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This one is a placeholder for chapter 167. 

It's highly unlikely that I'll have surgery scheduled for this month, so I should finally be able to catch up on these chapters I owe you.

Best wishes,

Tefler

Comments

Michael56Smith

.08: I expected a #167 placeholder to let him pay his monthly bills, ... let him get to feeling well again, and he'll catch up, ... have some faith, ...;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Faith doesn't last past a year and a half of this placeholder excuse on top of excuse BS...All faith and trust has been burnt out after this long.

Jedi Khan

Your doctors must have a different definition for "urgent" than most of us. If they were indeed dealing with your situation as "urgent," they'd have you in for surgery within a week or two. But yet you say that your surgery is unlikely to be scheduled this month? Yeah, that's not "urgent," that's "it can wait."

Damion Cocchi

Technically it is the long known about problems with socialized medicine that they want to bring to the US, so that we all suffer horribly unnecessarily... that's why so many people from Europe and Canada to flee to the US medical tourism

Michael56Smith

.14: ... does this mean thar Hendrix Morton is an Erotic Science Fiction Heathen? with no faith? ttfn

Anonymous

M56S, I hope that Tefler never suddenly stops walking anywhere, because if he does your nose will be so far up his ass that he's gonna need further surgery which will necessitate pre-charging for another 4 chapters.

Anonymous

The NHS has many problems, but waiting on truly urgent surgery isn't one of them. Tefler's problem sounds like a chronic, recurrent issue, which can be kept safe with medication until surgery. If you're truly putting forward the notion that "socialized medicine" causes horribly unnecessary suffering, maybe pull out a mirror and look at the almost endless suffering caused by the lack of any health care at all for a significant portion of the US population. There's a reason that the US has such high levels of child mortality and low life expectancy compared to other first world nations. As for medical tourism, 200,000 people travel to the US for health care every year, while 1.5 million US citizens travel elsewhere because they can't afford the treatment at home.

Michael56Smith

.18: Hey Tef! ... please do not forget your fans reading TSM on the 'free' sites, .... latest chapter was #145 on 05/02/23, ... if you could find it in your heart to drop them a couple of freshly released chapters, then the fans would really love it, .... thanks ... ;-) ttfn

Dani Vega

All the negativity aside, I'm glad you're back, Tefler! I don't mind paying you in advance for a promise to deliver. Just like the original idea of a patreon used to be. No pressure during hard times. We're glad to have you back when you're ready to get back. I'll up my subscription for the ones you lost

WWODBD

I unsubbed in Feb, and am now happy to pay for July (with the $1/month limit, just in case) because I believe we're square. I'll unsub before August, assuming there's not another installment before the end of the month. I don't need any explanations, and I don't pass judgement. From here on out, whenever you put out a chapter, I'll happily pay you my dollar, as your Patreon terms clearly spell out. I won't be paying for placeholders or partials. That said, I hope for good things for you in health and life!

Anonymous

Glad that antibiotics worked. While it sucks, that your local doctors don't want to do the OP, at least they are not over convident. I wish you the best and get well soon!

Tyler Derkearmian

So now we're up to placeholders for a complete 164, 165, 166, and 167. God I wish I could put money away that easily. So at Tefs typical pace we now have placeholders through November. Almost seems like he's trying to dig his hole deeper than last year.

Anonymous

I am actually wondering when we will start seeing 5-7K word length chapters. That will make catching up far easier than the "normal" sized chapters in the past.

Anonymous

Catch up on chapters owed by the end of the month, sure. Another placeholder, how unique.

Jim lynch

I’ve got a feeling that your tefler in disguise or his lover the way you go on about him it’s stalkerville or tefler in disguise ?.

Jim lynch

Be careful nobody drowns in all this bs

Anonymous

Good luck!

Anonymous

Thanks, Tefler. Now anxiously waiting for the rest of 164 and hopefully more chapters to follow before you have to go for surgery.

JamesRider

get well soon tefler, and maybe set yourself deadlines during the month, like each sunday a chapter (since it are 4 chapters). Dont tell us about it, just do it for yourself

Anonymous

Tefler, this is what I warned you about without a completed chapter 164. Stop slapping and get zapping and the complainers will be attacked by your loyal fans.

Parzival

Tef can you set yourself a hard deadline of the middle of the month to have a chapter out? If you did this it would only take 4 months to catch up. I might be wrong but the way it looks is that you only work 1-2 days at the end of the month to produce something so that you can put another charge out. Surely if you put an expectation that you will have something out mid month and end of month that would help both yourself to produce and keep your loyal supports happy that you’re trying to catch up.

Parzival

You only seem to listen to a few people that tell you only what you want to hear, that it’s ok and we’ll continue to support you. These same people also tell others if they’re not happy, to stop supporting you. If I had people telling my clients that, I’d be pissed! They’ll keep telling you you’re ok right as you drive this right off a cliff. They’re even helping to create the cliff. You’ve pissed off the vast majority of your supporters. I don’t say this to have a crack at you but to try to warn you of the aforementioned cliff. Please please take stock of what you’re doing and fix it and maybe accept some of the offers of help to turn it around before it’s too late. I’d really like to read the end of this story and the sequel and that’s not gonna happen if you lose half your support base and can no longer do it.

Parzival

I run a successful business and could help not only with communication but also with ideas to increase your level of support in a way that people would be happy to pay for. And if you don’t like me that’s fine, please just accept someone’s help to do this. And not one of the yes people because they’re not gonna give you the help you need. Someone who is happy with where it’s at isn’t going to be able to change it for the better. You need someone who’s not actually happy with what you’re doing to help change it and hopefully help change the general perception you’ve created. I’ve read comments where people no longer care about your personal situation and what’s been going on in your life which should tell you how bad it’s gotten. Your average support per Patreon is down over 50%. The alarms should be ringing.

Anonymous

Hahahahahahahaha

Michael carney

Typo 163 Only then can the superstructure can be safely ejected,”

Anonymous

I’m actually happy about this, for the first time in months. I got what I suggested: charge us for a half chapter, which is about the size of an old chapter anyway. Happy to pay twice a month for this to happen.

Michael56Smith

.42: A few times a statement has been said that makes little sense to me, .... that Mael'nerak Claimed the Thrall species, the Maliri, here in Shrouded Space, about 72 thousand years ago, ... After he came to this part of the galaxy, .... - Okay, recall that he was already a very powerful Progenitor with over 60 Progenitor Victories under his belt, .... just check out some of the Throne World (on Kythshara) Palace's artwork, ... So, who were his thralls / solders way back then, prior to 72,000 years ago?? -- I suggest that Mael came to Shrouded Space with some 25 to 30 Thrall fleets, maybe more, ... or he sent for a few dozen more later as the war with the Achonin wore on, ... at the war's end there would have been many thousands of his Thalls available to impregnate and start a new Empire with, ... He may also have snuck in a few males too, maybe, ... So, it is my belief that the Maliri have always belonged to Mael'nerak, ... --- I also do not believe that he created the Nymphs, I believe he adapted them from a species that his brother Progenitors had developed eons earlier, and he had a few in his former Empire, and he sent for them, ... he then may have made a number of adjustments like when he made them only breed able by a Progenitor (himself), and he then used them as the perfect spies to help win the war with those pesky Archonin, 72 millennia ago, ... there were some older commands like no hand guns that were leftovers from centuries past, .... And I think that the Achonin were the ones most likely to have created the powerful Astral / Psychic Dampening field later called the Shroud, and those nasty and horrible slavers, the Enshunu, might know where and what it is, now, ... ---- And John should get around to looking into the origins of the Shroud, and keep it going, ... maybe make some more, ... curtail Xar'aziuth's control a little more, ... I would've thought that Mael'nerak might have dug into the origins of the Shroud himself and that knowledge may still be buried in the all the multiple centuries of data at Kythshara, or was it lost in Nexus's memories, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

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Anonymous

So this makes it 4. 4 months behind at the rate it’s going. Soon it’ll be 5. Don’t lie to us Tefler, there’s no way you’re catching up anytime soon. For you to catch up and be on schedule by the end of this month, you’d need to release 5 chapters in the next 26 days. A chapter every 5 days when you’ve been releasing one every two months? Come now, we’re not that stupid.

Anonymous

Wow Andrei you are really slow aren't you.

Austin

I'll still support you Tefler, but I've changed my sub from $10 to $1 with a limit of 1 charge a month. This is getting pretty far behind

Anonymous

I’ll take that last comment and flip it - @tefler I’m currently at $1 with a 1/mo limit. As soon as you are caught up I’m back to 10 unlimited

Austin

I never said I wouldn't bring my sub back up, once he's caught back up I'll change it back

Anonymous

I’m not one to complain and honestly don’t mind the slower pace this year too much, I get it, things happen. I don’t get however why every post from Tef is either “I’ll finish this part post up soon” or “I should be able to catch-up this month” when he never posts before the last day of the month, which means either he’s not posting as soon as they are ready as he claims or doesn’t finish a single chapter until the final day, in which case of course he isn’t going to catch up…

Rayce Royal

Been daydreaming about TSM being a blockbuster movie series akin to the Marvel Universe. I'm trying to picture in my head all the main actors and actresses that would play the main rolls. IMO the two best actors to play John would be Alan Ritchson or Chris Hemsworth. I'm leaning more toward Alan Ritchson here, simply because he doesn't have the Marvel baggage attached to his likeness. Also I'm seeing Charles Harris being played by Tom Selleck, but he might be a bit long in the tooth. Love to hear your thoughts on the girls and my choice of leading man.

Michael56Smith

.51: I too would love to see TSM up on the big screen, but due to TSM's long storyline, I picture it becoming a series rather a movie, or even several movies, .... I should think a good quality Animation series, for television, or streaming, it could still be 'Blockbuster', ... and each TSM chapter or two in Tef's storyline could be a one-hour show (44 minutes for television), .... they might have a few big-name voice actors, recall Mark Hamel voicing the Joker in the Batman the Animated series, He was awesome in that, .... and Kate Mulgrew on Prodigy, was excellent, .... -- So, with that in mind, here are a few ideas for voice actors/older conventional actors who can play more youthful parts within an animation feature: --- voice of Harrison Ford or Tom Selleck for Admiral Charles Harris (Authority/Angst) --- voice of Woody Harrilson as John Blake (wow, ... but think about it, he has the range) --- voice of Sally Field or Kate Mulgrew as Fleet Admiral Lynette Deveraux (Younger and Older voices) --- voice of Kim Basinger as Alyssa (Mind reader talent) --- voice of Barbara Edan as Jade (Yes Master) --- voice of Pheobe Cates as Dana (fixated/sexy) - and there are many more actresses that have aged out of most TV and Movie roles, but are still fine talents, Like Marisa Tomei, or Dana Delany, ...and also there are very many excellent just voice actors too, .... Perhaps you could get a few like James Doohan who could do multiple parts/voices, ... ---- Anyway, those are a few of my thoughts, take them as you will, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.52: Okay, ... What about Faye? when is the gang going to be able to get back the Lab on Kythshara and finish the reanimation process (She's Alive!), ... then there is the trip to Trankaran space and the Star Forges (using the wormhole generator, but w/o the nausea), .... and then back to Genthalas, but if the Star Forges can make John a gleaming white Super Dreadnaught from Dana schematics, in record time, ... well that changes a few things, ,,, but back in the Protectorate, aside from all those Matiarrchs in need of more cum from Baen'thelas, there are a very many other lovely Maliri, on many worlds. in desperate need of a Nymph's Kiss; a few months to make a million, or so, Maliri wards, 10 million plus in a year, ...I do hope Edraele can handle it, ... ;-) ttfn

Who Me

But John would be unconscious for DAYS giving all his psychic to all the girls! Look how the first "Nymph's Kiss" weakened him for hours and that was just a few thousand!

2ndAndrocentric

Mike wrote: “A few times a statement has been said that makes little sense to me, .... that Mael'nerak Claimed the Thrall species, the Maliri, here in Shrouded Space, about 72 thousand years ago, ... After he came to this part of the galaxy, .... Fabulous Me corrects: Contrarywise, it has been written several places that Mael came WITH the Maliri ALREADY claimed to the area of space that later centered on Kyth’shara AT LEAST 72k years ago (could have been more). Mike continues: …So, who were his thralls / solders way back then, prior to 72,000 years ago?? Glorious Myself nags on: His thralls had long been the Maliri, which have been explicitly stated are not native to this part of the Galaxy. As to solders, while it is true that Dana was wielding an acetylene torch when she first met John; she left that behind and no mention of soldering has been made since. I doubt Mael had so many solders that we need to account for them. Mike then comes to the obvious fact that: “-- I suggest that Mael came to Shrouded Space with some 25 to 30 Thrall fleets, maybe more, ... or he sent for a few dozen more later as the war with the Achonin wore on, ... at the war's end there would have been many thousands of his Thalls available to impregnate and start a new Empire with, ... Ugly Irene adds: Well, I had to look “Thalls” up. From Merriam Webster: thall- combining form variants or thalli- or thallo- 1 : a young shoot : thallus Thallophyta, thallium [not the radioactive element used in medicine for stress tests], thalliform 2 : thallium, thallic As a botanical similie, since the 2 purposes for thralls is destruction and procreation, we could wax poetic and say that thralls birth thalls and young thalls become thralls. Very good Mike, I am impressed. Mike: He may also have snuck in a few males too, maybe, ... So, it is my belief that the Maliri have always belonged to Mael'nerak, ... Dr Pedantic: … or he went on an artificial insemination rampage. No mention of why artificial insemination was not used by the Maliri Matriarchs to solve the population problem has been given beyond “Where’s the fun in that?” I do agree that most likely after establishing himself, Mael imported all or a sufficient portion of Maliri so he would never have to leave the Shroud. I also want to remind that it has been written that the Maliri MIGHT have had other Progenitors before Mael. The cycle is made clear several times. A baby Progenitor is sent to an unclaimed Thrall species. He is adopted and shortly after puberty claims that species. There’s actually a hint that to do so, he must do something terrible to his mother. Check out chpt 160 when Gahl tells Ashryn that Delsanra was his mother, and how he apologizes for what he did. Eventually some other Progenitor kills him BUT, no Progenitor is allowed by Xar to claim more than one color. There is deep animosity and mistrust built into their DNA even if claimed by the same as explained when Edraele first interacts with Auralei. John has to re-write their DNA. In other words, Xar is a racist. So, the conquered Thralls are left leaderless and grow in number, but decline technologically, for awhile until a new baby Progenitor is sent to them on orders of Xar. Mike branches out: “--- I also do not believe that he created the Nymphs, I believe he adapted them from a species that his brother Progenitors had developed eons earlier, and he had a few in his former Empire, and he sent for them, ... he then may have made a number of adjustments like when he made them only breed able by a Progenitor (himself), and he then used them as the perfect spies to help win the war with those pesky Archonin, 72 millennia ago, ... there were some older commands like no hand guns that were leftovers from centuries past, .... “ Self absorbed: This has explicitly NOT been answered BUT the hints are that Mael did create the Nymphs specifically to defeat the Achonin. As to avoiding hand guns, it would make them seem less threatening. I think that the Enshunu are not that different from the Achonin: a people that thrive on abuse. If the Achonin were into BDSM, nymphs would become highly prized for their ability to seem fragile, innocent, devoted and yet absorb massive abuse. Therefore I think the Nymphs were created by Mael for a specific purpose and having no further use for them, wiped of their memories and set free on Lenarra to live their simple lives at the urging of Valada. Mike: “And I think that the Achonin were the ones most likely to have created the powerful Astral / Psychic Dampening field later called the Shroud, and those nasty and horrible slavers, the Enshunu, might know where and what it is, now, ... “ 2ndMeconium: Very possible, and I think the Enshunu were surreptitiously given the tech by Mad Jonah and the few surviving Kyth’faren but that is total speculation on my part. Mike: “---- And John should get around to looking into the origins of the Shroud, and keep it going, ... maybe make some more, ... curtail Xar'aziuth's control a little more, ... I would've thought that Mael'nerak might have dug into the origins of the Shroud himself and that knowledge may still be buried in the all the multiple centuries of data at Kythshara, or was it lost in Nexus's memories, .... ;-) ttfn” Yup The Troll

2ndAndrocentric

For TSM to retain it's "soul", it would have to go hard core anime. The big screen belongs to Clown World.

Michael56Smith

.56: ... true, true, true, true, true, true and true, ... I was thinking an R rating or even a soft X rating, but you are correct, for it to be true to TSM it would need to be in the XXX Rating range, .... at least, ... so, who would be brave enough to do it? Must we wait until the 28th century? ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.57: I was thinking that they'd only have the Nymphs do their Kissing thing perhaps every 2nd or 3rd day, .... that would give them all a little recovery time for their eldritch energies, .... at least until they all grow more used to this way of expanding Edraele's network of wards, ... and it lets the Queen adjust too, ... -- Even should they ultimately develop that synthetic miracle psychic cum elixir, it would still be a drain on John's Psychic reserves, until his wards reached some very large numbers, I think, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

If you’re referring to the fact that he’s never going to catch up and is just making sure he’s getting paid at least once a month while putting out 6-8 chapters per year instead of 12.. then yeah. I guess I’m slow for thinking that’ll ever change. For now, I’m just going to switch to $1/month tier with a limit of 1 per month. It’s not like I care about the money, but I do not trust Tefler here to not just post 10 placeholders in a row someday. He’s certainly proving he’s not exactly trustworthy.

Newnotsure

Just some info here for those that loved reading Star Fleet Carl on his info blog it said he passed away June 29 2023 RIP SFCarl his story is not complete hopefully the family will post all of the completed chapters.

Anonymous

That was not the news I had been hoping to see today, but thank you for sharing it. Which blog was the post on?

Anonymous

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Newnotsure

His son has started to post all of the chapters to finish off the book and it be posted so people can purchase copies of it

Parzival

And here we are again. No more words added, no more updates. Seriously dude why do you piss all over the people that support you? I want to support you but you’re making it pretty difficult when you treat us with such contempt. You have a loyal fan base that would continue to support you into the sequel and side stories but not if you keep treating them like this. You might keep people while we’re enjoying this story but at this point most are gonna cut and run the second it’s done…

Anonymous

I'll still support you Tefler, but I've changed my sub from $10 to $1 and placeholders are to be not considered as a chapter, no chapter no payout!

Michael56Smith

.66: So, that's a change to minimal support, but some support from our Braveheart, ... it is just a good thing that the story is a good one, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Yep his son has just posed 2 chapters and SFC had already said that he had finished the epilogue and it was with the editors. He was starting to do the cover so he could post it on Bookapy for sale. His son is showing a lot of strength by still keeping to his schedule as well as dealing with his grief. RIP SFCarl

Anonymous

how do you not pay for a placeholder

Michael56Smith

.69: Well, you can just drop out of any Patreon support so that the 'new' placeholders will not get any of your hard-earned money, ... And you will still get the ones you paid for already, so you can drop back in later, without having missed much, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.70: *** Psychic abilities that John has gifted on the girls: Alyssa (Matriarch) powerful telepathy and very powerful telekinesis, she has also learned to teleport, and she has these powerful eldritch blasts that use up lots of power; Calara - (Strategist and Tactician) able to sense multiple possible futures and navigate towards the best options; Dana - (GEO) can sense materials and repair damage to gear, and create extremely powerful gravity wells (little black holes); Dr Rachel Voss - (MD) psychic healer, makes extremely strong shields too; Sakura (Bad Ass) cryokinesis, aerokinesis, Alacrity (speed), and has great skill with ninjato swords, and lately she shares her body and soul with John, to be rather unbeatable: the Maliri Twins - electrokinesis, and pyrokinesis, ... plus both are able to journey into the Astral; Jade - (Nymph) a natural shapeshifter, Now can alter her mass/size to a great degree; Jehanna - (ex-TFN lead reporter) has gained the Dark powers exhibited by John's guide, dark tentacles, shields, Javelins, and illusions; Helene - (Mermaid) besides her Aquatic talents, she gained Psychic Empathic projection, ... I would like to see her gain additional powers like Sakura has, Perhaps control of the water element rune, but most predominately I want her to get the Sound rune -- Offensive (Sonic blasts/waves) and Defensive (shields), Cuz sound can travel extremely well through water; ... and then there is Athena (the good Guide) she has the Light powers, and she has also mastered the short-range teleport ability that ole Larn'kelnar used, and she will teach to others: And all of Jade's Nymph sisters have abilities like she has: ... and there'll be others added in the future, mix match, new abilities and overlaps, ... fun times ahead, ... ;-) TTFN

Anonymous

I didn't suport him for the updates here but on SOL since they are finisched, and I don't have to read & rearange the speling errors, indeed it is a good story,

Rayce Royal

I understand your desire for Helene to have more offensive powers, but John has strictly and repeatedly forbid her from being in combat, since she is so innocent. I doubt that will ever happen. HOWEVER, someone neeeeeeds those sound powers :)

Michael56Smith

.73: Perhaps, Alyssa can get a recruitment volunteer selection from Lynette, a few retired T-Fed Military, around Admiral Eleanor Maybridge's age, that might like to be young again, and lovely, getting a second chance at life as a heroine / Lioness. A small few might wish to be recruited, ... and one of them might just become John's Mistress of Sound, .... maybe, .... -- Alternatively, John might recruit an Ashanath or two, .... already psychic, if they are seen to grow into sexy (175cm) 5 ft 9 in, D cup wards, ... then many more Grays will scramble to volunteer, ... they do love curves, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.74: Also, in regard to extra powers for Helene, if she got the elemental Water rune, she could learn to make a psychic shield, ... so John would like that, ... and she might just use her runic ability to save Dana from drowning, ... John would love that, ... -- Soon, with many more saved Abandoned relocating into old Abandoned Maliri cities (or just hugely under populated ones), ... Might an Abandoned Matriarch be needed? ... and if not Helene, then who? ... and should she then be the one to get the water or sound or some other rune? ... Just please save the Earth rune for the Glowing Queen, Niskera, ... --- I do like the idea of the Abandoned Matriarch having both telepathy and Hard-Water powers, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.75: Hey Rachel! (shh, really just Tef), .... after all that you've now learned from Mael's notes, .... do you think that you'd be able make a synthetic psychic cum / elixir to greatly aid with the recruitment of new psychic wards? needed for all the new wards in absorbed empires, ... this elixir would be specifically keyed to John's psychic network, ... or perhaps you would need a helpful purple pixie AI to aid you? -- Alyssa could sell it by the pint at her Trade Station, .... ;-) ttfn

Rayce Royal

Ok, I admit that I did not see the need for an Abandoned Matriarch. It will definitely be necessary, though, with that many recruits. Plus the idea of a Gray becoming a Lioness is very intriguing. Would she completely change shape to become nearly identical to the other girls, or would she retain some of her uniqueness? If she DID change to be shaped like the rest of the girls, she would definitely be worshipped back home :)

Michael56Smith

.77: ...yeah, only time and Tef will tell, .... and she'd definitely be worshiped, ... ;-) ttfn

AzureReader

Tef - you’ve been on 1/2 chapter a month pace all year. But to avoid falling behind further you’ve got to ramp up to delivering the 95% of Ch. 164 that’s left. Going from 50% of one chapter to 95% is a big jump in productivity. When you’re in fighting form you can do that but surgery ahead of you suggests you are not. So forget about catching up. Just try to deliver 164. Statistically you would be expected to only deliver half of Ch 164 this month, promise to deliver the rest by end of August, precharging for 168, not delivering anything in August if you have surgery and precharging for 169, and finally delivering the second half of 164 on September 30th when you precharge for 170. Delivering all of 164 this month will require a herculean effort in your condition and I will be among those that recognize that awesome effort. Hope you’re feeling better!

AzureReader

Back in chapter 158 when Alyssa found the issue with the wormhole generator she said it would only take a few minutes for Dana to fix the schematics and it would only take making a few new parts. John also said he wanted it fixed “ASAP”. It’s now six chapters later. Did they decide they like nausea?

Newnotsure

AzurReader I really hate to say if he follows what you just suggested I really will stop following him he needs to get stuff done, he says he has been sick, he needs time yes but if continues to NOT talk to his fans he will lose more of them

Michael56Smith

.81: Yes, Tef really does need to communicate with his fan base a lot more, not just at months' end, ... -- but many who will leave TSM because of lack of communication will have already left, .... the rest are hanging in there, ... -- an intern might help, ...;-) ttfn

Jim lynch

Any chance of getting one of these 4 placeholders/ stolen money this month as promised AGAIN ?.

Anonymous

Tef must fulfill his obligations; his placeholders are un-approved promissory notes. Patrons were taken from without permission. Some will stay, for loyalty. Some will stay, for sunk-cost fallacy. Some patrons will lower per-post subscription amount. I did. Tef should worry about (% of loyal patrons VS. % of sunk-cost patrons ).

Michael56Smith

.84: Here, I toss a few handfuls of Purina Troll Chow out to you few adolescent types, ... 1) this is Tef's story, sink or swim, ... 2) in the 7 1/2 years he has been writing this complex tale, it is not unusual for there to have been a few family problems and illnesses, ... 3) what is your belly aching going to do, anything? (You might be dreaming) 4) historically, he does surface at month's end, so let's wait a bit, okay? 5)... this middle of the month noise is rather annoying, please stop, ... -- ;-) ttfn

Florida Reader

Dude -- totally get it. I just quit feeding the trolls.

Keepit simple

Rereading Ben Shepherd series by BurntRedstone while I wait for more from Tef. I don't expect anything from Tef before midnight last day of month and don't expect him to catch up. So no rage from me....just want Faye back!!!!

Michael56Smith

.87: I really do love ALL of the BurntRedstone stories, the Ben Shepherd series is awesome, but the Jack Danner series is what first hooked me, .... and in the most recent Ben Shepherd installments, did you like the little crossover that brought back a few of the characters from the Ed (she who understands) series to help Ben? Loved the update, ... Or in the story Drive, they run into Ben Shepherd and company in Los Vegas, .... it was a very nice crossover to see, ... -- please continue to enjoy! ;-) ttfn

Tom Ray

that's it. I am reporting this place holder shit and am out...

Keepit simple

Totally agree! Have enjoyed everything that Redstone has written...from Jack to Ben to Stanley.

Anonymous

Yup. Do not let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya! Look, I'm certainly not happy about the many tangents TSM is currently on, but I still love the story and can't wait for the rest. Patiently.

Rayce Royal

Tom Ray, what exactly is your end game here? Are you looking to get your money back, or do you really think Patreon can force Tefler to write faster? I'm not sure what the purpose of reporting anything is here. While I do sympathize with you in your desire for more story, I do not agree with your method of trying to force faster installments. Truly, I am just as addicted to TSM as anyone else (with the possible exception of our wonderful Admiral Kester). I just don't quite understand how putting more insanity into Tef's life will in any way help. If you feel the need to leave, then we all wish you well. Feel free to come back once he has posted enough to keep you occupied. Please do not cause any trouble on your way out the door, though.

Keepit simple

Maybe he is like the paperboy in the old movie Better off dead....."he wants his Two Dollars!" 😀

Michael56Smith

.94: ummm, well I don't know, ... it makes a huge difference if the 'he' you mentioned is Tom Ray, or Tef, ... that wants the money, ... just a tad confused, ... ;-) ttfn

Keepit simple

Yep Tom Ray worried about a couple bucks is just silly. I want more from Tef but if he is at minimum per episode charge he is out what 2 or 3 bucks....probably could clean out change in my couch cushions and make him whole 😅

Parzival

You guys don’t seem to get it. It’s great that you’re happy and supportive but ripping people that have had enough is doing Tef a massive disservice. A LOT of his support base is unhappy (with good reason) and every time you are happily farewelling people, he loses money. You’re standing on the deck of a sinking ship encouraging people to stop helping and bail and what? If the ship sinks you’re gonna be happy and say I was loyal and went down with it? It’s not about the money, it’s never been about the money. I don’t think anyway here is bemoaning a couple of bucks. It’s the principle. People don’t like having no choice in being pre charged and then not only not get it, but get no updates. Time after time after time after time. Tefs word has become worthless. Most people want to keep supporting him but can’t seem to get his attention that they’re not happy with what he’s done. The fact he has ANY supporters left shows what a great story he’s written and I think everyone wants to see its conclusion. And nobody is going to get that if he loses so much fan base he can’t support himself this way anymore.

Parzival

Even the fact he allows all the vitriol in here to continue is just lazy. How hard is it to do a poll and say are you ok with the precharges? A) I’m not phased just want the story B) It’s not great but do what you gotta do C) I’m really unhappy and about to leave. At least get an idea of where your loyal supporters who’ve stuck with you through more than a year of this are at.

Keepit simple

I hear you Par. I don't like being constantly told that Tef hopes to catch up each month. We all enjoy the world that Tef created. I have suggested Tef get help to keep chapters coming. Tef made the decision to consider writing as a profession. Like any job, you need to do the work to get paid...normally. Agree that he should not precharge.

Rayce Royal

I am really not trying to be a Yes Man. I sincerely want Tef to succeed in this writing endeavor he's got going here. You both (Par and Keepit) are making excellent points. I am just trying to be as supportive as possible to someone who has gone thru some tough shit this year. Yes, we all go thru some rough times. IDK, maybe I've got it all wrong and Tef really doesn't care what any of us think or say. Not even sure he reads any of our comments. I'm just heavily invested in this universe and cannot imagine it not having a future. Call me an eternal optimist, I guess. Kinda like an addict awaiting his next fix, hoping it's as good as last time.

Tom Ray

Before Tefler turned off the amount of money he is making per chapter, It was around $8,500.00. So 4 place holders is around $34,000.00. THIS IS MY POINT!!!!!!!!! He made at least 34k for 4 non chapters. STOP the PLACE HOLDERS and post the chapters, catch up before taking more money. I can care less about 8 dollars he has charged me........ It is the accumulation of all the money has received without producing what he owes everyone.

Michael56Smith

.102: and after you cancel your membership, you might consider studying math again, business math, ... and take into account taxes, fees, and other smaller debts, all that reduces Tef's bottom line, ... ;-) ttfn

IanBio

https://graphtreon.com/creator/user?u=3814558 gives you the actual data. It is in fact a bit sad. Up until Tef started pre-charging, his income had been rising pretty linearly - it would have been $10,000 per month by now. Instead it has fallen from a high of about $8500 to $7200. He clearly has a lot of patient fans but his antics are genuinely costing him.

IanBio

Just leave for a couple of months and rejoin. You get a few chapters for a single charge. I did that, just enough to cancel the placeholders then rejoined. Tef and I are square now so I do not stress about it.

Anonymous

I am sure he does not read these comments well I had enough I wil request a refund from the admins since Tef is not producing but getting payouts,for a few lines of exuses!!

Michael56Smith

.109: Oh yeah Ian, besides the drop in income level received, he still is stuck with a huge Patreon fee, as well as UK taxes, both Kingdom wide and local, ... so what he gets to spend on himself and his family is perhaps half, if that, ... still a nice income, but not big enough for the crazy, over the top, wealth comparisons, ... I put those who try to play those sad comparison games into the 'they are not quite mature, yet' category, ... --- and yes, everyone should check out Tony Kester's Discord site, https://graphtreon.com/creator/user?u=3814558 ... for lots of goodies to discuss, ... it is well worth your time, ... ;-) ttfn

Michael56Smith

.110: ... I WILL NOT FEED THE TROLLS, ... I will NOT feed the Trolls, ... I will NOT feed the Trolls, .... no Purina Troll Chow for you! ... no matter how much they really are begging for it, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

MEN!!! Admiral Kester here. I am looking for volunteers to join an elite group. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to go to the new Discord Server, "The Invictus, a Three Square Meals Forum" and have fun discussing everything 3SM. DISMISSED!!! https://discord.gg/tXEPg9PuhM Also, leave "RAMMING SPEED" to me.

Tefler Fan 007

For a dollar a day you too could save a troll. (In the arms of an angel playing in the background)

Parzival

As I said it’s not about the money. I want to support Tef but he’s making it hard to even want to read his story with what he’s doing. I’d love to finish this and pay him for it and stick with him for the sequel but it seems he doesn’t want to listen to the many upset voices, only to the few who’d quite happily put the knee pads on. He’d rather struggle on his own than accept any of the help people would give him for free. An example would be why not delegate updates? Surely someone writing something once a week ‘Tef is about halfway just struggling with a few scenes’ etc would not only keep his loyal fans happy but would probably massively help his motivation. I have a virtual assistant (person not tech) and just having her there motivated me

Anonymous

Ladies and Gentlemen of TSM's fanbase: You may not realize there is a fanfiction by a lady named Recurve33 that is fleshing out the minor empires. It is an extensive work, now spanning 33 chapters and growing. She works closely with Tefler and would like to share her story with all of you. There is a website where she is having her work posted and the URL is: https://www.pchotshots.com/bmettee/TSM/recurve33/index.html She loves feedback and you can easily give that by joining the original discord TSM discussion board at https://bit.ly/TeflerDiscord and go to the fanfiction channel. Love to see you there. We have a very civil discussion board with thousands of members on the original Discord server for TSM. Read her stories, come check us out, and give Recurve some feedback. Have a great week!

Who Me

The Tefler TSM Discord is an absolutely wonderful place to discuss the story, delve into the underlying currents, and just associate with other TSM fans. Well worth the cost to join! (Psst - It's FREE!)

Michael56Smith

.118: It is the 19th of July, and according to some earlier status updates, .... Tef might finally be ready for his Gall bladder removal surgery late this month or possibly early next month at a bigger / better hospital, .... So, I am guessing that we might be close to a cut off time, similar to Tef's EOM deadlines, and we might just see a few new words, maybe even a whole chapter #164, ... wouldn't that be nice? Fingers are crossed for Tef's good health, .... and to have him once again slaving away on TSM installments very soon (I know, that's my self-interest speaking for me, but what can I say, .... I want to see Gahl'kalgor get his Progenitor ass royally stomped on, .... and to see what else those Maliri Males might have up their cloaked sleeves, .... a superpowered up Nova Lance maybe? That can blow Thrall shields away, ... wouldn't that be nice? And I really want the very next part in chapter #164, when the Thrall fleets are all confused by the great firepower of the invisible weapons platform, plus the Invictus, plus the Maliri Males cloaked battleships, .... oh, those thrall fleets are so toast! And I do hope that that arrogant Asshat Kal, does a wormhole jump there to see what's up, .... and gets some of his immortal tail feathers singed, "run away, Kal, run away," ... ;-) TTFN

Rayce Royal

Twenty days of July have come and gone, yet we are still patiently waiting for the rest of Chapter 164. Come on Tef ol buddy, we know you have a couple of chapters in ya this month :)

Michael56Smith

.123: .... yeah Tef, just pretend that Gahl'kalgor is a bad Gallbladder that just has to come out, ... then you'll breeze right through the story, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

My wife went through a similar experience to Tefler. She had an operation and acquired an infection which had to be cleared up. Instead of being in hospital for a few days, she was there for three months. Her convalescence took almost two years before she was functioning at a pre-operation level. During this time, there were periods when she was extremely tirred and washed out, and everything became a big chore. I am not suggesting that the cases are identical, nor am I seeking pity for her situation. We were lucky: we did not have the death of a father to deal with as well. Rather, I repectfully suggest that those who balk over a few dollars a month put themselves in Tefler's shoes. He has not disclosed his full medical history nor what else is ging on in his life, nor should he. People should be patient and understanding. I am confident that the episodes will continue, and that he will catch up eventually. Until then, I wish him a speedy and complete recovery. I am confident that Tefler will continue to churn out chapters when he is able to do. Until then, I urge people to stop being impatient and lacking in understanding.

Anonymous

I've been re-reading. Got to say Dana is my favorite!

Michael56Smith

.129: the Grand Engineering Overlord rocks!!! If not for Sparks they would still be barely able to fight pirates, ... and she's a very sexy red head, ... yummy!! ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

The only thing I'm not a big fan of. Is it never anyone fault when one of the girls or John dose something. It is there fault. It doesn't mean they got to get all piss off but it be nice to see someone get mad and stay mad for a bit.

Anonymous

Like when they go to the fortress and they destroyed it. It was someone fault. How would u not know she would react that way when she saw John dad..... probably don't bug much people. Probably just me.

Rayce Royal

Ok, I'm not sure I remember who suggested reading about Jack's adventures from BurntRedstone, but call me officially hooked. AMAZING!!

Rayce Royal

I mean, this had me snorting I was laughing so hard: "He rubbed his face. "Yeah, that's just a misunderstanding. I never claimed to have a doctorate. I need to have a shower as I'm a sweaty mess. I woke up naked in a sleep pit with seven naked Shreen. Lovely people by the way." Really looking forward to the rest of the stories :)

MVFast

Tefler, how many chapters are you planning? I could see you doubling what you’ve written. To end the progenitors, twenty to fifty isn’t unreasonable. If you’re tired of it, you could end it in ten. I’ll come out and ask. Do you have an outline of how you’re getting from here to the end, or are you creating it as you go?

Michael56Smith

.138: I personally think that Tef is very flexible, ,,, he might follow a partial outline, but he'll not be a slave to it, ... and while he does have plot developments in mind as he works on his chapters, but those can change, .... just my guess, .... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

For all the apologists who keep trying to say it's "just a hard time"... August 2021 was the last month that ended with Tefler caught up. Ever since then, he's been living in pre-charge land. That's 22 solid months of the exact same excuse... things took longer than expected, the story is complex, I'll get caught up this month... and 22 solid months of that being a bunch of bullshit. Sep '21 - Jul '22, Tefler was typically half a chapter to a full chapter behind. Aug '22 - Mar '23, Tefler was typically two chapters behind. Tefler has been at least three chapters behind for the last three months. This isn't improving, this is a steady patter of Tefler slowly taking more and more advantage of community good will. This isn't getting fixed any time soon. There's only been once in the last twelve months where Tefler produced two or more chapters. This isn't an attack on the story, this isn't hopes that Tefler fails. This is me shining a light on the actual recorded history of how the last three years have been going, which anyone supporter can see for themselves simply by looking at posts by month. This is me trying to raise a warning sign to Tefler. He has got to fix this. If he thinks this isn't having a negative impact on the financial support he receives, he just needs to look at earnings over the last few years, which have been trending down. This is me telling the apologists that they need to stop just trying to dismiss everyone's concerns. All that does is drive people away faster. It does not help Tefler in any way to see people like Michael56Smith. If he mistakenly believes blind loyalty and support is going to stay while he continues to get further and further behind, then there will be the reckoning of Tefler burning out all remaining good will in the community, and Tefler no longer being able to financially support himself through his writings. I want this story to continue, but this trend is the largest threat to its continued existence.

Michael56Smith

.144: It sounds as though you really want to take your bat and ball, and go home Rev. T. Please don't let us stop you, ... so long Amigo, .... Hasta la bye-bye, ... ;-) ttfn

Anonymous

Tefler focus on your health drink lots of filtered water

Anonymous

To the apologists that keep telling patrons to leave, you are Tefler's worst enemies. Quit driving away his support. Teflor does need to get it in gear. I know I've reduced my monthly support. Is that what we want? For Teflor to lose his support so the few remaining can say, "I always stuck with you, bud." To put it another way, do you want to be that friend that drove all his other friends away, just to monopolize his time? Sounds pretty sick to me.

AzureReader

Tef is his own worst enemy. Frustration tolerance level is a personal thing but no one needs to be convinced that endlessly increasing pre-charges is frustrating. People will leave when they feel like it, not because someone else did.

Anonymous

Well waiting for more chapters. I'm looking for something else to read. I really like space story's. Like someone finding a ship or gets one and upgrade and advantage. Any ideas of one's I might like??

Keepit simple

Did 64 ppl really "like" vote a placeholder post?

Anonymous

Wait 5 more day's and hey ho there is chapter 164 full and placeholder for ch.168

Jedi Khan

Alright, with the end of the month fast approaching and no word from Tefler, I'm going to go ahead and advise everyone here to expect more of what has been going on for awhile: a maybe finished chapter and another pre-charge. Because really, why expect anything different at this point? Now for the other part of this advisory notice: if you don't want to be pre-charged again, go ahead and cancel your subscription now before the end of the month deadline for Patreon billing. You won't be charged for this month if you do. Come back after the new year, maybe Tefler will have caught up with the chapters he's already charged for by then. Or, if you're really lucky, he'll have snapped the death spiral he's in and have actually gotten back on schedule, getting ahead of what we've already paid for. If that turns out to be the case, if you return after the new year, you'll have access to chapters you hadn't paid for, making them free. That's it for my advisory notice. Carry on.

Anonymous

Yea right I cancelled my subscription and still got charged

Anonymous

I am not cancelling. I have changed to only one payment per month and I am satisfied with a full chapter per month. In future when Tefler feels better and can deliver more chapters consistently I will revert to per chapter.

Evan

The Patreon cutoff is at midnight PT. Tefler might surprise us again…

Steven

wrong place

Michael56Smith

.220: ...and when is Dana going to have time to build them all Hoverbikes, a few of Dana's special "Lioness 9000's", those extremely over engineered machines for John's lovely biker gang, all wearing one of Alyssa's white leather Biker Jackets, .... just wait for the next Progenitor to show up, ... and then his Thralls will all be completely fascinated and relatively astonished, as well as no longer very menacing, panting with hoverbike longing, ... Those enemy Thralls are likely to strongly question their Progenitor's orders, ... the next Asshat's crew might just revolt, ... va-room, va-room, .... -- maybe John can win them over with a hoverbike or two? ... ;-) ttfn

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2023-08-22 14:18:09 .222: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... -- All of the work on Kythshara: the automated warrior 'bots, the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), .... the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, .... --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- brush her teeth, ... gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more too, ... ;-) ttfn
2023-08-22 01:25:38 .222: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... --- upgrade the mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- remember to brush her teeth, ... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... ---- Oh yeah, and there is also the project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John and also the physical device of Larn'kelnar's as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, but they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not the evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura? Tashana? Edraele, Dana and Rachel, and maybe Helene? ... ;-) ttfn

.222: ... let's see how many Grand Engineering Overlord projects Dana has dangling: -- finishing the correction to the wormhole generator, no more nausea, ... (or did she finish it already?), .... --- more / better weapons, ... I want to see a couple of mini quantum flux cannons on the Raptor, ... -- build a dozen or so copies of the Paragon 2.0 suits of Armor, ... ---- Examine and fix the Star Forges, ... so much to learn there, ... ----- use / test the Star Forges to make a couple mini–Quantum Flux Cannons for the Raptor 2,0 (now Raptor 2.1), ... --- upgrade the mass fabricators with her newest ideas, .... -- All of the work on Kythshara: _ the automated warrior 'bots, _ the defense system - turn it back on with a computer in charge (Daphne - in a new server?), _ the new sensors for the Lianelis Saevath Cloak breaker network sensors / stealth craft detection system, ... check on Faye (Rachel), and Dana needs to find any more Mael treasures, --- build a bunch of super hoverbikes, ... ---- build /construct a new White (non-deadly) Soul Forge, ... in her spare time, ... -- remember to brush her teeth, ... ---- gee is she ever busy, ... and I know there is more that I've forgotten too, ... ---- Oh yeah, and there is also the project with her Matriarch, Alyssa, to make a few 'magic wands' or Focusing devices, like Mael and Larn used, .... they can use the schematics from John and also the physical device of Larn'kelnar's as a guide, although I'd bet that Dana can improve on it some, but they'll make it from Mael's White Metal (MWM), or at least CA, and not the evil PBM stuff, ... all of John's sorceresses need a magic wand, right? ... Alyssa, Irillith, Jehanna, Sakura? Tashana? Edraele, Dana and Rachel, and maybe Helene? ... ;-) ttfn

Steven

Maybe when Faye rises "in whatever form", she can be the Matriach to John & co created AIs and digital networks, amongst other things. Daphne sibs.

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2023-08-23 02:50:08 .224: oh wow, ... a Cyber-Faye Matriarch for AI's, ... that would be Awesome, ... but first Faye and Irillith will need to restore a big chunk of Mael's computer and AI lore, so that they can 'create' more 'neato' AIs, both the Nexus model and the perky purple holo-pixie version, ... --- and Faye will be so very proud of her cyber-daughter, Daphne, .... --- And will the build any more AIs based on the 'Little One' model? .... ;-) ttfn
2023-08-22 22:36:18 .224: oh wow, ... a Cyber-Faye Matriarch for AI's, ... that would be Awesome, ... but first Faye and Irillith will need to restore a big chunk of Mael's computer and AI lore, so that they can 'create' more 'neato' AIs, both the Nexus model and the perky purple holo-pixie version, ... --- and Faye will be so very proud of her cyber-daughter, Daphne, .... --- So Perhaps they'll build a few more (really cute) AIs based on the 'Little One' model? .... they would be like Daphne's sisters and cousins, calling Faye their Auntie, ... --- thus, we have the beginnings of Faye's wide-spread digital family, ... Lots of useful AI's, ... ;-) ttfn

.224: oh wow, ... a Cyber-Faye Matriarch for AI's, ... that would be Awesome, ... but first Faye and Irillith will need to restore a big chunk of Mael's computer and AI lore, so that they can 'create' more 'neato' AIs, both the Nexus model and the perky purple holo-pixie version, ... --- and Faye will be so very proud of her cyber-daughter, Daphne, .... --- So Perhaps they'll build a few more (really cute) AIs based on the 'Little One' model? .... they would be like Daphne's sisters and cousins, calling Faye their Auntie, ... --- thus, we have the beginnings of Faye's wide-spread digital family, ... Lots of useful AI's, ... ;-) ttfn

Megan Donahue

Anybody else concerned that we've heard nothing since August?