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“While we cannot tell you what to do, sister, we can at the very least advise you… and I cannot help but question your decision,” the Dragonfly True Royal said as she looked at Vesperia. “You still have time to reconsider.”

Vesperia looked at her sister and sighed. “I feel like this would be best for me.”

Odonestra also sighed as she shook her head. “It is a risk you do not need to take. The Endless Empire can provide you all the protection you need. Our resources surpass what any other factions would possibly be able or willing to provide. Our unique treasures can only be found here… are you truly willing to forsake all that, even if it is only temporary?”

“I appreciate your concern; I truly do. And as you said, sister, I will stay here for at least a little longer,” Vesperia answered as she smiled. “But I can’t remain forever.”

This was far from the first time they had this discussion, as Vesperia had dropped a bombshell shortly after she had fully absorbed all the energies of the old artifacts of the former Vespernat True Royal. She declared that within five years, she would leave the heartlands of the Endless Empire once more and go somewhere the other True Royals truly didn’t want her to go. Somewhere, they couldn’t go.

The ninety-third universe.

Some had questioned if Vesperia could even go, but she knew instinctively she could. Despite being a True Royal, born in the first universe in a ritual deep within the Order of the Malefic Viper’s headquarters, she was a native of the new universe. At least, she kind of was.

She knew the egg she had hatched from was originally from a system event her Sire called a Treasure Hunt. Anything taken from there was naturally considered native to the new universe, even if the world of Yalsten in which it took place was technically from a far earlier universe.

Vesperia also had to admit that she liked the implications of her origin. That she was a treasure her Sire had brought back. It was an odd thought she didn’t share openly but one she very much cherished.

“Alas, I still do not understand why you find it so imperative to leave,” Odonestra said. “Especially to somewhere we cannot help protect you.”

“You not being able to go also means many other threats can’t. And I will be at the side of the Chosen of the Malefic Viper, as well as many other powerful figures of this new universe. I will be far from defenseless, and besides… I believe I can take care of myself against most threats I will face in a nascent universe. As long as I don’t decide to venture somewhere unwise,” Vesperia answered, trying to put her fellow True Royal’s mind at ease.

It didn’t work as well as she had hoped.

“The risk is still far too high… Vesperia… sister… you are the only True Royal of your Lineage. Even if there is only a minuscule chance you could die, it isn’t worth the risk. You represent all of the Vespernat. Their entire future. Even if you wish to go, can’t it be after you have matured into your powers more? Until you can leave some insurance behind? There are many potential partners out there who are already interested, too, so maybe go after you have left a possible successor? I know it may be a few more decades, but-“

“But nothing,” Vesperia cut her off as she got a bit more serious. “While I perfectly understand your concern, I also know that staying here is not my Path. While this is my Hive… it’s only one of them, and I have to return to the other. I have to get some level of independence. Even as I am saying it, I know how odd of a notion this is for a True Royal, but perhaps it is one of the things I inherited from my Sire.”

Odonestra looked like she wanted to argue more as a figure popped into existence in the middle of the conversation. Instinctively, the other True Royal placed a barrier around Vesperia as this new figure attacked… with a barrel filled with confetti.

“Celebration time!” the Unique Lifeform turned divine menace said with a big grin. “Here with your unscheduled and unrequested update on Jake in Nevermore.”

“We are having an important discussion,” Odonestra said, looking at the All-God Legion without even trying to hide her annoyance.

“I know, I know. I was trying to listen in. It’s pretty rude to make isolation barriers like that, but seeing as I am in a good mood, I’ll let bygones be bygones. Say, does the Endless Empire have anyone at Nevermore right now? I am sure you know what’s happening.”

“We have allies from the United Tribes who are relaying information to us, and they have sent a representative that is on their way there right now,” Odonestra answered. “And, yes, we are aware that there have recently been movements that include several Primordials.”

“Do you know the cause of these movements?” Minaga asked hintingly.

“I would assume it is my Sire due to your excitement,” Vesperia chimed in.

“Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Yep, Jake is once more the catalyst of chaos as he has initiated an impromptu Primordial reunion by being himself. As for how he did it…”

Minaga purposefully had a long dramatic pause as he stared at the two of them, Odonestra far less interested than Vesperia.

“No drumroll? Disappointing, should have brought my own. Anywho, Jake did a Challenge Dungeon and ended up beating up a low-level image of Valdemar within, making Valdemar curious and head over. Then Jake also had some interactions with another god’s image from the Pantheon of Life, making Nature’s Attendant and this god he interacted with also headed over. Considering the Viper was already there, others also decided that maybe something cool was going on and went to attend what is effectively just a watch party for Vilastromoz’ Chosen,” Minaga shared with a big grin on his face.

Odonstra frowned at the explanation as Vesperia just smiled. “It seems like my Sire is having an enjoyable time in Nevermore.”

“Oh, no, not at all. He just entered another Challenge Dungeon he really hates and is having a miserable experience, as far as I can tell. Like, he’s doing okay but definitely not having a good time.”

Vesperia was a bit worried hearing that but just nodded. She hoped he would find enjoyment somehow anyway, as she knew her Sire did better at things he enjoyed.

“Anyway! That’s what I came to share with the group! Oh, and also, I can kind of guess what you were arguing about, and I would advise you to just allow your little sister to follow her instincts or at least Jake’s instincts. Things somehow tend to work out well when that happens,” Minaga said as he looked at Odonestra before he did an exaggerated wave. “Toodaloo!”

With that, he disappeared again, leaving Vesperia with her sister. They looked at each other for a moment before Odonestra sighed. “Let us talk about this another time, alright? I never questioned the capabilities of your Sire… but he is ultimately still just a C-grade, no matter how much potential he shows.”

Vesperia nodded, unable to argue against that point. She continued her practice and nurturing of her nascent hive for several weeks until Minaga popped back in, having dragged Odonestra along again. At least Vesperia thought so for a moment, but it quickly became clear they had just arrived at the same time due to recent happenings.

“Update time! Jake finished the Challenge Dungeon he really didn’t like, and guess what happened next?” Minaga said with excitement.

“The sheer audacity of a mortal to do something like that, it’s-” Odonestra muttered.

“Shh, let her guess,” Minaga interrupted the True Royal as he looked expectantly at Vesperia.

“I would guess he did something unexpected again? Seeing as he didn’t enjoy the Challenge Dungeon, I doubt it is due to his performance in there, and my sister’s comment makes me believe it involves gods… so did he say something to the observing gods or otherwise end up interacting directly with them? Wait, was he perhaps summoned into the same place as several gods and acted as he usually acts?” Vesperia answered, having put together the limited clues provided and her knowledge of Jake and how she had seen him interact with the Malefic Viper.

“That’s… incredibly accurate. Huh,” Minaga muttered. “Well, glad to hear you skipped out on inheriting any of his intelligence! But yeah, that is exactly accurate. Not just that, he…“

Minaga continued to explain everything that had happened, Odonestra even engaging a bit in the conversation as she had been relayed what had happened from the United Tribes and even given a recording.

After she and Minaga left, Odonestra seemed a bit more positive and said she would have a meeting with the other True Royals to discuss things.

More time passed, and once more, the two gods decided to visit. Minaga was in a mixed mood this time around, and Odonestra looked a bit happier than usual.

“So, he did another Challenge Dungeon,” Minaga muttered. “My Challenge Dungeon… and, well, he did as expected, I guess. Man, I doubt anyone is going to beat his record in my dungeon in this era unless some other monstrous bastard appears. Or he has any kids who get even more annoying variants of his Bloodline… no, I don’t even wanna think about it.”

He shuddered a bit at the end, clearly not keen on the thought.

“Also, your… wait, what is that Sylphian Hawk even to you? I know she refers to Jake as her uncle, and since he is your Sire… I guess half-sister, maybe? Maybe cousin? No idea. Anyway, it’s not like she is much better, but at least she doesn’t have a damn broken Bloodline and is a little disrupted still,” Minaga continued talking, sounding a bit miffed.

Vesperia smiled, happy to hear that her Sire continued to do well. It was also fortunate that the Sylphian Hawk was doing well. She knew that the hawk called Sylphie was Jake’s first creation using his unique abilities, and it was not at all surprising she also excelled. Based on what Vesperia had heard here and there, his second creation, Sandy, was also doing well as the Chosen of the Boundless Hydra.

“Vesperia, I also had a meeting with the other True Royals,” Odonestra said. “And we agree that it would be beneficial for you and the Endless Empire to continue strengthening the bond with your Sire, so perhaps going to the new universe is a wise idea. We also have to factor in the fact that many special events and titles are available to those from the newly initiated universe, and it would truly be a waste for you not to also take part in these and reap the benefits.”

She had done a complete one-eighty, making Vesperia look at her surprised as Minaga teleported over and leaned in.

“Psst. I think they got a recording of when Jake beat Valdemar…. I can’t really blame them for getting a bit excited at that,” the Unique Lifeform said.

Vesperia shook her head, not sure what to say. It wasn’t as if the approval of her fellow True Royals was a requirement for her to go to the ninety-third universe, but their approval did take a weight off her shoulders.

“Also… when you go, would it be possible to bring along some items for us?” Odonestra asked. “We can discuss details at a later date, but we thought that-“

Still smiling, Vesperia just nodded along, not at all surprised and having entirely expected this. While the chances were low, why wouldn’t they give her Sire a bunch of eggs he could potentially end up turning into True Royals if he one day got the inspiration to play around with his special abilities?

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Picking dungeons wasn’t an easy endeavor. Especially as Jake didn’t know which one to go with. He only had two dungeons to go and, quite frankly, way more time than he needed. Minaga’s Labyrinth had only taken a bit over a year despite Jake passing so many damn sections.

The primary reason for this was his speed simply being too high. Many of the earlier floors had far more time than Jake needed, and even when he had two weeks, he didn’t even take more than a day. When he did begin to have a hard time, the amount of time he had to do the section was also lowered, as if Minaga just wanted him out of there. Which, in fairness, he probably did.

Now, with Minaga’s Labyrinth completed, Jake no longer had an easy option. He didn’t know anything about the two other Challenge Dungeons, and while he had some guesses, it was ultimately still just guesswork. Yet, despite not knowing what he was walking into, Jake was confident in gaining a high evaluation and going for that overall +100% boost from all the Challenge Dungeons combined. Where did his confidence come from?

Well, primarily an overly inflated ego and pure arrogance.

Anyway, as Jake didn’t know if he wanted to do the Endless Journey or the House of the Architect Challenge Dungeon, he decided to leave it up to chance. Standing back at the place where everyone entered the Challenge Dungeons, Jake counted how many entered which dungeon for the next ten minutes flat and would go with the one most people picked.

And that’s how Jake ended up going to the House of the Architect as his second-to-last Challenge Dungeon. As usual, he went up to the door and placed his hand on it before accepting the prompt and getting whisked away.

In the very next second, he opened his eyes again and found himself standing in the middle of a large area. His sphere instantly spread out, and Jake instinctively released a Pulse of Perception as the inside of the Challenge Dungeon was laid bare.

Jake found himself inside a massive building, currently in the central hall. The entire thing was built like an atrium, and looking up, Jake could see the ceiling several kilometers above. As he was still standing there looking, a system message popped up.

Nevermore Challenge Dungeon Entered!

You have entered the House of the Architect. A place for creators, inventors, researchers, artists, and all those who progress both their own Path and the Paths of others. It is somewhere you can let your creative spirit loose and design whatever your heart desires.

Your task is to create something that will impress the Architect. What you create is entirely up to you, and all materials required in your process and can be purchased using Merit Points. Merit Points can be earned by performing tasks within the House of the Architect or turning in creations you do not deem good enough to submit to the Architect herself.

Creations can include anything. Be they a crafted product, displaying an upgraded or newly created skill, a student you help improve, or even a simple book written with your thoughts. Anything can be submitted, and anything can be evaluated. As long as it is of your design. Should you find yourself doubting, simply ask one of the many attendants if your idea is acceptable.

Due to the nature of the House of the Architect, unique creations are evaluated incredibly highly. Submitting several Creations too similar to one another will result in a worse evaluation and leave the Arhitect unimpressed. Diversity is thus key if you wish to stand out and earn the highest overall evaluation possible. During this Challenge Dungeon, some items will be limited. WARNING: entire living beings with Truesouls cannot be submitted as Creations. Other restrictions may also apply. Ask an attendant if you are unsure if your creations can be submitted.

Good luck, and may your Creations inspire awe.

Objective: Submit 10 Creations and submit them to the Architect for evaluation.

Current objective: Make a Creation and present it to the Architect.

Creation-submissions remaining: 10

Jake stared at the message for a while as a thought popped into his head.

I really bloody hope you can gain levels in this Challenge Dungeon…

Comments

Tvukkek

🕺

Anonymous

Thanks for the chapter

Thenais

Thx for the chappy

Den

"Vesperia also had to admit that she liked the implications of her origin. That she was a treasure her Sire had brought back." Awwwwwwwww ❤️

Ritsu

This seems like a good time to take a crack at grimoire creation.

CinnamonHawk263

Nice to see that our favorite wasp is doing well.

Linzey17

Well Jake is going to smash this dungeon haha. This will be a cakewalk for him

Gavin

Oh shit this is actually one where Jake can truly excel. Oh I'm curious where this will go

Neil

Hmm, could be a chance for Jake to experiment with his Origin energy on something other than people. I assume a skill or two and alchemy will be the bulk number-wise.

BerciTheBeast

TFTC! Let's see the 10 nonsense creations he comes up with. If he submits a legacy tome, is it then in the loot pool for all future system dungeons?

Michael Fannon

Great chappy. So here's a thought: if Jake manages to get an arcane affinity soul flame, would that count as a unique creation?

Naotsugu97

Alchemy time!

Stevean Bozek

Oh it said skills and items. He created eternal hunger and his mythical skill himself, I wonder if those count or if everything has to be made inside the dungeon. Cause those right there would probably give him ridiculously good merit points to get materials needed to make other insane shit. Maybe he could even make his custom arcane soulflame in this place. Yeah Jake has this dungeon in the bag.

JJMand

It would seem that it is once again skill upgrade time, among other things.

Tsorov

worse evaluation and leave the Arhitect unimpressed. Diversity is thus key if you wish to stand ->worse evaluation and leave the Architect unimpressed. Diversity is thus key if you wish to stand

Jana

Sooo, Sylphie got windy instincts, Sandy got glutton instincts and Vesperia got Hive Instincts (? Not sure here)

Tsorov

Thx for the chapter and the PO-Bee (or wasp, but that doesn't sound that good)

Pablo Barbatto

He better create his own unique Jake's Arcane Soul Fire

Den

Oh my gods looking at Vesperia referring to Sylphie and Sandy, two utterly broken beings, as Jake's first creation and second creation TRULY drives home how much of a god he already is and how his legend will become something truly grandiose.

Sean

Lol they think he is just gonna resurrect all of their lost queens why? I feel like those eggs will be forgotten in the inventory. Yay for some alchemy!!! What kind of random crazy OP poison is he going to mage?

frankie doerr

I say jake is going to create something with his origin energy that gets all the gods in a clamor but annoys the worm god even more because everyone wants to use it maybe something the titan ends up using we haven’t really gotten much out of the titan

Cory Sauls

This is gonna be an interesting dungeon

Ritsu

He got it when he evolved his profession to C-grade. Never did anything with it yet.

Jason Hardman

I wonder if origin shenanigans will be involved 😁

JJMand

True, I wonder which one he could upgrade, maybe pride since that seems to resonate with his bloodline. Or maybe touch when he is trying to make another creation.

Vinstro

Alchemy is a go, people! The Alchemist is in the House [of the Architect]!

Seen Death

Do they have a truesoul? Regardless, i think once the gift is given, it cant be returned- and that arcane soul flame would be extremely valuable to him. The creations in the dungeon might have to be made with their materials though, so it might not even be an option?

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Allpa

So I guess he will make an origin core and maybe one of those tomes that grants his profession.

Seen Death

They would probably be useful in their own right- potentially even more so than jakes regular bee larvae thingy (although idk what some ectomorphs could do besides combat? Like with the bees they could take care of a garden and whatnot, i wonder if they all have some sort of specialty other than combat) - although they would be a gift and would ultimately be up to jake - id imagine that would make him the highest priority for death in the robot race (above even the godqueens themselves)

Alex R

and all materials required in your process [and] can be purchased using Merit Points -> delete and

Seiryus

They don't. The cradle kills the thing the moment it acquires a truesoul and becomes an elemental

Adam

Villy is going to enjoy rubbing Valdemars nose in his jabs at Jake's profession after this challenge dungeon.

Valhazstromoz

YES VESPYS COMING HOME EVERYONE YAYYYYYYY!! also she's freaking adorable omg and minagas such a bro keeping her updated

Anonymous

So the architect is a female, just like Rigoria the Maker. Not a coincidence methinks. Automata legion about to get some of that jake juice everyone is so thirsty for.

Seen Death

Lol whoopsie i made a wife for the starseizing titan (i might have his name wrong, and idk if thats even the titan ur talking about) - idk if he has much origin juice left tho- its been... 3? years or something since his lvl 1 fight with voldy- although according to the rules the turned in creations cant have a truesoul so that wouldnt be an option anyways

SinCinnamon

Grimoire Time!

Christopher Hendrix

I really hope Jake makes something crazy again. TFTC!

Adam Owada

So much potential for shenanigans I love it. Alchemy, messing with origins, curse energy, skill upgrades or skill creation, teaching others to some absurd effect... heck he could write a book about his life story ;)

Anonymous

For the Endless Empire it's a very good idea to make sure he has the eggs. The cost for them is nothing compared to how much they've already gained from Vesperia and there's always the chance Jake gets bored... It might be 3 eras from now, it might be tomorrow, it might never happen but now there's a chance he'll randomly just pop out another True Royal.

Darnell Maxwell

1) I love Vesperia and any chapter she appears in! 2) I know he's probably gonna focus on alchemy but he has two mythic skills. Those would probably count as two creations right there.

Anonymous

Thanks for the chapter! VESPYYYYYYY!!!!

Seen Death

Im curious what hes going to make haha. Is he capable of creating a "unique" potion? Hes good at making potions for himself but i think theyre pretty much well known recipes? I could imagine him making a blasphemous arcane crystal sculpture of villy or maybe even all the primordials in the meeting for the Lolz (it might have to all be in 1 sculpture, idk how many "similar" items it takes for it to become boring to the architect)

Joshua Morris

Ooooh this is a good time for him to use his Create Grimoire skill and play around with his cursed fragments.

One Winged Angel

*Creates a Primal Dragon Egg that can evolve into an Eldritch Wyrm of Vecna* Jake: *Holds it up with a dopy smile* "I MADE DIS!!!!"

Anonymous

Yeah, but it falls apart a bit when you realize that he had bought her.

Captain Nuclear

Oooo. Do you think Creation of True Royals, and record touched beings like sandy and sylhpie, count ?

Pablo Barbatto

It's not a gift, the creation is just evaluated not gifted. Jake on bloodline will not let him loose part of himself to give to one someone else. It not who he is.

Shukketsu

Too bad the Challenge Dungeon specifically forbids submitting beings with a true soul or Jake could just go with a totally new species as his creation

Michael

I love how sylphie, sandy, and now vesperia have inherited aspects of Jake's bloodline but ironically enough, his inability to be chained down and subjected to staying in one place forever. Jake is the primal hunter, thus sylphie inherited a large part of that in the case of her nature as a hawk. Sandy gained a variant of Jake's hunting nature in the real of constantly hunting for "snacks". While vesperia is where I'm unsure of where her hunting instinct comes in. In my opinion of what it could be: vesperia has wanted to be basically viewed as Jake's daughter from day one, and has wanted to earn the respect and adoration of her father since her birth. While Jake has shown he does have a kind of love for her as his creation, she still is "hunting" for that constant approval and adoration she craves. Thus her need to go to the 93rd universe to be back where Jake was born, is her way of truly returning home herself so she can have every waking moment to prove herself to Jake in every way she can

JJB4345_80_815

This should be an interesting mini-arc! It will be fun seeing what Jake comes up with to impress the Architect! Thank you for the chappy!

Anonymous

Jake has that title from making Eternal Hunger. I forget what its called, but it boosts the quality of everything he creates.

Johnny_B

Upgrading the malefic skills wouldn't be particularly unique tho. He better work on his genuine Jake skills. Too bad he already upgraded Gaze.

Anonymous

It's been quite a while since we last saw Jake enjoying a crafting binge. I'm looking forward the next few chapters.

Cryfdwr

I thought about that, too. But it sounds like whatever he submits needs to be created while he is in the challenge dungeon.

Klown Keidra

I don't think that is her motivation. She is a wasp. Her name is a derivative of the social wasp family. I think her definition of hive isn't just Jake, but those who Jake also thinks of as part of "his". Haven, His Family, Sandy, Slyphie. These are all part of Jake's Hive, and thus, part of Vesperia's, and she needs to be a part of it.

Anonymous

Such a good chapter. Another interesting challenge dungeon... nice. Update on Vesperia... awesome. Vesperia heading to the 93rd universe... perfection.

Anonymous

It's like they all have an inherent "instinct" that is similar to Jakes but just a mini version... makes me think that commonality will be how people eventually figure out his bloodline...

Hellhound

I can see this being a good opportunity for Jake to use his ability to manipulate origin energy, and possibly break another record. Although it also seems like a dungeon that Arnold also will probably get the maximum reward to.

Grond (James)

I love this chapter. But I admit I was hoping to see her reaction to Jake clashing his aura with Valdemar

ReadingObsessed

That WARNING seemed targeted at Jake 😂

Anonymous

It would be sooo cool if Arnold ended up in second place! He’s one of my favorite characters, as he gained his power purely through his own merit. The image of just some guy being the leader of the void delegation is also hilarious.

Tommy

EXPERIMENTATION TIME!

Tommy

Jake creates more trueroyals who all see him as their sire. Time passes. Jake realised that the majority of the rulers of an insect faction all venerate him as their sire 😂

Tommy

Yeah he’s got ten submissions so I’m thinking: Alchemy Skill evolution Item & record & origin energy shenanigans

kyle

I'm looking forward to this one the most!

Yaldabaoth

Woooohoooo!! Less gooooo! All of dis! Absolute, perfectection, m8 🥰 Keep doing what ye be doing!

Cam

Very directly targeted at Jake! 😂

DeamoniumDraco

Technically it isn't unique as he obviously isn't the first with them, but the skills are so broad he could potentially upgrade them with some random obscure part that no one has done before at that rarity

Michael Fannon

He will be on the leaderboard, but I doubt he will be in second. He didn't get any bonus from the mortal coliseum after all.

Aerlevsedi

Time to manipulate the origins or something non-living to create another myth. I'm just waiting for him to get pissed off when he accidentally makes his curse-based poison sentient, and then it is disqualified for having gained a soul.

Michael Fannon

No. They have true souls. But Jake always ends up making a catalyst that is wholly unique before using said catalyst to make his creations. I'm betting that catalyst, if Jake does make one, will be the type of creation that gwts him a 25% bonus here.

Michael Fannon

Potions, poisons, curses, semi-soul bound items transmuted, soul-flame, maybe those catalysts Jake makes before using them for his creations/kids if he has enough Jake juice. Edit: also skill upgrades. He does have 1 or 2 charges for the visions skill so maybe a new mythical skill or 2 as well.

TwoMoreYears

The range of items he’s going to make is going to be hilarious. Plagues, cursed items, alchemical concoctions, tasty bird treats of mythic status.

StuBee3

Great chapter! Looking forward to this new dungeon. 😎

Austin Richins

I wonder how recent his creations need to be, considering he already has a handful of skills and eternal hunger 🤔

Michael Fannon

Yeah, pretty sure whoever this architect is, they are a god. Question is are they another image of a god saved, or more like Minaga in that they are really there and helping with Nevermore.

kingofshibainu

I was looking forward to this one and it's what I hoped! I love seeing Jake experiment and create new things. It's one reason this series is so fun because it involves crafting. Also, he's one level away from his next skill in profession, so if he can level here (and I don't see why he wouldn't) we'll get a new skill selection soon!

Michael Fannon

Why do I have a feeling that Jake, being Jake, just for fun decides to offer the gods watching a chance to bid on what he should use his Jake juice on? And Villy making bets on what will happen?

Chloe

I hope he makes 12 somethings and only chooses the top 10

Chloe

Minaga borders on creepy. Bro maybe, but needs some etiquette lessons.

Chloe

I think he uses origin energy and makes a cool robot, no soul, and wins the forbearance of the Automata folks. Maybe as was suggested above, he makes a robot that helps the Titan.

Numbzy

It's one of the automatic skills you get when evolving. Jake is capable of creating class/profession tomes since evolving to C Grade.

jazz

Thought he used all his origin energy fighting valdemar

Michael Fannon

He used all he had saved up. That was 3 years ago, so Jake might have enough to try one or 2 things.

Numbzy

So A: I am glad that Patreon fixed the comment order. That being said, I've been reading them backwards all day now. B: Jake's going to have a ball in the dungeon. Everyone is speculating on what he'll make, but it is kinda obvious imo. He wants as many points and the highest multiplier possible. So we have to look at "impossible" choices instead of rare or difficult creations. Origin manipulation is going to be it. Every other crafting option he has available to him should only result in a 20% multiplier while origin manipulation will give the 25%. Rare Grimoires aren't new or unique even if they are difficult. Curse things are the same as Grimoires, difficult but not unique. In terms of more traditional crafting, Jake's definitely talented, but really he isn't genius level. His potions are good, not impossible. Same with poisons. Non-Origin based, non-curse transmutation is good but not impossible. So far, Jake's alchemy has been the method that Jake uses for his origin manipulation the best, but his baseline alchemy is definitely not at the same level as the rest of his skills or accomplishments.

Anonymous

Dopy smiles fades: "Wait I can't submit this!" Later on: "Father what is my purpose?" "..."

Justin van mele

Maybe he can make something for Irin with the demon Lord's core, like a "Core of True Desire " or something like that.

Abbots Foley

Arnold vs Jake, who can have more diversity?

Andrew K

What he did with Sandy would seems to fall within bounds (since he improved a clearly already aware existing being, so would be in the same general category as the option to submit a student to be evaluated on what they were taught). However, anything like what he did for Sylphie and Vesperia would depend on if the egg (or larva, etc.) had a truesoul before he started.

Michael Fannon

That is a very good question. Arnold will make things with void, while Jake will make things with orgin/Jake juice. I think both will get 25%. But I have no idea which will have more diversity.

Michael Fannon

Also grimoires, soul-flame, skill upgrades, and maybe an orgin catalyst artifact. Lots of goodies Jake can make.

Andrew K

I'll be disappointed if we don't get a super-heretical book (or other written material) submission from Jake as one of his 10. Example possibilities: - "Why the test of character challenge dungeon sucks and the Wyrmgod should be ashamed of it." - "How to annoy Minaga: A practical guide." - A tabloid featuring a bunch of lies about a bunch of scandalous alleged divine relationships, heavy on the primordials.

Anonymous

It does seem like he is nailing every other challenge dungeon though. Even getting between 60-80% is crazy good. Also his party managed the highest Minaga score. I agree it probably won’t happen, but it would be a cool subversion. Also fuck up Yip of Yores plans if two earthlings beat his chosen.

Luciaron

Maybe some primordial fan fiction would be unique

Klown Keidra

You know, this made me think. The Prima event that is scheduled to happen. Vesperia can essentially lead any Wasp/Bee in the 93rd universe. They would certainly make a great wall to keep the Prima vs Jake fight a solo affair, and none of the Wasp/Bee, or potentially any Ectomorph, from helping the Prima as the Empire would just tell them to stand down.

Klown Keidra

Rare Grimoires aren't, but Unique ones about being a Heretic Chosen would probably be an easy Unique point in his favor. I don't think there has been another Heretic Chosen to exist, so it would be fairly unique, if largely unreplicatable. That being said, I do think his Origin Manipulation will be the 10th and final item that puts him over the edge, and probably something to do with the Architect themselves. Like creating a Builder Origin core or something. Something that improves even the Architect.

TwoMoreYears

I forgot about the skill allowing for grimoires. That could be interesting for sure.

Mownmbasa

Easy mode! Just submit the Mythic weapon and leave! Fastest challenge dungeon completion titled "Gone in 60 seconds" :)))) He can make a better one for sure in C Grade. P.S. Or a fungicide that eradicates all fungus in the multiverse and gets a couple of heretical levels from turning the whole Malefic order in uproar hahaha!

Arkenian

Is an automata a living being? It has a truesoul, so probably I guess?

John Grizzly

I think Arnold would have more diversity as he isn't necessarily limited by scope, being a scientist his kinda can cover all physical professions. While Jake is ultimately an alchemist. But with Arnold's personally and character, I don't think he would be as creative as Jake.

Anonymous

Jake is going to leave Nevermore and a whole bunch of high level C grades and a god or two are going to turn up in Haven. The millions of new residents are going to think they are being invaded and Jake is going to be annoyed because his house is wayy too small for all his guests.

DirePants

This is going to be a fun challenge. super excited to see how he struggles and/or cheeses this one

GraveZ

Maybe we will get the Origin Soulflame?

kingofshibainu

Is the goal to create 10 creations to impress the architect, or is the goal to create one which impresses with 10 attempts?

JJB4345_80_815

He'll probably make 100-1,000 different things to practice getting his submissions to be as awe inspiring as possible. He's probably going to make... 1) curse weapon 2) poison 3) skill upgrade either to legendary or mythical 4) transmutation 5) take full use of his mana control 6) use his soul ritualism skill for something besides creating a life with a Truesoul 7) a new type of arrow 8) grimoire 9) use his bloodline for something 10) I dunno. Actually I don't really know about anything but those are my humble guesses.

JJB4345_80_815

Sandy was hunting for treats/food/stuff to consume even before meeting up with Jake. Granted, his records could influence things to be more instinctual. All three, in some way, are guided by their instincts. I think Vespera's instincts revolve around home/family/community, but we'll find out more in later chapters probably.

JJB4345_80_815

Good point about Arnold, although he might get dinged if everything is labeled as "Techy." It's kinda why I don't think Jake will submit both a potion (mana/health/stamina) and a poison due to both of those being standard things Alchemists produce.

JJB4345_80_815

Another thing that I wonder about: Was Ell'hakan able to breeze through this one by using his bloodline to make the Architect believe all his crap was genius level creations??? That would suck. Here's to hoping that the Architect isn't deceived. 🤞

JJB4345_80_815

Don't forget about the Sword Saint and Sylphie too. The Sword Saint has a 100 + years of experience, is a swordsman, a talented painter, can use magic and alter time, was a successful businessman and clan leader. He should be able to rock this challenge dungeon easily and we know that he got 10% from the Coliseum of Mortals. Sylphie, which will probably suck at this challenge dungeon, probably did all right in all of the others so far. Earth is filled to the brim with monsters.

Anonymous

I think almost definitely, it said entire living beings with true souls and it was specified that soul flames failed to become living beings and their truesoul isn't complete.

JJB4345_80_815

Kinda surprised that he wasn't wisked back into the God TV room after he finished Minaga's Labyrinth OR that we didn't hear from the peanut gallery on his domination. Now, will the other Primordials still stick around now that Valdemar met Jake, or has he hooked them all in to find out what other crazy things he does? Will they even be shown what he does in this challenge dungeon since Minaga doesn't have control? Or will the Wrymgod/Villy allow the rest of the gods to see everything, even though they prevented that very thing in the challenge dungeon following the Coliseum of Mortals?

JJB4345_80_815

Remember, diversity counts and using his origin manipulation takes a lot out of him. I don't think that he can use it the full 10 times even if he wanted to in this dungeon. He's going to have to maximize EVERYTHING he can do to impress this Architect.

Seiryus

I really really doubt the architect is another Primordial, though. Nevermore is the Wyrmgod's domain, after all.

JJB4345_80_815

- "Fun with Fungicide! How we can make the Multiverse a better place without Mushrooms" by Jake Thayne - "Bows over Crossbows. A guide to not sucking at life" - "Drinking Beers with a Danger Noodle!" Oh, and that "How to annoy Minaga: A practical guide" is priceless !!!

Andrew K

He's safe from gods until the 93rd universe opens up to general traffic from other universes. . .by which time there will probably either be so many gods waiting that serious conflicts will break out among them, or most of them will be too terrified of his influence to even try.

Andrew K

Based on the wording of a couple parts, pretty sure the goal is to make 10 impressive creations (at least if you're a serious competitor going for a good grand achievement).

Jul Silver

So far all his origin manipulation s have true souls unless you consider Eternal Hunger.

Kaibutsu

I feel like Jake will smash another +25% and add Rigoria to Primordials wanting him as their chosen. XD Time to combine Jake juice with cursed energy. This truesoul rule is kind of nerf for Jake xD

Daniel Lampl

Its a shame that living beings cant be submitted. I was half expecting him to make a Jake-juiced demon king.

Numbzy

For every manipulation he made, there was a catalyst made beforehand that could be submitted.

austin kutz

He needs ludicrous materials to make that happen though, and he won't know them until he sees them