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About Poll Winner (Patreon)

Published:
2018-07-11 12:07:02
Imported:
2020-09

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Since Dawn frorm Pokemon is winning the poll and there are lots of mixed reaction about her. I'm not actually planning to do a sex artwork of her or the like, something like a close up view of her, holding a pee-pee with white stuff all over her face.

We can do a poll of what I think would be ok for her to draw.

We can also discuss it below by commenting.

Comments

Anonymous

what‘s the point in voting for the loli and then receiving a non loli version =(

kimmy77

The poll is not the final decision. Another idea that comes to my mind is to have both version, loli and teen/adult, same pose but on separate artwork. When done, I'll indicate which one is loli and which one is teen/adult version.

Anonymous

I get that alot of people don‘t like lolis, but on the other hand a loli won the poll, so there is interest in that kind of content. Can‘t we agree to something to satisfy both sides? Maybe a 3/6 month cooldown for lolis. That way we lolicons can get something every now and then and others who don‘t like or flat out hate lolis don‘t lose alot. I mean we still need to win the poll to get loli artwork and I feel like if there are enough people that vote for lewd lolis to win, then we should get something at least. A cooldown on lolis (not individual characters but lolis as a whole) or a seperate loli poll every 3/6 months would prevent a „loli flood“ while still rewarding us lolicons. Please consider it.

Anonymous
>>13754009

That would be really nice, because a poll like this will always result in the same: Loli wins the poll with let‘s say 20% then on the lewd/v1 poll those 20% vote for lewd and the other 80% vote for an adult version. That results in no lolis ever =(

Anonymous

Drawing her close to her current form but making her have "older" body proportions would be fine in my opinion. As long as she looks old enough I think most people would be satisfied.

Anonymous

Yes, her looking older is fine by me, although to our apparent Loli lover Marlon, it'll un-lolify her. Ideally there wouldn't be Lolis (or they'd all be adjusted to be an actually alright age/proportions. No lolicons please. My opinion. I'm fairly certain that the majority technically doesn't want Lolis (accounting for all non-loli characters voted for). Rob has it right to make this Loli stuff tolerable

Anonymous
>>13754619

44% of the votes were spread across 4 lolis, yes the majority voted for teen/adult characters, but there alot (almost half of the votes) of people voting for lolis. Please don‘t hate us, everyone likes something different, we lolicons don‘t flame people for liking big boobs either. Lets‘s just find an agreement, to make both side happy.

Anonymous

I stand by my point, and honestly.i find the only thing here worth flaming about is the sexual attraction to the body of a 10 year old girl. That's just not right, if she was older fair enough that's fine but THAT young is just.. not something all that pleasant for me and numerous others

Anonymous

Preach Marlon Swertz Preach! your fighting the good fight ^u^

Anonymous
>>13754619

If big breasts is your issue then pick a character with small breasts. There is a difference between that and a Loli.

Anonymous
>>13754619

There is a difference. I don‘t dislike big breasts, I just prefer lolis. And there is a difference between a loli and a girl with small breasts. It‘s not all about tits...

Anonymous
>>13754619

You made it sound as if it was merely about breasts. So it is your wish to fuck a 10 year old girl? That is...

Anonymous
>>13754818

That‘s why I‘m trying to find a solution for that problem. There a are people who like lolis and people who dislike them. Just removing lolis does the lolicons among us wrong and bringing alot of loli content (especially without warning/labeling) upsets the „normals“. There can be a way inbetween to satisfy everyone, I,ve already made some suggestions in an other comment.

Anonymous
>>13754619

Boobs were just an example, because lolis are usually associated with flat chests and the „anti loli people“ are often associated with liking „cow tits“. Lolicon and pedophilia are not same thing. I would never lay my hand a real underaged girl, that is wrong. Lolis are different, they aren‘t real so it might be weird but it‘s not hurting anyone.

Anonymous
>>13754619

The norm does not involve desiring to have sex with a 10 year old little girl. I can not comprehend how any sane person would want that, it's a line even I would not consider crossing. Personally I'd be all too happy to be rid of Lolis entirely, but you people insist so dearly to have them (And subsequently go against the Majority). If you were to ask me. Lolicons seem awfully similar to paedophiles from my perspective, and I have an EXTREME disliking to any paedophile. It is just not right. I would like to reiterate a TEN YEAR OLD GIRL. You desire to see a ten year old girl doing lewd and nude things. That is plain wrong. I try to be fair in my criticism even if I've been failing to do so as of late, but Lolis are something that is just crossing the line for me.

Anonymous
>>13754619

Everyone has a different taste. There are alot of things people like, that others don‘t understand. There are fetishes for everything and most people don‘t get why people like something if they don‘t like it aswell.

Anonymous

An overwhelming majority are wanting her drawn in Adult form. I don't see Lolicons scraping this one back.

Anonymous

While I'm overjoyed that we're finally getting someone from Pokémon, I agree that she should absolutely be aged up to adult form first. And while I see that some of the others' reasoning for loli stuff is small boobs, and I too like small chest, there are plenty of adult characters, or characters that can be aged up to adult, that would fit this. Like an adult May, or an adult Mallow or Moon.

Austin Eisenring

I didn't even know there was something wrong with the polls. Although that is what happens when you pick any girl from Pokemon

El Repuesto

Meh, whatever people say goes, I am "meh" either way. Although, I'm glad that you make a sub-poll of this kind cause is a better way to stir things up and reach an agreement. Great job on that part

Anonymous

Yeah, there's a fine line between petite and loli. Even in the show, the way they draw and design them sometimes makes them look older but just petite. It's a confusing fine line. These days, bigger breast = they're older. Unless it's very blatant, I just think they look old enough.

Anonymous
>>13754619

I must ask Marlon, looking at the polls. Where is your 44% percent of Lolicon now, Hmmm? It seems a VAST majority have no desire for your "True Loli" stuff. Thank goodness.

Anonymous
>>13754619

The attraction to loli's has to do with the attraction to animated characters itself. im a loli lover but think pedophiles and people that think that way toward a real little girl is absolutely horrendous and disgusting. Again it’s attraction to the animated aspect of the character. Same reason any of us are patron’s to Kimmy here 😉

Anonymous
>>13754619

And goldfish that’s because Kimmy wants to do something else since this is causing such a ruckus. So adult version is the next best thing

Anonymous

I'm glad that Kimmy is doing this, but more importantly thank fuck 86% (as of this writing) want it to be loli & decidedly non-pedophilic, or an adult version V2/3.

Anonymous

Kimmy, this place poll makes zero sense. Obviously people that didn't want her to win are going to vote and adultify her. Only the people that voted for dawn have a right to do a poll on how she is drawn. There is also the issue of altering the character. Under normal circumstances, you have every right to drawn her how you see fit. But this is a community poll. If a character wins, you HAVE to do something with the characters actual art you didn't really draw them. Finally, you are blatantly making this poll to satisfy people with less abnormal in their 2D women, which is blatantly discriminatory. That is why I'm saying that if you do an adult v3, you need to also do a v2 or v1 of original artwork for fairness reasons.

Anonymous
>>13760587

Ahh, a lolicon complaining I see. Again, the majority DON'T want Loli, and technically the majority didn't vote for Loli artwork originally. Additionally read the above comments regarding Loli and it's paedophilic nature, and peoples valid complaints about it. Plus if 44% voted for Loli originally, why have only 26% voted for Loli here? Seems to me not as many people actually want Loli artwork as you seem to think. This is a democracy afterall.

Anonymous
>>13760587

Also isn't it worse to have a vested sexual desire for a 10 year old? Just saying

Anonymous
>>13760587

Also technically Kimmy can do whatever the fuck he wants. We may pay him but at the end of the day it is HIS decision as to what happens, so no he does not HAVE to do anything.

Anonymous
>>13760587

I'm not a lolicon. I'm not an expert on tropes but I'm usually into different things. You also don't seem to understand how polls work. Look at the poll for v3 artwork winner. The poll below not above. There are obviously more votes not for dawn spread across other entries. The majority didn't vote for dawn, then how did she win the poll? It's not about what the majority wants, polls are about what the majority voted FOR not AGAINST. That's what's wrong with this above poll. No character has ever won because the majority wanted them, they won because the majority voted for them.

Anonymous
>>13760587

goldfish seeing as you missed my other comment. Kimmy wants to do something else since this is causing such a ruckus. So adult version is the next best thing. If people didn’t want loli’s, They wouldn’t have chosen one now would they

Anonymous

Dawn is dawn either way honestly shes one of the most well designed character in Pokemon the amount of complaints if it were May would be non existent tbh lol hell Ruby is 14 not once has anyone voiced a complaint over that

Anonymous
>>13761874

True, but Ruby is closer to the legal age and considerably less Loli. She isn't designed as a Loli, which is far more acceptable in my opinion, not to mention that the time jump between Volume 3 and volume 4 is a year or two I think, which pushes her over 16 towards 18.

Anonymous
>>13754818

Honestly i get where you are coming from but at this point it just seems like you’re trying to force feed people your point everyone has their own tastes just cause people like certain things in animated format does not make them one in real life that goes for many things from Rape,beastiality, etc

Anonymous
>>13760587

I say just let Kimmy draw whatever he wants however he wants!

Anonymous
>>13760587

Just going to point out that some of us that voted for Dawn did in fact expect it to be a non-loli version. I don't get the whole loli thing and I'm not going to present an opinion on it. Just going to say that some of us wanted Dawn as a fully developed adult.

Anonymous
>>13760587

Oh, now you're all for 'the majority vote' and 'democracy' when it suits you. You're ridiculous, Goldfish.

Anonymous
>>13753746

yeah rip loli lovers, i think adult form only won so we don’t get somthing too censored. I’ve read through most of the posts and its just a really vocal minority complaining. You wont get too many people defending the idea of lolis either because a certain someone would attack you for it and claim a moral high ground by putting it together with pedos. People voted for dawn not adult dawn. Also she seems like a teenager to me even though shes aged younger for I assume younger audiences. I wouldn’t even consider her loli xD

Kampico

I concur the first idea, reminds me when you drew Kanna Kamui. But I don't think 14 is still considered as loli (maybe up to 12, but I don't make the age rules).

Anonymous
>>13754619

The current poll suggests about 20% want a lewd loli version. that‘s 1 in 5, we can‘t just kick every fifth person in kimmys community in the face, because there are people who don‘t want lolis. If you don‘t like lolis, don‘t download it. A loli won the poll, it happens extremely rarely and I think you can deal with one artwork less for you this month.