regions to muddy the waters of what's actually going on with Tefler, you're also a racist, and you don't even know what "that's awfully white of you" means. That phrase is a racist way of saying "that's awfully decent/gentlemanly of you" so it's not applicable in any way that makes sense given what I said and how I said it. And the phrase is "in bad taste" not "bad tasting" -- it is a reference to "taste" in the sense of appropriateness and aesthetics, as in decorum, manners, etc. It is not "taste" in the sense of flavor of food.

Anonymous

I'm not going to ask for the money back yet, because it is a trifling amount over all. But he promised something, got paid for it, and did not deliver. And ghosting his supporters for three months isn't giving anyone any look behind any curtain. Regardless, it doesn't in any way excuse not staying in communication for over three months. A simple "I'm not dead, I am having troubles writing (with or without explaining the troubles), I will/won't eventually deliver the chapters I've charged all of you for" is basic common decency and respect.

HillCountryCowboy

TSM has almost 170 chapters? Unless you’ve paid almost $170, asking for money back seems ridiculous. Some people are petty, sweating a few dollars when they’ve received 167 chapters of a great story. Really?? If this is a problem worth obsessing over, you really do t have any big problems, do you?

Cignal

I bet you are a $1 subscriber. Note: I didn't say Patreon member as that would be a supporter of Tefler, which you are not. You just want what you think you are entitled to.

Michael56Smith

.827: ... complainers just want to complain, makes no difference if it is correct, right, wrong, or just plain silly, they wish is get their complaint out there, ... boo, hiss, .... bad complainers, bad, .... (Swing the rolled-up newspaper at their complaining nose, .... does anyone still have newspapers?) -- have a Merry Christmas, see you next year, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

id just like to know if anyone has heard anything on tef after writing so many chapters on tsm I just don't think he skipped out on us it must be health or something i wish we could find out

Anonymous

I am waiting for the "rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated "statement.

Jim lynch

Actually clever fooker I’ve been a £5 for over 5 years now you prick I supported him all that time till he started stealing from people who had stuck by him all those years. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions dickhead including you but I didn’t go attacking you did I no fucking prick are you a liberal yank I’d put money on you loving Biden now go take your face for a shit.

Anonymous

3.5 months without a word.. when StarFleet Carl passed his son posted about his passing within a fairly short time.. I would hope someone in his family would care enough about his followers to at least acknowledge he has passed if he is gone

Michael56Smith

.831: Here's a note from Tefler dated from two years ago, enjoy this older holiday greeting message from our Tef: Merry Christmas! Dec 25, 2021 Hey everyone, I hope you're all having a very merry Christmas and Santa sent you a sexy space elf in stockings! If you weren't on the naughty list and didn't receive a feisty Galkiran thrall, then you have my sympathies... but you can console yourself with a preview of the next chapter of TSM. I've attached my first draft of chapter 146. I still have half-a-dozen more scenes planned out, and I'll add them to the chapter when I get back from visiting family over the next couple of days. Merry Christmas! Tefler --- Ahh, good memories, I am looking forward to 2024 for more good stuff, ... and a Merry Christmas to all, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.832: ... and as a reminder to Tef, since it has been so long since he's cranked out a chapter of TSM, .... a few notes: ... Tef needs to help John's crew defeat those pesky Gilkiran's, .... and, ... ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, made from MWM, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the improved Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... and it could be a fast / quick and easy source of MWM too, .... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... Dana would likely need MWM to make them, ... --- upgrade the engineering bay's mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... better, faster more versatile, ... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on organic Faye (Dr. Rachel), _ and our sweet Dana needs to find a few more of those Mael treasures, ... --- remind Dana and the bot's to build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... the girls will love them, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in all of Dana's remaining spare time, ... (on Valaden? or on Kythshare? or elsewhere?) .... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... also, Dana should remember to brush and floss too, ... that's important, .... ---- Oh yeah, and there is that little project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John's Progenitor knowledge, or instead. they do have a physical device, Larn'kelnar's focusing wand as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, also, they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not that evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's lovely sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... that would be Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura(?), Tashana(?), Edraele, Dana and Rachel, (would a focusing wand aid the good doctor with her psychic healing?) and maybe Helene? ... others? ... all that should kick-start a few thoughts for ole Tef, if he reads it, ... ;-) ttfn

Bill

I certainly hope Tefler is still around and kicking. My cousin was diagnosed with Gallbladder disease and turned out it was stage 4 pancreatic cancer. He passed away a couple months later.

Michael56Smith

Chilling thoughts Bill, ... I do hope it is just Tef being his normal 'bad' communicator self and nothing worse, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Is there a way to contact Patreon to ask them to contact Him and see what is up? I’m sure they require a current address and phone number. Maybe they can reach out and see if he is ok. That is really all I would like to know. If he is ok, he will post new chapters when he is able. If he is not ok, then my prayers will be with him and his family.

Tefler Fan 007

On the 12th day of Christmas Tefler gave to me. Twelve pissed off Admirals Eleven Fleets destroyed Ten brooding space elves Nine asses plundered Eight tentacles fucking Seven girls screaming Six passed out nymphs Fiiivvvveee gallons of cum Four awesome chapters Three space battles Two sexy twins And Alyssa sucking on Johns huge cock. Damn I’m bored 😁🤣

Tefler Fan 007

But I want four chapters for Christmas. Santa Tefler I’ve been really good this year.

Unctadsk

My dear, fyi to say 1 dollar in India costs 83.04 Rupees. Get calculators....

Tefler Fan 007

Stay out of it. We all know you are on the naughty list so don’t drag me with you.😜.

Michael56Smith

oh yeah, I am dreaming of chapter(s) of TSM for a Christmas present also, ... that would be so awesome, .... -- just finishing #164 and maybe part of #165, would be pretty much a great Christmas, ... ho ho ho .... --- Tef might wish to completely catch up with all the placeholders, but our Tef always seems to be a bit behind his wished-for job completions ... so even a little TSM would be good, .... ;-) ttfn

Eriach

I just lost one of my subscribed patrons a month ago. He'd been on hiatus for almost 8mon with small tidbit's every now and then and bam died in his sleep.

Anonymous

Not worth it brother this dude is the same ass licker running around here just on a different name. The dude needs to pay for alt accounts and stir up shit to feel like his life is meaningful he's a bottom feeder and it's not worth wasting your cognitive function on a response to a shit eater.

Anonymous

That's like asking YouTube to do a wellness check on one of their creators there's no way bro.

Anonymous

not really, it'll be more of the same at this point there's 0 expectation at least for me.

Michael56Smith

Santa Tef is gonna find out who's been naughty, .... and if you've been bad, then no new TSM chapters for you, no matter how many times you press the F5 key, ... cackle-cackle, ... ;-0 ttfn

G E

I don't care at all about the money. I didn't like the sound of his health updates at all and I fear the worst at this point. I also wouldn't trust the NHS to properly help him out. I highly doubt he would ever intentionally skip out on us. I think he's either got serious health problems, or serious family circumstances, or the worst case. I hope I'm wrong.

Michael56Smith

... and we can dream of new TSM for a few more days, .... ;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

Exactly they are all ass licking knobheads think their opinion is the only one allowed or that counts. That prick m56s is the biggest ass kisser of them all I’m thinking it might be a fat tefler in disguise.

Jim lynch

If he gave a shit about any of his Patreon she would have told us all he was fine prob just lost his muse for now but no even if he’s in hospital every uk hospital has free Wi-Fi so could have signed on to let us know he’s fine. If he eventually puts a status on here it proves he is in it for the money and couldn’t give a shit about any of us or his story.

Randy

Does anyone has info on teflers health status

Randy

Any updates on tefler health issues

Michael56Smith

update comment #860: -- hmmm, so no one has 'heard' anything, and it's Christmas in a few more days, .... will we get our stockings stuffed with some long awaited TSM chapters? or not? -- of course, there are the gloom and doom types that think that not hearing from Tef (he normally has a communication problem) might mean that something bad has happened to our author, .... (nooooo) --- but he did have various health and family issues, and after 7 1/2 + years of writing TSM, I think he might have needed a little break as well as his time to properly heal from surgery, ... so not hearing from him does make a fair amount of sense, ... and while it is quite frustrating, I think it is completely understandable, ... I wish him well, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

HI folks, I reached out to Patreon Help to see if they had a way to inquire about Tefler's health. It turns out no, they do not, and if you want a refund, Tefler is the one to decide that, not Patreon. So I suggested they consider adding a way to verify an author's health, but I would not hold my breath. My guess is their business model is a commerce server with multiple vendors who set their own rules. If this is true, they probably chose it because it has the lowest cost and the smallest exposure to legal risk ($$$). Wish I had better news...

Michael56Smith

Merry Christmas Folks! I just wanted to pass this along to all you good Erotic Sci-Fi fans: .... C.H. Darkstrider has just dropped the latest Prometheus series chapter (#58) in Patreon, .... and if this story/series is new to you, there are many 'free' chapters available on Literitica.com, so take it for a test drive, ... Enjoy, ... and have a Happy New Year too, ... ;-) ttfn

Tefler Fan 007

3 days until the fun begins

Michael56Smith (edited)

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2023-12-23 12:39:02 ... Fans just wanna have Fun, ... ;-) ttfn
2023-12-23 05:53:56 ... Oh, Fans just wanna have Fun, ... and, ... -- ... we're Tefler-man-i-acs, ... --- ... and we're crazy to the Max, ... Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! .... ;-) ttfn

... Oh, Fans just wanna have Fun, ... and, ... -- ... we're Tefler-man-i-acs, ... --- ... and we're crazy to the Max, ... Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Merry Xmas Tefler, I hope you and yours have a happy and healthy festive season and new year.

Anonymous

I wonder if the author is still writing. If not, well it was good while it lasted.

Unctadsk

Me too... Merry Christmas and Happy New year to all... 🎄🎂🎉🎁

Anonymous

Now I’m really worried. Will check daily. Hope you guys make the best of the holidays.

Evan

Tefler, I hope that you’re doing well, or at least better, and I wanted to wish you and your family the most joyous of holidays.

Michael56Smith

... in the immortal words of Alfred E, Newman, "What, me worry?" ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

-- Just to be safe: Tef, I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

To everyone in the Three Square Meals community I wish you a merry Christmas 🎄 and an entertaining new year.✨🌝🎄

Unctadsk

Happy New year all my Co-readers. Let's hope to Santa Tefler starts release of writing.

Randy

Merry Christmas to all. God's blessing to you and especially to Tefler and family. He is alive, believe

Michael56Smith

comment count #.876: Hey guys and dolls, there are still a few days left in the year, do we have any takers on whether Santa Tef starts out the new year in a wonderfully TSM way? beginning with the completed chapter #164, ,,, oh well, that's what I thought, ... so, have a Happy New Year everyone, ... ;-) ttfn

Tom Ray

I was hoping that something would happen. the closer it gets to the end of year, my hopes are being dashed......

Jim lynch

He couldn’t give a shite about his Patreon if he did he would have told us what was wrong or got his wife to type out a response from him. But oh no it’s fook all for us since the end of August what a prick.

Newnotsure

Jim just maybe he is a little bit ashamed and just can’t talk yet give him chance he will come back we all hope

Aldo

To start first with this....i really really hope all is well with Tefler...second i would like to propose this....since Tefler has manoeuvred himself in a position that he needs to write 4 chapters until he can benefit again from new chapters... I am ok that he catches up with short stories... That will enable him to quickly close the gap and start earning again.... Let's start positive !!! Maybe he is a little miffed by all the negativity after giving soooo much... After all he HAS delivered 164 episodes of work that i have seen nowhere else... The man is talented. And talent needs to be nurtured ...so please please *if* he comes back welcome him with positivity... Best wishes for the new year

Anonymous

i'm as miffed with the lack of communication and lack of delivery. i still supported him by purchasing the e-books that i was able to first read for free as part of my patreon sign up.

Anonymous

You've been alive awhile buddy surely you don't actually believe what you just said, surely. People die every day, it's sad, it's tragic, it's life and we will all experience it, some sooner than others, and if this is the case then that sucks. Tefler being dead or severely incapacitated is the only thing that makes sense since we're coming up on 4 months of silence nothing else justifies this honestly. Sucks, but like I said that's life.

Anonymous

he's not 17 and he made a little bit of an oopsie, dude's well in and past his prime so your statement about nurturing talent is weird he was/has been doing this for almost 10 years I'm sure his talent has been well and truly cultivated. And I'm sure if he did return he'd be serenaded.

Anonymous

Well Well well. Looks like i was right about his reappearence not before 2024

Anonymous

haha, maybe his ghostwriter quit, and he hasn't found a new one? /sarcasm

Newnotsure

Wow guys give it a break stuff like this he may never get back to writing , encouragement is what he needs now.

Vizth Hal

Good luck getting them to listen, some of the people people here only exist to whine.

David Fraley

Guys, this writing is pretty profitable. I would be shocked if he stopped on purpose. He is likely very ill or has passed. Hopefully he is able to get back writing when his health permits.

Anonymous

Deploying next week, here's to hoping we have a chapter when I get back! Good luck everyone!

Newnotsure

So I finally read the last part chapter I have not ever read part chapters now I hope Tefler gets the next chapter posted

Anonymous

Unless he's deceased or in a coma, the fault lies with Tefler. If he's hit a writer's block, he can say so, and people will understand. If he has other commitments, he can say so, and people will understand. If he is able to explain the situation and he chooses to not communicate with people who've supported him financially, he opens the field to concern, speculation, worry, and flights of fancy because he CHOSE not to COMMUNICATE what's actually going on with him.

tony

i am starting to worry, has tefler abandoned TSM, not saying anything since august has me concerned that TSM won't ever be finished

Vizth Hal

Given the levels of entitled whining coming off of some of the people here I cant say I'd blame him just for the sake of his mental health. Of course I hope he's just taking a break and will comeback for new years.

Myrnalin

I see no whining what so ever, Block them its like 10 ppl max.

Anonymous

He is the one that said he was going to post a chapter a few months ago in a couple days and that never happened. So yes people would be pissed off. He is also the one to just say nothing and drop off the face of the earth. How hard would it have been to say something, anything? Like I need a break for a few months and will see you all early next year? He is a writer who can’t even write one line to everyone who is paying for his story. The excuses at this point are laughable. If he is tired of all the negative comments, it’s 100% his fault. He caused it by his actions. Well inaction!!! At this point, I consider the story and author dead. It is what it is. He wouldn’t be the first person or last person to disappear forever. I’m checking in once a month and see nothing has changed. It’s what I expected at this point. The author and story are dead. See ya next year to say this once again.

Anonymous

Yes, 100%!!! Tefler is so lazy that he can’t even post anything. Leaving everyone hanging on a post he creating saying a new chapter was going to be posted in a couple days and now it’s been months and not a single word from him. This is 100% Tefler’s fault. A writer who can’t leave one sentence as to why the chapter wasn’t released!!! Let along anything in months now. Too lazy to inform everyone who pays to support him. To me and many others, this makes no sense. If he needs a break, great!!! But can’t say anything about needing a break to everyone supporting him? When you say you’re going to release a new chapter in a couple days and then nothing. Not a single thing in months. What conclusion will people come to? That he is dead!!! Why people are making excuses still at this point? Do you know something everyone else doesn’t? Has Tefler said anything here sense? Are you a mind reader from a distance or see Tefler’s ghost? Tefler has created all the negative comments. I don’t see how any author could be this rude to his supporters unless he is dead. In which case it wouldn’t be his fault. The story is dead.

Anonymous

Looks like I’ll be right about his reappearance never happening. That he is dead! No author could be this rude to his paying supporters unless he or she died!

Anonymous

I don’t see how any author can be this rude to his paying supporters. It takes very little effort to write one sentence. We’re all doing that. It’s simple!!! So he must be dead! I had my gallbladder removed many years ago. I did a lot of sitting around doing a whole lot of nothing, building my strength back up. This was before smartphones. I was staying at my grandmas house. It wouldn’t have taken much effort to go on my phone, if I had one back then and posted a message here. It’s been over 3 months. What excuses are left? He is dead! It’ll happen to all of us at some point. It sucks as we won’t find out what happens. Tefler is dead. That is the only acceptable excuse of treating his supporters like this left. Ya, it sucks!!!

Anonymous

There is one other possible excuse, besides being dead or just ran away, it could be that he is incarcerated. I am pretty sure the 'one phone call' rule doesn't apply to sending a note that he may enjoying "Three Square Meals" at the gray bar hotel. again, /sarcasm

Greg Hill

@V.H., Are you BY CHANCE Tefler in disguise, he has used aliases in the past, and you sound quite annoyed, actually pretty rude about it...as though it's personal!

Anonymous

Happy new year2024. Only eight hundred and forty two years until we can find out how the battle went from Jehanna ?

Cignal

People who have to repeat their argument have lost the argument. You lose Joe.

Cignal

Happy New Year Tefler and everyone else. Tefler, I hope you and your family are all ok. Reagan always talked about the silent majority. You have that here also. There is a minimum number of whinners. The rest support you.

Anonymous

Has anyone seen Literotica today. A new author named Boundlessumers’s has posted a remake of Tefler’s TSM chapter 1. No idea if he/she has Tefler’s permission

Drew

Happy New Year, Tefler. I hope things are turning around for you. Thank you for a great book, and I hope you return to it in 2024.

Rhys

Happy New Year Tefler, Hope things are getting better for you!

Myrnalin

I guess someone named Joe is raging, I cant see it. I blocked it, the waste of space.

TheEvilSmurf42

It's been deleted. Whether by mods or author is unknown. It's still on the front page of the Sci-Fi/Fantasy board but it gives a 404 if you click on it.

Evan

Tefler, best wishes to you and your family for a Healthy, Joyous and Prosperous New Year. We miss you and we wish you all the best. Thank you for everything you’ve given us in 2023 and previous years! We have hope for more in 2024 and going forward.

Tefler Fan 007

Happy New Years!!!!! F5♾️

Unctadsk

Happy New year. Can anybody inform us in which universe Tefler is still continuing TSM. In which universe he is healthy, alive and writing great stories.....What is the pathway to that Uni....

Johnkr

Happy new year

Tom Ray

well for me, the new year coming and going tells me that Tef is done. either by choice or by passing...

Heinz Molck

A Happy New Year to you, Tefler. I hope you are doing well!

Florida Reader

... or suffering massive writer's block, or dealing with family drama/crisis issues, or any number of other life events that derail the best laid plans...

Gky

Is Teffler still alive? I know they were having health problems but I can't seem to find ANY activity from them anywhere, indicating they're well and still working on this story....

Michael Cummings

I had hoped that Tefler would post at least the finish of 164. It seems to me that the life of TSM as we know it has possibly ended and the need to find someone to finish the saga!! I'll not hold my breath on that thought as it would take a writer of great talent to do so in the style of Tefler.

Rhys

I choose to hope, hope that Telfer will come back someday. Some people are miffed at his silence, okay, there are other creators on this site who charged more, delivered less, vanished without a word and still left their patreons active and charging their subscribers. Tefler didn't do that, gave us quality for a really reasonable price and turned charging off when he felt he couldn't deliver. So I will hope, hope that someday this wonderful story will be concluded by its author, that I can one day say, Thank you Tefler! Thank you for a story for me when I needed it.

donald abbott

I think it's done, Really a great story, but life happens, I still check back hoping for an update. Thanks for a really great story, sad to see it never had the ending it deserved, but the same happened with Vanessa Ravencroft, and I really miss her stories as well.

Vizth Hal

Well we know for a fact Faye was coming back. At least we got that.

Newnotsure

So I have page booked marked I will be deleting it and wait for a email saying Tefler has posted an new chapter good by see you when Tefler has posted again. Happy New Years to all. I hope you all have a very prosperous year ahead.

Aaron Floyed

Happy New Year everyone. I have decided to go back and read the series from the start again. I am missing a chapter and cannot find it here. In particular, I am looking for Chapters 104. The files go back to 101 onwards. It killing me to me missing this 1 file. really wrecking my OCD and ADHD :)

Anonymous

I will come back in 6 months and see if anything has changed...

Tom Ray

go to https://storiesonline.net/home.php then look up the Story and open 104.

Anonymous

I just hope he’s okay and that the destruction of the NHS (National Health Service - which is currently collapsing) didn’t do him in with all its delays

jdg45

On home page, click in Search posts, enter Chapter 104 ...

Trimtab

I hope your health is recovering, and that you and your family are doing okay Tefler! 2023 was really rough on you, but all your fans are praying that 2024 is infinitely better!! Yes, we are of course very eager to hear more of John Blakes tale. But i think most of us simply wish you well, wherever you are right now, and hope you arent stressing out over the past due chapters. Many of us would gladly forgive you that debt. But God bless and all the best for this new year. ♥️

Anonymous

I have read numerous storylines and have had authors just drop them, but what bothers me is they don't tell you they quit or family does not pass info if something happened. Hope this is just temporary but if anyone knows anything on Tefler please post it.

Anonymous

As I expected, another month, a new year and nothing!!! Tefler must be dead! There is no other excuse as to why you would treat your paying customers like this. A writer who can’t even post one sentence. It sucks the story ended where it did. It sucks we have no idea who this person really was and may never know what happened.

Anonymous

Patreon has said they have no procedures to let the readers know of an author's health, nor do they have any plans to ever do such a thing.

Jim lynch

If he ain’t dead then fuck him he obviously doesn’t give a flying fuck about the people paying his wages but as of Monday morning I will be getting in touch with Patreon for my stolen money back.

Anonymous

I’m disappointed and yet I want to keep hoping that he’s ok and that Tefler doesn’t end here. That his story continues and that TSMs hiatus is a sign of something wonderful that’s being worked on.

Bill

I hope Tefler hasn't died. If so I hope someone will be able to pick up this story and finish it.

Anonymous

......what...? use some damn common sense man.. There are multiple iterations of this published and you've never seen a copyright, for that matter, I'm sure he had the original masters of his work notarized come on Jack you weren't born today. This dude made a mint off this story.

Keepit simple

Socialized medicine....went in for gallbladder surgery and came out armless. Seriously though wish Tef well. Enjoyed his story and wish it would continue. I have a)ready played out that Fey was reborn/born and got to view the marvel of her "children".

Johnkr

My sister in law went to England and had trouble getting her diabetes meds, her foot swelled. The doctor says Americans use too many medications. She just needed green tea and soak the foot in epsom salts. Her foot kept getting worse and they decided she had to have it amputated. Our family doctor said for who to get home fast, week later she was fine. They wouldn't run an MRI.

Jim lynch

Bullshit I’m English and yes it’s not brilliant but what you’re saying is bullshit unless it happened in 1985. In uk if your diabetic and do your every year foot and eye examinations then whatever it was would have been caught then she would have waited a month maybe then went to hospital for examination and scans I know because I’ve had the exact same done and I’m fine.

Korzic

Come on Cignal. If he had even the slightest regard for his supporters, the least he could have done was a Merry Xmas/HNY. It's been radio silence for over 4 months with nary a hint of him ever coming back.

Myrnalin

Murica is winning the race to make the most multi resistant bacteria, not over-medicating. /s

tony

say what ? am i being accused of something ? whining?? being somebody's alt account (i'm not btw) ??? my gawd,let me just duck out of the way of the flying turds, besides i am in no mood to engage in a flame war (mic drop-with force)

Anonymous

Where is Tefler? How did I lose? I’m 100% right. At this point, Tefler is dead. Keep making excuses for a writer who can’t write one sentence in months. You are the one who lost the argument.

Jim lynch

Oh and if the uk stoped subsidising the nhs and then spent the 800-900 billion on our defence like the USA do we’d be the world leader again like we used to be before we started things like the nhs for the good of our citizens.

tony

Joe Waldvogel said this to i guess me ....? Where is Tefler? How did I lose? I’m 100% right. At this point, Tefler is dead. Keep making excuses for a writer who can’t write one sentence in months. You are the one who lost the argument., ny reply is this: since when did i ever make any excuses and what argument are you talking about, make sure whom you are addressing please, i don't have time or patience for a flame war.

Myrnalin

Its easy to see how good the story was, all the reactions in both end of the support-scale. From down right abusive to hopeful and supportive. I am so glad I can block the whiners and abusers I hope tefler does the same.

Shaqjor477

Just finally got caught up to what seems likely to be the end. Even if the author is no longer reading anything, its important to honor the amazing world he created, and the stories within. While I wish he had the chance to finish, what he accomplished was amazing! To Tefler, wherever he may be, cheers, and Thanks!

Myrnalin

dont belive all the fearmongers, we dont know if the story is over, personally I think that suddenly alot of chapters are gonna drop

Anonymous

The story has been amazing and I really hope this is not the end. There seems to be another hundred chapters and so many story lines that this could go on for years. I started back from the beginning half a dozen times and it still thrills me...Fuck it, I'm going to read it again!

Anonymous

Sad to say, I am thinking this is the end of his story. He is either passed away or so severely disabled that he can’t communicate. He has family. If he were in any state to communicate, he could ask a family member to post a simple update.

Michael carney

I remember way back in the dreamtime when I first discovered and binge read till no more posts. Thought damn that was good, but no new posts, he must have stopped writing. Then he appears again and soon after is contemplating patreon. So if he posts again, BONUS!!!!!!! If not so be it. I don't even feel ripped off about the couple of owed chapters. Maybe should go back to a day job and get the joy back into writing and post on patron for bonus money and not worry about deadlines.

Anonymous

I read some comments here that seem to mean we are paying for a product rather than paying to support a writer. The difference is more than semantics. While a charge is put out for published chapters, that is not required. Tefler can charge per month whether or not he produces a chapter. That means you are not paying for a product but paying to support an author. The author's choice to not charge you without a chapter posting notwithstanding. This is why, when someone complained to Patreon, Tefler decided to just walk away. He is under no obligation to post another chapter nor is he obliged to pay back any monies he charged for chapters not yet released. Something about cutting off your nose to spite one's face comes to mind for the one(s) who complained to Patreon.

Anonymous

By the way, the last communication I had with him was on November 18, 2023. So he seems to be alive and well.

Anonymous

my dimes worth here. As you say the author has the option to charge per content or per month. but the business model adopted was to offer payment categories with bonuses based on the amount. my payment was for content. I support the author by paying for the e-books as well. (a few variations in the books compared to archives but both enjoyable) I think the whiners as you put it were discontent as without notice they would be charged for multiple placeholders without anything at all (sometimes we did get notice ) promises were offered and deadlines committed to but not met. now i haven't complained to Patreon, would it make a difference if i did, NO. but it would be nice to at least let his fans know what is happening.

TheEvilSmurf42

You aren't wrong AusLoki but I am pretty sure it says in Patreon's terms of service that any payments are not a guarantee of anything and they nor the author are under obligation to return the money should nothing come of it. So it basically boils down to supporting the creator either way.

Bill

PLRUS - Tell me if I understand what you said. Tefler is punishing everyone because some of the readers complained to Patreon??

Stephen Paynter

Tefler being alive and well in late November is great news and a huge update. Thanks for telling us this. I will settle back and wait with much more hope, as I was beginning to doubt.

Anonymous

It clearly states on the site that the charge is per chapter.

Cignal

Patreon was created as a means for people to support creative people, so their products or material could be shared. It wasn't a guarantee of any product but a way to maybe see what people could produce. So there is no guarantee of product. Patreon setup different ways to support. When Tefler first started he was producing 3 chapters per month with a fairly simple story without may threads or complication, so he probably thought it was a good way of support, not realizing what was to come as the story got more complicated. He could have selected to go with per month at the time, but he probably thought he wouldn't have trouble producing chapters. Little did he know how complicated the story would become. Many of you know how complicated it has become. He has stated that he doesn't want to repeat scenarios in the story, which makes the story really hard to write as it takes extra time to come up with new scenarios as a lot get used up. So as the story is getting more complicated to write, his health deteriorating, domestic responsibilities increasing, and then his so called supporters here start whining and demanding product on a site that was created to support the author, not guarantee the creation of product, I think you can see why he has disappeared. He was burned out. The complexities of the story are a lot more now than when he started Patreon. I can see that by keeping track of the timeline. His family is needing him more. His health was deteriorating. Then when he needed support his so called supports were demanding he produce for them, not asking or supporting. I can understand why he is not here. I do hope he comes back after things cool down and he doesn't just walk away. He has stated in 2020 that he was writing TSM for HIS enjoyment, not the supporters and could walk away at any time. There is a link on Discord if you want to see his comments. I just hope that his disappearance isn't permanent. Those of you that think you deserve product are not supporting the author and are not true Patreon members.

Bill

I agree with most everything you have stated above with one exception. Terran Marine Membership states $1/Chapter. Although that is not a guarantee most people would expect to have a chapter if they were charged. I understand Patreon was created to reward an author for his work - unfortunately when money exchanges hands they are expecting to get what was in the contract. $1/Chapter. I'm not arguing with the merits of what you've stated - I'm just presenting real life - why some people are upset and what was presented in the membership. I'm not taking sides. I'm hoping to see/hear a healthy Tefler in the near future.

Anonymous

🤣😂, people have their own lives to live and are also dealing with their own shit, have their own health problems, have their own familial obligations, and STILL PAY THIS MAN. What prey tell is your point? Everyone's support here is monetarily no one knows him personally and I'd say everyone here has upheld their end so why can't he? The way you talk I'd swear you were sleeping with this man. Words aren't supportive ACTIONS are please think before you say otherwise, you wrote a whole damn word wall to nut lick while acting like a battered wife saying it's everyone else's problem but his. (if he's even alive at this point.)

Anonymous

And this is the reason Tefler has stepped away from this platform. There are too many individuals who seem to feel they are entitled to something. If that is your mindset maybe you just need to walk away and grow up.

Anonymous

Yes, the charge is per chapter...but that is a concession by the author, not a requirement of patreon which does allow for monthly billing with no product. Therefore: the argument is moot and has no standing.

Bill

Grolan Knight - was your comment directed at me??

HillCountryCowboy

Xexsu, are you honestly comparing the effort to write a 10,000 word, interesting, complicated, convoluted chapter with the struggle to pay $1?

HillCountryCowboy

Did anyone who is whining about pre-paid chapters go back and pay Tefler for all the chapters they read before Tefler started on Patreon? Did anyone pay for every chapter posted on Patreon they had access to that was posted before they joined Patreon? No, there’s no ethical requirement to pay for anything before you committed to, but it’s ridiculous, petty, ungrateful and selfish to not recognize everything you got for free, and then whine about three or four dollars. Some people would whine if they were hung with a new rope. Honestly, every last one of us has gotten much, much more than they paid for. I hope Tefler is well, resting, and some point in the future feels renewed and his muse moves him to share more of his tale. But he doesn’t owe anyone anything.

Jim lynch

Yes I bought all the books on Amazon am I allowed to moan about the fraud teller committed on everyone now eh am I up to your moaning standard now. Who made you the boss dickless if people want to complain let them if you don’t mind being stolen from good luck to you.

Greg Hill

At that time did he have a newly discovered broken hand, or something...did anyone fall down a well in his garden, did the dog get a hold of two many dog biscuits and over bloat, his only fork ran away with his best spoon, a nor'easter blew in and stole his roof?...lol, and you have a thing for, with what you and he calls whiners, but not for one of the other seven deadly sins, the one that starts with the letter "L"?...typical!

Unctadsk

Dear Hilly billy. How many dollars you have donated so far in your life. Please donate for needy and homeless 20% of your worth and then you have a minimum authority to speek to others. Or else shutup please.

Greg Hill

I also bought all the books he had on Amazon, even went out of the way to encourage others to do the same, even when people were beginning to call him out in the Stories On Line comments section, even defended him for a year or two of whatever he called himself doing on that site...but I'm nobody's cult member, and I refuse to be treated as such!!!!

Unctadsk

Dear PLR, following is the verbatim of Tefler's last 168 placeholder writing. And why don't you try to open a page on your name with placeholders only to see how much you earn without posting documents worth readers delight. Someone fave forgotten that the First line of Capitalism is Customer. I want to thank all of you for persevering with me and TSM over the last year. I know that a lot of you have been really disappointed in the drastic slowdown in chapter releases, and me charging for placeholders. I promise I will keep striving to catch up on the chapters I owe you, and I hope you'll continue to enjoy the story. The next couple of chapters are all planned out by scenes, I just need a clear run of not being hospitalised with gallstone complications to actually complete them

Myrnalin

right back at you. did you donate 20% of your income? or are you just talking sheit?

MVFast

Maliri fleets… What to do… what to do… what to do with them? They are acquiring Larn’s fleets. These will be the new default. Will the ‘old’ upgraded fleets be sent to the lesser houses to replace their ‘original’ fleets? Will the original fleets be decommissioned? The original Maliri fleets could be de-rated (remove the Nova Lance) and give them to Terra. That would help them match up against the Enshunu/Brimorians.

Anonymous

Yeah, since I broke my back for that dollar, I went to work 13 hours every day, 6 days a week for that dollar, Yea it's a fucking struggle.

Anonymous

Promising a thing, collecting money for the thing even though you haven't delivered the thing (charging a chapter fee for a placeholder) and then disappearing without a word (if it is voluntary) is FRAUD. Expecting not to have FRAUD committed against oneself is not entitlement. The complaint isn't that he promised something and didn't produce it. We all understand life complications, writer's block, burnout and all the rest. The complaint is that he collected money for placeholders instead of chapters (collecting thousands of dollars) and then didn't produce the chapters he'd already collected money for and didn't produce an explanation nor an expectation nor an update on his health nor a bit of a word about what was going on. If he had been caught up with what he had already collected money for, no one would feel they had been wronged, and everyone would be on his side, hoping he'd return to writing chapters but perfectly happy if he felt he needed to take a break. ESPECIALLY if he actually communicated what was going on to his supporters. But vanishing with money given in good faith without providing any explanation for the several month gap in any communication? Expecting people to not to feel wrongly treated by that is expecting something really unreasonable.

Anonymous

So you're saying you have a back-channel outside of Patreon to communicate with Tefler, and that Tefler EXPRESSLY TOLD YOU HE DECIDED TO WALK AWAY FROM POSTING THE CHAPTERS BECAUSE HE WAS UPSET PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT HIM NOT POSTING CHAPTERS HE ALREADY CHARGED FOR? You're saying Tefler admitted to you, and you passed on to us, that he deliberately committed an act of fraud (not producing something he'd already charged people money under the premise and promise of producing) because his feelings were hurt by people complaining after he'd gone over a month without giving any indication he was making any progress or intending to finish the chapters he'd already collected money for? You're admitting he willfully withheld things he'd promised (and collected money for in good faith by trading on the trust and goodwill of his supporters)? Wow. If this is true, it really doesn't speak well of Tefler, nor of you for being an accessory after the fact, nor for sitting on that information for so long.

HillCountryCowboy

Tell me where I’m wrong. Did you not receive “value” from Tefler’s tale before you paid for anything? And you’re paying a dollar for a chapter, a transaction, not making a “donation” to Tefler. And overall, you’ve received far more value than cost.

HillCountryCowboy

Who’s talking about donations? If you want to discuss donations, Tefler has “donated” far more to us, with years of free chapters, than than you’ve paid (not donated) for.

HillCountryCowboy

13 hours a day, six days a week, for $1?? Have you considered a career change? Bag boys at the grocery store and fry cooks at McDonalds make $12-$15/hour.

Unctadsk

In another platform PLRus is saying all we are giving is donation to Tefler and so we can't ask for chapters. First get your facts straight and the belittle others.

Unctadsk

Dear Team, we discussed with Tefler when he left his steady job to join patreon and write full time many pros and con's. Please find that discussion on literotica still there. We still believe in him, his writing skills. We understand his writer's block before critical wars. But if someone gives promises continuously but fail to deliver, and then went incommunicado, In any countries law it is not good example. Even his coterie still doesn't publish the unpublished chapters in Literotica and SOL. Still if Tefler come back with good chapters all will be forgotten by all. Let's see who have good and cool brain.

HillCountryCowboy

How many chapters have you read? How many chapters have you paid for? Sometimes it reduces anxiety and tension to back up and look at the big picture. It also helps to relax and realize the world is not all about you. PS- buying the e-books is a great way to support authors. I commend you for that.

Anonymous

Well, I for one have thoroughly enjoyed the story so far. Gotten much enjoyment with the whole space and alien theme. I looked forward to seeing what John and the girls were up to each month. It put a smile on my face to read it. Not so much into the sex, but the plot and intricacies of the storyline were phenomenal. Not against the sex as its important to the plot line, but I just thoroughly enjoyed the story. Personally I hope Tefler is okay and is doing well. I do understand getting burnout and stepping away from a project to gain fresh perspective. Be well Tefler and I hope to see more of your writing. You are truly talented and a great storyteller. I will patiently wait for your next chapter if you so choose to write one.

Jim lynch

Mr hill billy big bollocks you really are as dumb as your comments suggest patroon is not a donation website it’s a pay for a product. Also if you talk to the customer service on patreon like I have you will find what teller has done is against patroons rules and is classed as fraud and if I don’t get my money back or actually get what was paid for I full fully go after him out of principle I hate thieves there’s nothing worse than a cunt who cries the poor tale whilst raking in nearly ten grand a month how the funk is he so short of cash after going from £1,500 a month before patreon to £10,000 a month ? It’s just bullshit.

HillCountryCowboy

Good Lord, take a breath. Check your meds. Go for a walk. You’re this worked up over four or five bucks? Again, how much did you get for free? You’re really majoring on the minors here, buddy. Gain some perspective.

HillCountryCowboy

Do not let your left hand know what your right hand gives. If you donate for applause from men, you have received your reward. What you give in secret will be rewarded in Heaven.

Anonymous

lol, no I make enough plus I do business for myself on my off days, I'm good thanks. It's funny I was thinking that you'd say some low-level shit like this and you didn't disappoint you must have every country stigma in your family line huh🤣😂? Bravo!, a truly 10 outta 10 response👏👏.

Anonymous

Well said, What you just did was called the application of common sense which some people here either don't know how to use or willfully suspend then turn around and berate others for using.

Anonymous

And here is where people who try to suspend common sense to prove a point fuck it up, "And you’re paying a dollar for a chapter, a transaction" meaning that you paid to receive something! Everyone here has paid 4x's over for something they didn't receive... but according to you everything we've received so far costs more than what we didn't receive, that which we already paid for? I'm not even going to get into the fact that every chapter is the same monetary value so your argument makes no sense but, if you're going to nut lick make it make sense, please.

Anonymous

I'm not so sure if he is still alive. gall stone and gall blader infections can lead to death if they burst, inside you so I've Beem told.

Anonymous

I continue to hope that things will turn out OK for Tefler But I admit that I am disheartened by how many words I follow who have passed away or just stopped for whatever reason. Two others I enjoyed in the long-form sci-fi category have died.

MVFast

Me again, trying to keep us focused on the story (and hoping for Tefler to be well, and get past anything blocking his writing). Future skills for the crew. They all need to be able to create shields. Well, probably the nymphs won’t need to! Basic hand to hand combat would be good since psychic inhibitors are a possibility. Thralls probably wouldn’t be as physically capable as the girls, but many would be able to fight. The thralls in every progenitor’s fleets are likely to be soldiers. Shields are made of hexagons. An individual hexagon could be thought of as a shuriken and could be sent flying at an enemy like Alyssa does with knives. More to come.

Jim lynch

No dipshit I’m not cheap like you I’m mad over 20-25 pounds about 32 dollars and guess what dickless I’m allowed to be seen as it’s my money he’s stolen just because you don’t mind being a door Matt for him to walk all over.

Anonymous

"This is why, when someone complained to Patreon, Tefler decided to just walk away. He is under no obligation to post another chapter nor is he obliged to pay back any monies he charged for chapters not yet released." PLRus, apparently speaking on behalf of Tefler, presuming to speak on behalf of Patreon, and claiming that people who were charged for chapters using a placeholder posting that promised the chapters and apologized for charging for them without posting them don't have any right to the chapters they were promised in the very message that generated the charge for them. "By the way, the last communication I had with him was on November 18, 2023. So he seems to be alive and well." PLRus, claiming to have a back channel to communicate with Tefler, and admitting on Tefler's behalf that Tefler ghosted his Patreon supporters deliberately, not even confirming to them that he's in good health after repeated pleas to at least let people know he's okay, even if for whatever reason there's no forward progress on his stories.

Anonymous

Note: I sincerely hope that PLRus is a liar. But this is presented for what it's worth. "This is why, when someone complained to Patreon, Tefler decided to just walk away. He is under no obligation to post another chapter nor is he obliged to pay back any monies he charged for chapters not yet released." PLRus, apparently speaking on behalf of Tefler, presuming to speak on behalf of Patreon, and claiming that people who were charged for chapters using a placeholder posting that promised the chapters and apologized for charging for them without posting them don't have any right to the chapters they were promised in the very message that generated the charge for them. "By the way, the last communication I had with him was on November 18, 2023. So he seems to be alive and well." PLRus, claiming to have a back channel to communicate with Tefler, and admitting on Tefler's behalf that Tefler ghosted his Patreon supporters deliberately, not even confirming to them that he's in good health after repeated pleas to at least let people know he's okay, even if for whatever reason there's no forward progress on his stories.

Anonymous

$23,568. At the $7,586 per chapter Patreon lists as his level of payment, that is how much money Tefler received from his Patreon supporters for placeholder posts that promised that chapters (the production of which he decided to use as the basis for receiving money from Patreon) would be produced. I know people who work for a whole year and are lucky to end up with that much money in their paychecks. It was just $3 or $6 or maybe $15 from each supporter, but it adds up to a nice chunk of money for three empty promises and a ghosting. If there was communication (even just a "I'm alright after my surgeries, but I feel like I need to take a break from writing TSM for a while. I will eventually get the promised chapters out, but I can't promise when. I'll process refunds if you don't want to wait and you don't want to be a supporter anymore.") that would be one thing. I would never want to rag on a writer with writers' block. But common decency and respect for the people who have put their money where there mouth is supporting your work is not too much to expect, and is not less than is deserved.

Anonymous

My understanding was that we were paying for early access to new chapters. We still have that. Others will have a longer wait to see ones that we have already seen and will get to see before they do.💡🤔

Johnkr

It was 2017, it may be anecdotal, but I traveled with a number of expats who return to US to get health care before returning back to the UK.

20 ton

Turning a passion or hobby into a job often causes problems with motivation and interest. Happened to me when I went to work for my favorite athletic department. I went from rarely missing a basketball or baseball game to not going unless I was working. Took years regain most of the interest. I haven’t gone deep into Tef’s early comments but most authors on Lit are looking for an outlet and a chance to hone their craft. It was put there for free and allowed for his writing abilities to flourish. He gained an audience which created a base for him to choose going professional. He chose to leave his job for his passion which would not have been remotely possible without him sharing his talent for free. Why else would they give free samples at Costco or bakeries. I certainly gained as I as drawn into this world having reread it several times and spent hours speculating and Monday morning quarterbacking. My problem isn’t the few dollars withdrawn from my account, it’s that he has followed a pattern of several people that have screwed me for money. First I was aware of prepaying was fixing the roof. Very humbly asking and promising never again. Latter it came easier and easier with less then no by your leave. Ten minutes after dropping a chapter and for me in the middle of the night. Many have echoed what I believe has become a justification that he is owed for those early free chapters. That wasn’t the deal and isn’t an honest or fair justification after the fact. People aren’t upset by the amount, our time and personal involvement with the characters and story lines is what has been taken from us. A couple days is now 4.5 months. There is no honor in taking money and then backing out on providing the agreed upon work. John would never consider it , I hope Tef’s ability to write about it means he understands and believes it. We all, regardless of what we feel about this situation, want Tef to get past the hard times concerning his health and family issues. If you have lived long enough you have lived through some measure of hard times. The total lack of contact on this platform is the real slap in the face to people that have developed a long distance thread of a relationship. I’m greedy and hope he gets this situation resolved, fulfills his promises and moves on towards a place where this is a profitable side passion and not WORK. Many of us also love Burntredstone but you only see requests and not the pressures of fulfilling an obligation.

Jim lynch

What a reasonable articulate response to theft lol it’s way better than my moaning cursed comments. Some people on here seem to think that stealing from your supporters is perfectly fine because teller put out some free chapters to start his story but they also forget that teller sold four books on Amazon that covered those free chapters and I’m sure most if not all bought all four books like I did. Still they don thin I have a right to complain that teller has turned into a self centred it’s all about me cunt radon my French but a simple comment like you’ve stated in your comment above along the like of sorry I’m not well at all after my fake operations but when I can be assed to write again I will give you the chapters I stole for. Now my wife’s fake broken arm is fixed she has wrote this comment as I’m struggling to write with the arm transplants I’ve recently had done after I lost my arms in a alien abduction their tractor beam didn’t lock onto m arms so they stayed behind whilst the rest of me went full ftl to the planet bullshite meter lol sorry I thought I’d give it a go and see how teller feels after bullshitting everyone ha ha ha ha lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩 🐂💩

stephen mincher

What you are saying is that tefler could just keep charging per month with no chapters, If that was the case i think he would have. I thought it was 1 payment for 1 chapter(contractual agreement. ) Is this a permanent walk away? Could tefler ‘move’ TSM to another site that suits his life/work balance?

Jim lynch

What a wanker and full of shit too he took when he shouldn’t have taken he now lawfullyowes everyone he stole from the money back.

HillCountryCowboy

Try some reading comprehension this time. You’ve read over 160 chapters of TSM. Have you paid over $160 so far? If not, you’re still way ahead in the value and entertainment you’ve received compared to your expense.

Anonymous

That just doesn't make sense you think new artists get paid to put out mix tapes? They Do that to generate hype to garner interest THEN they release albums for pay. Who the fuck could justify asking for money for chapter one of a book that you haven't heard of from an author you don't know and an amateur one at that? Every book for purchase online lets you read about the first 2-3 chapters give or take this shit ain't new. He put out chapters for free to build a following from which he then started making close to 10k per chapter and most people here paid for double the amount of chapters that he put out for free stop your bullshit. There's a reason why tefler went to Patreon rather than a publisher and decided to self-publish.

Jim lynch

Dumbass I’ve paid over a grand already I’m not a tight ass like some I only moved my amount down to a dollar when he started fucking us over.

Anonymous

Pretty sure a couple of posters on here are Tefler. You know their names

Anonymous

Any one kind enough to share the link for Recurvee's Max Melonie story. Computer blew up and are having issues locating it again. Thanks in advance

MVFast

Although there is a bit of avarice and corruption in the outer rim colonies, that might be a good place to send some “old” Maliri ships. They don’t have the facilities or skills to build more, nor the resources to pay others to secretly do so. As long as they aren’t given enough to be a threat to the T-Fed, that would provide them with self defense.

MVFast

NO Nova Lance. In fact, don’t even provide battleships. Just lesser class vessels capable of defending the colonies.

JP

Tefler created a world that is unique, interesting, and engaging. Paying someone with talent that I could never achieve on my own is worth a few extra dollars. I’ve wasted a lot more affirming my interest in multiple failed sports teams. - Patiently waiting for the next chapter Thank you Tefler for the hours of enjoyment you have already given.

Tom Ray

Tefler, please resume the story. thanks

Walter Davis

I hope you are well and your family is as well. Patiently waiting for the next segment of this series and ready to support you Tefler!!

Anonymous

While I get the frustration the negative comments are a big reason he hasn't posted anything. Personally I would have responded with a F U. Tefler is a very talented writer. Really hope at some point he continues. But as I suffered through the same condition I get it. As far a the charges for those 4 chapters, get real. Your crying about $4.. Try writing a story, putting up with criticism and going through pain that's so bad that you can't stand up. To Tefler, I hope that your health is improving and I want you to know that not everyone is jumping on the whining bandwagon. Best wishes

Jim lynch

Mr hill your a cunt of the highest order now go fuck yourself

Jim lynch

Greg how is it you know that is why he hasn’t posted. Do you chat with tefler ? Or are you believing plrus and his bullshit. Tefler is stealing I don’t give a shit if it’s $1 it’s still dishonest and as far as I know he never got any shit till the placeholders started and he promised this and that but never delivered then never posted to say why or when to expect said promise he just ghosted us all like a rat.

Reau Reau

Lol cool, so it's been a year since i decided this isn't worth following; it looks like in that time he published 3.5 chapters, and the debt has increased to 4.5. Let's face it: for watever reason, Tefler's done with this. I mean hell, why else would you leave 7 months worth of additional income on the table. But people leaning too heavy into "theft" are wrong too. If that was the intention, or if i was him. I'd just reduce wordcount by 50% or more, stop proof-reading or doing any kind of continuity checks, and just crank out first-drafts. Couple days of that, then pre-charge for 4-5 chapters at once, and BYE. Wouldn't catch me dead posting updates for a year. Let's hear it for the supporters: maybe he decided to release em all at once to "show em". GL!

Robar

I’ve been through this. He’s dead! Fuck

Anonymous

I, of course, hope that Tefler has already recovered his full health. I do not wish him ill at all. I have thoroughly enjoyed his story, and eagerly awaited its continuance. The *only* issues I've had with him are the dual issues of charging for work he had not yet produced (which I was willing to allow on good will and good faith) and then disappearing without communication for months (which destroyed said good faith and certainly didn't increase the good will). *$31,424. That's the amount, based on him still owing 4 chapters he charged for but did not deliver. That's based on the amount he receives per chapter according to his own posted information.* A fit of pique at insufficient gratitude is nonsense -- he charged for the chapters, he has a duty to produce them, since he's already accepted payment for them. And simple decency and courtesy would have prevented almost all the negative comments. If he were having writer's block and/or health concerns were interfering with his writing, a simple sentence every couple of weeks to say, "Hey. I'm still alive. I will get the chapters done that I've already charged for as soon as I am able, but I can't promise when that will be" is NOT too much to ask for or expect. Instead, he left people wondering if he might have *died* rather than posting a simple reassurance. And not everyone was supporting at $1 per chapter. If, like myself, you supported at $3 per chapter, you lost $16 on false promises. Others might have supported at higher tiers. In retrospect, that does seem foolish, but we had no way of predicting Tefler would take the money and disappear.

Randy

So comments show nothing favorable about Tefler. Yes no news in this case is not a good sign, it would just be nice to know the status. It should be done with care and concern for the person and not bickering by the followers. We hope for a positive responce. With respect.

Anonymous

As I mentioned previously, I contacted Patreon Help who indicated they don't have a way to reach out to an author to determine their health or status, and have no plans on creating such a capability. They also indicated that any refunds are solely at the Author's discretion.

Anonymous

I'm not going to worry about $4. I'm a discord member of the chat that follows Tefler. A moderator talked to him a couple of months ago. That's all I heard as far as an update. Do this upset me? No, because any person that has the talent to come up with a story, post it, then keep posting for years. Has my respect and I don't believe in bitching about something that I can't change.

Studley Destiny

I don't care about the money. I just hope Tefler is on the mend and will be able to continue eventually!

Anonymous

Yeah, five months without a peep is a bit long. The LEAST he could do would be to post health updates every 1-2 months, just so his supporters know he's still alive. At least we know how the story eventually ends, thanks to Kin Asdi writing "The Xin'arax Legend". It doesn't explain how the side stories end (like Tom Walker, the Brimorians and Abandoned, etc), thinking they'd be part of the main story, but at least the Invictus crew find ONE uncorrupted Progenitor and help him escape, then a decade later they FINALLY take out Xar'aziuth and free the astral plane. (If you haven't read it you can find a .DOC version in the 'Pinned Messages' of the #FanFiction page on the Discord site, as that's where I downloaded it from.) There's also another story by Kin Asdi called 'The Amazing Tale of Janet' set 200 years in the future of TSM

Who Me

Here is the link - It expires in 7 days - https://discord.gg/n7j8yc4U

Unresolved Plots

I've asked on Discord for a valid link to be posted here. Hopefully it will be done soon for you.

Cignal

Tefler has posted 3 links to the Discord site here on Patreon. One after chapter 132, one after chapter 133 and one for a Q & A session. Do a search of this site for Discord Link. The link is https://discord.gg/ByA4Xv5

Anonymous

Here is a link to the TSM discord server for those asking. If you go to the new member section and post a screenshot of your patronage here a Mod will set you up so you can view and interact with the Patreon only channels. https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord

Anonymous

Let’s not make it hard for him to remember his passion. Na-mas-te

HillCountryCowboy

I really doubt “most if not all” bought the Amazon books. Here’s a marketing consultants who estimates an Amazon ranking over 500,000 (as Tefler’s books Nov have) is approximately 1 book/month sales. https://www.startawildfire.com/amazon-sales-ranking-calculator I bet 10% is a high estimate of how many readers purchased the Amazon books.

HillCountryCowboy

Non-specific accusation, vague, no details, appeal to secret knowledge for the conspiracy minded - do you also write horoscopes? Fortune cookies? Post to UFO blogs?

HillCountryCowboy

If the later chapters are worth $1 to you, then the earlier ones were also worth $1, you just didn’t know it yet. Now you do know, but no one has asked you to go back and pay for them. That’s value you got for free. Some people are generous and appreciative and pleasant to be around. Others are parsimonious and petulant and miserable to be around. We all get to choose who we want to be. You do you.

Anonymous

Every time the end of the month nears I cross my fingers..

Tefler Fan 007

F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️

Cignal

Just so you guys know, Tefler has recently renamed himself on Discord. The good news is he is alive. The bad news is that he appears to be distancing himself from TSM.

Newnotsure

I guess it said he left don't add anything we don't know for sure

Anonymous

Not entirely true, he renamed himself on Discord, so you can't just look him up or easily contact him, but he is still on the server.

tony

get well soon tefler, hope to hear something from you whenever you have time.

Mike Sarap

I really enjoy reading TSM. With the way everything is going it is a great escape. I hope Tef recovers from his ills and continues the story. I'll keep checking to see if he submits more.

Green Seadragon

If Tefler has abandoned TSM, then we should pick it up for 4.5 chapters and end it properly. A grand battle scene where Faye is reborn as a Kythfaren. So it seems as if abadoment is the issue then we should do a hostile takeover. Everyone needs to put there bruised egos away.

Anonymous

Dear Tefler, I hope you are in better health than your last mail. I, for one, have never read a more intriguing story. You have the gift of a story teller with an unfinished story. I do not, as everyone else, know why you have stopped publishing your story but I plead that you return to the pen and keep us on the edge of our seats. If, by any chance, someone has upset you then please remember that there are thousands of loyal followers just waiting to continue reading about John and the girls. I cannot stress hard enough that there are always a microscopic minority who want to spoil it for the rest. Please ignore them and remember your loyal followers. All the best from one of those followers of an intriguing story. Scudrunner.

MVFast

F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ F5 ♾️ Tefler Fan 007, I hope you don’t mind me copying that!

Anonymous

For the next SEVEN DAYS ONLY I've posted XINARAX and JANET to my MEGA page, so you can download a FULL version of "The Xinarax Legend" at the following link: https://mega.nz/file/QqQmiTiA#IcC1X9imAe5g19TWvng0_0-YtScWYpPBpNrVVY-aVbM since the latest pinned version on Discord is missing the last 3 chapters. This version has been converted to htm format, with the css file has the formatting.

Anonymous

"The Amazing Tale of Janet" can be downloaded here: https://mega.nz/file/9jZDiCLR#7aF3H4BcGGHihD1_2mwd4jfiO9kQmR7mzUeS4PIx0Oo converted from .DOC to the newer .DOCX. This too will expire on Feb 10th.

Greg Hill

No space battles here, but if you have Kindle Unlimited, and you like grand sweeping epics, then you'll love Dennis McKiernan's :"Eye Of The Hunter", and once you finish that you'll want to go directly into it's sequel: "Silver Wolf, Black Falcon (a novel of Mithgar)...after that you'll be a fan of McKiernan for life, 'I Guarantee'! Which is good because he has a plethora of books about the world of Mithgar...but those two and "Voyage Of The Fox Rider" are the best imo, but others might disagree...they're wonderful books if you like action and adventure, discussions about the gods and free will, morality and immorality...full of world spanning adventures ...dragons, elves, dwarves, foul folk, hobbit like Waerlinga...just a great universe he(McKiernan) formed...

Michael56Smith

.311: to Tefler: ...oh, where oh where are you tonight? ... why did you leave me here all alone, ...? ... I searched the world over and thought I found true love, ... ,,, but you met another, and Pssst you was gone, .... ;-) ttfn

Kenneth Murphy

You’re very entitled🤪 must be a one of those millennials who wants everything now or they throw a tantrum

Kenneth Murphy

Lmao world leaders , also 900 billion is half your country’s GDP. You’re poor and can’t fight you’ll always be a speck on the global scale

Kenneth Murphy

Real big on “common sense” people with common sense usually are pessimistic conspiracy theorists.

Kenneth Murphy

Whah so “rude” life happens crybaby. Only children complain this vociferously when they don’t get their way

Michael56Smith

.312: ... Hey! it worked, . Tef dropped the completed chapter #164 on 02/03/2024, .... wow, ... I guess I need to sing more, ... ;-) ttfn

Robar

It feels great to be wrong! It was just so long and I've seen a lot. This loss of any contact was my reason for the comment.

Michael56Smith

.311: So, I'll stick to singing in the shower for now, .... :-)

Nathos

Our lord and saviour has returned. For real I hope you're well and putting your health and wellbeing first Tefler. Meeting the demands of hundreds is never easy, but looking after yourself and your loved ones comes first.

Greg Hill

"Our lord and saviour has returned."...yep, no cult here, keep it moving!

Michael56Smith

.314: YAY! Tef's back, ... (Feb 3rd) ... -- let's see, .314 times TSM equals six months with no updates, that's quite a long time without any information, ... so, spill, come on, tell us, ... ;-) ttfn