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The further into the Challenge Dungeon Jake got, the more twists and turns Minaga began to throw at him. Quite literally, at times, as some of the sections outright twisted and turned, the labyrinth itself subtly changing as he moved through it. Walls would pop up, and others would disappear, shuffling themselves about in a set pattern that Jake could quickly figure out when he could take snapshots of everything with his Pulse.

Then there were the sections Jake dubbed the Labyrinth Archipelago, a name that Minaga liked so much he considered making it official for the next iteration of his labyrinth in the next era. Jake gracefully handed him the trademark to the name and didn’t even need to be credited if the Unique Lifeform did decide to use it down the line. Not that he would have said no to royalties…

Anyway, the reason Jake called it the Labyrinth Archipelago was because it wasn’t just one maze but several that were spread out throughout an area, all connected with teleporters. Each maze was a lot smaller than the others, but when you had to do several, sometimes even having to backtrack, one definitely got pressured on time.

Not to mention that many of these islands were fake, only having one teleporter on them, with the entire place just being a waste of time. Of course, you had no way to confirm this before fully exploring it or solving some more odd magical riddles and stuff.

Jake could definitely see why these were supposed to be a lot harder. Of course, for him, it was just an extra Pulse of Perception or two to check out everything. Sadly, he couldn’t see all the islands at once as they seemed to exist in separate spaces or were at least very far apart if they were floating in the same void. This meant Jake had to actually take a few wrong turns before finding the right path. Sometimes, anyway. More often than not, he intuitively just went the right way on his first attempt, which definitely got a few comments out of Minaga.

Oh, and then there were the labyrinths Minaga began to throw in around section forty, where illusionary arrays were spread throughout, creating illusions such as fake doors, fake barriers with gatekeeper creatures, and even fake traps that looked impossible to beat. Jake ignored all of these.

Aside from different layouts, the non-illusion enemies and traps also changed significantly. The traps had become deadly even to Jake – assuming he ever let one hit him – and were no longer made just to slow people down. Lasers that could cut Jake’s limbs off like butter began appearing around section sixty, and in section sixty-five, he encountered the good old lowering ceiling trap. Except it was entire sections of the maze that would begin to lower at once to crush him, forcing you to quickly find a way out as a mini-maze was created. What’s more, with the ceiling lowered, one of the paths you could potentially take got blocked off, forcing you to take detours around the newly blocked-off area.

There were many interesting traps for sure, but what was more were the creatures. At section one, Jake saw only foes around level 210, while at section seventy, they were between 280 and 290. Based on some quick math, the levels of foes scaled up by one every time he progressed a section, making the difficulty rapidly ascend.

When Jake reached section seventy-five, he did something he hadn’t done before. He took a breather in the “checkpoint hallway,” as he had dubbed it. For a good reason, too, as the last section had been quite arduous and annoying to get through after he decided to fight a level 293 turtle gatekeeper creature that had put up a good fight simply due to how durable it was. This section had definitely taken him far longer than he would have liked.

Labyrinth Section 74 clear time: 16:54:39

“Damn, nearly seventeen hours for one section,” Jake sighed as he took a breather in the hallway between two Labyrinth Sections. “I really need to step up my pace if I want to do just a thousand, much less several million sections.”

While it was true the Challenge Dungeon had given him 20 days to complete that section, he still felt like it was a little slow on his part to take the better parts of a day.

“… you’re killing me over here. Killing me, I tell you!”

“What’s one clone more or less to someone as esteemed as you?” Jake smiled as he closed his eyes to rest and fully restore his resource pools before it was time to move on.

These checkpoint corridors, or whatever he decided to eventually dub them, were pretty rare in the beginning, but by now, they pretty much appeared after every section. They were nothing more than hallways between two doors, but they did represent a place where no timer was constantly going down, putting pressure on you.

“Even if you think my clones have little value, are you truly willing to have the death of one on your conscience?” Minaga asked. “To live with the fact that you have killed me for the rest of your life… that you have killed such an inspiring figure?”

Jake put on a serious face as he spoke in a calm tone. “I have resolved myself to the fact that my Path to godhood will be one littered with corpses. I can… no, I must be able to face myself, even if such a thing happens. Your sacrifice would definitely be remembered eternally.”

“You know what? Now I nearly want to die just to keep this hanging over your head.”

“That doesn’t sound like something an esteemed figure would do,” Jake said with a smirk. “And why would I bother remembering someone like that?”

“Rude.”

“I never said anything rude. I just spoke my truth and was brutally honest.”

“People who say they are just speaking the truth or being brutally honest are often just saying that as an excuse to be horrible assholes to others without having to face the repercussions of their own actions,” Minaga chimed in.

“Wow, that’s a brutally honest take for sure,” Jake nodded along. “And are we back to you being a massive bully again?”

“I always face the consequences. Well, the version of me that did something does. It wouldn’t be fair to get all of me involved just because one of me fucks up.”

“A great way to truly avoid responsibility indeed,” Jake shrugged as he kept relaxing a bit. “Now, back to this labyrinth in question… you said it would be getting hard, but when exactly does that happen? Still waiting over here.”

“Some would argue it has already gotten hard. The traps can now prove lethal even to you, the teleporters aren’t as easily exploited, more features to slow you down has appeared, and the gatekeeper creatures can put up a decent fight… so isn’t it at least harder now than in the beginning?” Minaga tried to argue very flimsily.

“Sure, it has gotten more difficult, but something going from easy to slightly less easy still makes it easy. I think the main thing right now is the length of the timers being more than ten times above how long it actually takes. Removes a lot of the pressure of the situation and makes it all feel a bit too relaxed and casual,” Jake argued.

“You do remember this is a maze, right? A labyrinth? You are just running straight for the end every time, already knowing the way. If I had to balance the timer around everyone already knowing the way, I would have put a damn map at the start of every section and not a magical problem to solve, now wouldn’t I? Or maybe I should just make my next labyrinth a straight path for people to sprint down. Would that be better, huh?” Minaga said, sure winding himself up.

“I never said you had to change anything, just that from my very overpowered point of view, it has yet to be hard,” Jake muttered.

“Fair, I guess. But there are more things to come, so maybe you will face something that is actually difficult at some point? Heck if I know, though. Your overpowered Bloodline probably has some other secret aspect to overcome anything I throw at you…”

“You could always throw in a water level. That would sure slow me down,” Jake said semi-jokingly.

“I find the very notion you believe I could ever do that insulting. I have integrity! Integrity, I tell you!” Minaga said, getting himself even more worked up.

He remembered Minaga had already shown disdain for water levels prior and definitely believed he wouldn’t do that in his labyrinth. Also, even if there was a water level, Jake would still be beating it, though it would be a lot more difficult and time-consuming.

“Then I guess all there is to do is watch me continue to demolish your labyrinth. Hey, maybe you can use the data for an improved version in the next era? Find countermeasures to someone like me?” Jake said, trying to be a little encouraging.

“I think that if I implement countermeasures to actually hinder you, an unfortunate side effect would be to make it utterly unbeatable for nearly everyone else…” Minaga said with a sigh. “Procedurally generating it won’t work as that messes up many other legitimate scouting methods, and even if I did that, who is to say you won’t just know where to go anyway due to some stupid gut feeling or anything? Yeah, trying to make countermeasures is a waste of time. I would rather just hope there aren’t more people like you out there…”

Jake just smiled and shook his head as their conversation slowly died down. He knew Minaga had a hard time implementing any features to hinder Jake, and in all honestly, he saw himself as only having three true limiters in Minaga’s Endless Labyrinth - three things that could lead to him not completing a section in time.

The first one was his movement speed. Jake was fast, but he could be faster, especially with the mist slowing him down. That is why he worked on trying to speed up slightly by covering his body in a faint layer of destructive arcane affinity that seemed to help a little bit. Outside of that, it was just to keep good form and keep sprinting while conserving stamina and drinking potions whenever necessary.

Secondly was his fighting power. Jake had noticed that, at least so far, Minaga would never force him into a fight, but there were cases where not fighting a gatekeeper would require him to take a long detour. So when he began to meet foes he simply couldn’t beat, it would all be down to if he was fast enough to do the detour in time. Jake was still not at this stage, but he knew it would come at some point.

The third and last limiter Jake saw was Minaga introducing a new element he had no way of cheesing. The Labyrinth Archipelago was already pretty good at delaying him. Still, it didn’t impact him more than anyone else, but if Minaga added elements Jake couldn’t do anything about, he could also see himself being fucked. He wasn’t sure what Minaga could add, but it was definitely possible.

However… if number three didn’t come into play, Jake felt extremely confident he wouldn’t just be going for a high score but perhaps the highest score anyone on the Leaderboards could get. He did believe there were level 349s out there who didn’t compete on the Leaderboards and could do better, but those didn’t matter. As long as he could beat all his peers, Jake would be more than happy.

His confidence was far from unfounded. One would have to be a complete cheat with a Transcendence or a Bloodline to even stand a chance against him, and even if they had one, Jake believed his Bloodline was better. Jake was also a speed-focused built, having even put all the Free Points gained from the levels to his profession after he visited the gods into Agility to move just a little faster through the labyrinth.

He had everything going for him in this Challenge Dungeon, almost as if he was born to utterly dominate it. He truly had no excuse if he ended up with a poor performance. If he couldn’t get the top score, then what the hell kind of living cheat did you have to be in order to do so?

Alright, there was one more potential kind of person who could overtake him. While talking with Casper when they met up in Minaga City, the Risen talked about how he had certain advantages as a Dungeon Architect. That he could also “cheat” in the dungeon and find the way easily.

Casper himself wasn’t a threat when it came to being number one, as the Risen, quite frankly, didn’t have the speed required to be at the top. Even if he knew the way, Jake could see him get stuck on levels with limited time quite easily, a sentiment he shared with many others with dungeon-making focused Paths. Such Paths tended to focus on mental stats over the physical ones, after all. Plus, while someone like Casper could cheat as a Dungeon Architect, Jake’s level of cheating was still far superior.

So… to summarize, Jake was going for the top spot. He wanted the best Grand Achievement he could get… and he couldn’t lie; Minaga’s constant complaints only served as further motivation.

After his rest, Jake stood back up and stretched as he looked at the next gate. Let’s see if I can do this faster than the last one.

--

“How long has it been since he entered?” Vilastromoz asked with a big smile. He naturally already knew, but he wanted to ask just to make Minaga vocalize it.

“Twenty-five days or so,” Minaga said, not elaborating further.

“And, color me curious, how long does it usually take for the average person?” the Viper asked.

“… more than that…” the Unique Lifeform said in a small voice.

“How much more, I wonder? A week more? Oh, maybe an entire month! Pray tell, pray tell!” Vilastromoz said, completely unable to hold himself back from teasing the Unique Lifeform.

Minaga just stared at him for a bit before crossing his arms. “Not saying. Figure it out yourself. And Wyrmgod, you better not say a word either.”

“How petty,” the Viper shook his head as he turned to his secret weapon. “How about you two? Aren’t you curious?”

He naturally spoke to Nature’s Attendant, but more importantly, Artemis. The old druid just smiled, while Artemis didn’t even try to hide her interest as she nodded enthusiastically.

As expected, Minaga couldn’t resist as he sighed. “First of all, the Viper’s question is flawed. The usual person never even gets this far. And for those who do, the average time for doing so is just around thirteen months, give or take.”

“So, Jake is just fifteen times or so faster than the average person?” the Viper asked with a smile. “Not too bad, I guess.”

“Faster than the people who make it this far,” Minaga corrected him. “Considering it’s only the above-average Nevermore Attendees that get above section sixty, with many entirely flunking out within just a few, I guess some would argue his performance is even better than expected.”

“If… if I may, how does he compare to the other top contenders? How close is he to being the fastest to get to section seventy-five?” Artemis asked, a bit nervously.

Minaga just threw her a deadpan look. “How close? Come on, are you also teasing me now?”

Artemis looked genuinely confused as the Wyrmgod spoke up.

“He is the top contender.”

“Oh,” Artemis muttered with a nod.

“Man, he sure is a cheat. That Bloodline of his is totally broken,” Minaga sighed loudly. “Hey, Artemis, can you do me a favor?”

“Hm?” she responded. “If it’s within my capabilities, I will do my best.”

“Great,” Minaga said as he put on a massive teasing smile. “If you two ever have kids that inherit his Bloodline, can you give me details on it or at least some tips for countermeasures?”

“I… what?” Artemis exclaimed as the tips of her ears turned red before she gathered herself. “Please stop joking around like that; I find it highly inappropriate. Also, you know as well as I that sharing the secrets of others, including the details of their Bloodlines, is not something one should do.”

“Right, right, how rude of me.” Minaga put up his hands defensively as no one continued the subject. Jake standing up in the recording to continue the labyrinth served as a nice distraction.

Vilastromoz just shook his head at the interaction between the two gods as he smiled to himself… unable to avoid noticing how she hadn’t denied or shot down the notion of potentially carrying forward Jake's Bloodline.

Comments

Anonymous

3 minutes and I'm STILL late lol

Anonymous

Today is my birthday.

Arrogant Savant

Minaga is being the Artemis + Jake shipper we all stan

Decibel790

Man, Artemis just keeps getting more endearing. Thanks for the chapter!

Anonymous

Pulling an all nighter studying for an exam and this just gave me the short break I needed. Zograth always comes through.

Mantiqore

Now Artemis really needs to visit the Jake self help group

Baconwargod

THE SHIP IS COMING ALONG SO NICELY!

Valhazstromoz

Lmfaooooo arty is so damn cute a powerful goddess all shy it's adorable

Hayden Leech

Minaga is just the best.

Jana

So, let’s just say there are a hundred levels, do you think Jake will ask minaga if the tutorial is now over and he can start the real thing after clearing level 100?

Lawrence Dillon

Hehe arti is ready to go! 😂 jake is about to go ridiculously far in the dungeon and set an unbeatable record

Rhysal

It would be interesting to see what capabilities a child from Artemis and Jake would be born with.

kry

I hope there is a higher achievement than the grand achievement 👀 but also I don’t want him to lose the title from defeating Vlady even if he arguably ends up doing better in Minaga’s nightmare. Also someone on the last comment section suggested that Jake could make it to the (edit) B-grade version of Minaga’s labyrinth… which would be very cool if that’s possible. Seems more probable now that we know that the monster’s levels are increasing by 1 every section, and he’s made it so high in only 25 days.

Den

Minaga and Villy are the best wingmen one could ask for

JJB4345_80_815

Happy for the Chappy! Minaga is such a great character! I'm starting to think that Irreverence is a godly trait...

Anonymous

Don't you mean the B-grade version? He is in the C-grade version if I am not mistaken.

Michael Fannon

Poor Artemis, she has it bad. And poor Meira. Though I really want to hear some mortal comments about it. Jake's support group hearing about from duskleaf or Minaga bragging about it to Casper or the sword saint.

Michael Fannon

I'm very much looking forward to the day Jake decides to start having kids. I'm guessing high B or sometime in the A grade.

Michael McMahon

All of this story is just one long prequel to the appearance of the real Primal Hunter, Artemike. Tftc!

Atoms88

What could stop Jake? Reality Static. Like, giant sandstorm but the sand particles are strobbing LEDs. Overloading his sphere is doable, but not normal.

Detrox

Nah, I bet he will actually find the end of the endless labyrinth, letting him poke fun to Minaga for his not-so-endless Lab

Tyler S.

I could see him taking so long in Minagas dungeon that the rest of his party gets finished with their trials and leave him behind to catch up therefor meeting up with El'haky to have another big send off right before the last stretch of Nevermore... or at least it would make for an interesting development to finish off this arc

Zach Neumann

All the times Villy told Jake to wait until A grade to have kids, only for Jake to lock in a goddess in a dungeon. Talk about picking up girls in a dungeon 🤣

Areshan

Ultimate title achieved: God bully

Michael Fannon

Oh, I wonder if he will get profession levels for bullying a peak existence like Minaga?

mitchell kaiser

Hopefully Jake and Artemis can get some good get to know you time after nevermore. Also I’m still wondering if that symbol thing the image (Artemis) showed him will have any significance still.

Anonymous

Good chapter, minaga always brings a lot, great character. Also enjoying more artemis, and bloodline bullshit

Justus Saucedo

I believe minaga said there was something like a billion lvls last chapter. I'm pretty sure when it said "endless labyrinth" it meant it literally haha

Michael Fannon

I'm still cheering for Meira. Though I hope Jake ends up in an elf sandwich someday too. He needs to learn to relax and chill occasionally.

Anonymous

The system is going to throw Jake a title soon "Destroyer of the infinite God. The Primal Hunter has caused the Unique Lifeform Minaga so much grief with his ability to complete his complex labyrinths. +100 to perception may your existence enrage Minaga for enternity"

Michael Fannon

Well, while she is close to a godsqueen, she is currently hanging out with some of the most powerful beings in existence.

Michael Fannon

Eventually, Minaga will let Jake know it's been 2 years just to get him to leave.

austin kutz

I don't think he'll have any kids until he becomes a God, tbh. Or if he gets a really kickass clone skill in the S grade

Aurelius

Turns out it is not wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon

Frederik

yes he is in the c grade one I imagine it is just a typo and I dont think jake could do the b grade Version as powerfull a cheat he is the sheer scale of an b grade laberint would probably make it impossible to traverse in time dou to the limiting factory movement speed

Darnell Maxwell

Glad to see Artemis is getting more comfortable around the Primordials. I'm curious if we're finally going to get a POV from the Holy Mother.

Chase

I’m seeing the potential for the bloodline to get passed on rising

Anonymous

It’d be funny if the 25% grand achievement is based on setting a new high score and Jake ends up making it impossible for anyone else from here on out.

Ben Heystek

id be curious to see a side story or flashback of Artemis past and any of her big skills

Michael mann

The gods watch party has really added a lovely element to the Nevermore arc. It’s been great fun. I cannot wait to see how the party reacts when they all get back together. I especially want to know if Sword Saint got further with a wooden sword than Jake did by kicking

Anonymous

No, he said that the average person made it to level 69,420 or something along those lines, pretty obviously facetiously. There wasn't any real mention of how many there actually where.

Ben Heystek

Also does Artemis have a secret bloodline?

Inv7ctus

Can't wait to see arty in her element again. And not surrounded by the most terrifying gods in existence. That being said it is very cute.

Michael McMahon

I was gonna got with Jartemis at first but it sounds too close to Shartemis for me. Plus Mike is short for my own name so was an easy jump to that :D

Anonymous

Jake just being Jake

Tommy

Can’t wait to see Meira when Artemis comes to visit Jake

Sean

I love how Jake is about to be best friends with half of the primordials and his second best buddy is gonna demand a fight every single time before they can have a beer. Kinda like that guy that always wants to arm wrestle or something like that.

Ilinorin

Jake may not know. I doubt he wouldn't know, but it is possible as he didn't know that eversmile had one. Even if she doesn't have one yet, she could always get one. Villy said he didn't get his till he was a god after all.

Kenneth Dennis

I could see arti ending up at the Jake's friends help group. But to be honest Minaga will definitely show up first because of the torment our boy is putting him through lol.

Darthnarciss

Well she did get a massive exposure to Jake's aura earlier, and it's been stated that it innoculates people to being in the presence of gods. It stands to reason it would work on gods as well.

Numbzy

No, back during the Training of Meria's resistance, Duskleaf stated that it doesn't work on people of higher grades.

Darnell Maxwell

No he said it doesn't work on Active suppression. Similar to how Jake infuses his aura with mana to supress and attack his enemies in battle. If a god actively uses their aura they could kill someone like Jake easily. It was even brought up when Jake clashed with Valdemar. Valdemar used the increase in quality his aura gets when he uses his transcendence. But he didn't actively infuse it with his power as a god because then he would have just killed Jake instantly.

John Balman

I'm starting to hope Artemis really ends up being one of his wives

Drew

The next Era is going to have a litter of little primal monster archers running around, huh.

Tucker Glick

Woah Valdemar is definitely #3 on that list if Minga isn’t #2 after this I’ll be sad

Chloe

Congrats on completing another lap around the closest star from an arbitrary starting point. HBD

Michael

I'm curious to hear the blight father and holy mother's input on Jake's performance in the next chapter. I'm sure even they are likely having inner monologs about the possibility of curating his bloodline with some of their talents

Hunter Thornton

Welp it seems Minaga is gonna have to let him get away with it. Also Artemis is gonna have to lower her expectations and become wife number 2, maybe number 3 depending on Cameron, cause when Mera finally gets to godhood she is going to get her Jake Juice.

Arkenian

I just have to say that Minaga is my favorite part of Nevermore, with the Artemis thread a fun addition. Happy to see them both in this chappie!

Anonymous

at 25 days and 75 sections he's over half way to b grade, they will show up in 60 sections and he will fully in b grade in 70, he has 2 years I'm guessing he will have at least 1.5 years in the B grade section, he might need to actually solves some puzzles at that point to avoid fights(wandering beasts that can track) and make shortcuts. he'll probably burn through his lives before time is a factor.

Ted Burgess

Love the snark. You are the King of Snark 🤜

Anonymous

The interactions with Minaga are great. I could see him becoming a long term friend/ally of Jake's down the road.

Anonymous

I really like artemis but I cant decide between her and the sucubus. I really liked her straight forvard "I know what i want attitude".

Isley

good chappie

One Winged Angel

Hot take here: I really really hope this doesnt become a harem situation, because that just ruins the feel of Jake in my opinion. Meiras wildly too meek and shy, and the fact that she was previously a slave, and Jake doesnt have a savior complex so him going that direction just feels....wrong. Artemis is just too....done, for my tastes. Like her story seems to have already been written and closed, shes a god, shes on her way to becoming a godqueen as far as i see. Dont get me wrong i could be proven utterly wrong since we just met her and she could absolutely make jake better, but its really odd for her to become a permanent love interest this early on Jakes road in my opinion. Carmen was really the one i was hoping for honestly, she just ticked all the boxes. Strong, prolly making godhood based on her runemaiden trials. Absolutely calls Jake out on his dumbassery, and based on how the story seems to be going, she could be playing a very important role in the Malefic Viper vs. Valhal narrative. Eh, maybe ill be proven wrong.

Mownmbasa

Personally i am waiting or rather hoping for a threesome between Irin, her S Grade Mistress and Jake! One can only dream :P

Thenais

Great chappy !!! And ding 100th comments

Thenais

I like both carmen and artemis … + the succubus … hard to chose

JonO

Artemis and Jake include the appropriate letters to make sim-jake. Maybe the first make can be called that in honor of his long lost clone that no one else really knew about. Also i think artemake is a contender lol

JonO

I don't think he did. When he met and fought the monk they started that he went all in and cut the guy before he could be bled first. I'm pretty sure it mentioned him using a real blade then

JonO

I also think that by that time Jane had already used his fist at least once. So yeah i think miyamoto best Jake at least there.

Anonymous

Honestly I'm fine with a harem happening if it's background noise, and not the main focus like a lot of other novels.

JonO

I agree with this. Obviously most gods seem to have more than one mate or whatever you'll call them. I actually hope that Jake ends up with one of each major faction or pantheon. Artemis is life Meira from his fellow order Carmen from valhal Maybe reika but i doubt it I also doubt miranda Though i could see Scarlett having a spot to signify no hate towards the monsters. Etc....

Luke Scheffe

I’d guess that if he completes the c grade levels, he would be allowed to try and compete in the B grade levels if he asked to.

Daniel Hamilton

I think a lot of them are gonna become Jake’s version of the ladies of the verdant Lagoon. More like a group of people who support him that everyone else has to get through

Daniel Hamilton

I like the fact that he is the only one who is able to mess with Minaga well all the other gods try whatever they can not to

Stephen Heng

God commentary is one of the best things in Nevermore.

Josh Cothran

When you live for millennia why settle for 1 wife

Nick Nicholson

I thought they said the average contender completed a few million levels. Did I read that wrong?

Anonymous

He said “Four million, four-hundred-twenty thousand and sixty-nine, so if you don’t at least do that many, you suck,”. Which is obviously a joke if above average folks are the only ones to make it past 60. I imagine that 100-150 is super top-contender progress, maybe with the once -in-an-era powerhouse getting further. Even if it is truly endless (loops back after 200 with 10x power increase or some shit), it is likely irrelevant for the C grade version of the Labyrinth/Nevermore. Remember Nevermore goes from D to S as far as we know, with a possible god version we haven't heard about.

Ral

I think unless some homsettleing instincts pop up Jake will never belong to any women and no women will belong to him.

Chailles

Eversmile might just be an odd one out. He just seems like the type.

Henscratch

How about distraction/temptation levels? Putting things that appeal to all types of people to tempt them into staying on a level too long? Treasures that you can’t take off its level so you choose between a unique opportunity that takes time benefit or passing? A vice level that adapts to an individual’s desires like that Harry Potter mirror but a whole level reshaped instead of just an image. A sleep level! It would strain willpower/mental resistance, maybe some “poison” influence and dreamlike illusion mixed…with no timer available! Or, a build weakness level that is a direct counter to your weakest stat .

Owen Kaz

Joking obviously. Jakes only 75 in and the enemies are already an issue. A few million is a bitter Minaga's sarcastic comment to Jake.

John Grizzly

unfortunately i think unless its chosen by yip of yore level emotional manipulation, none would work on jake . and poisons would actually be beneficial since jake is a poison alchemist. minagi really just met the worst counter lol

Anonymous

I honestly see this hella working, like if floor 99 was just an opportunity to fight villy when he was C grade, hard to believe Jake would ever pass that up

Anonymous

Also gotta take into lifetime and legitimacy of making it to godhood into account; could totally see multiple of these relationships happening at different times and falling apart for realistic reasons, i.e. doesn't have to go harem route and Jake doesn't seem to want that either

Benjamin Mages

Depends on what you mean by harem. If you mean official relationship, Jake is married to his job, or rather, being a hunter. He's more likely to just have a bunch of women he's close to emotionally (or just likes relatively well) and sleeps with sometimes, but is otherwise not really in a committed relationship with anyone. If you mean be completely monogamous about sex, then that's not going to happen.

kry

Whoops yea I do absolutely mean the b-grade hahah 🤪😅

kry

Yess!! I forgot that was hinted at before. I hope this happens!!!!

kry

I hope we get this scene at some point 😂

Michael Fannon

Jake is going to end up with a harem. He won't call them that and will rely on them for a lot more than just having fun, but the girls will pretty much completely commit to him and cal themselves his harem, much to Jake's dismay and Villy's delight.

Michael Fannon

Meira is going to go for it probably as soon as he gets back. I say probably only because I don't know if she will be in the nevermore herself when Jake gets back.

Michael Fannon

More primordials showing up would be nice. Better would be Minaga gossiping to other mortals from Earth about Jake while they try his challenge dungeon.

Michael Fannon

If the level of the monsters does continue to rise at a level per section, then realistically Jake will hit his limit around section 150. Beyond that is when they will start being around B-rank at that rate.

Michael Fannon

I want Jake to accept that he's going to have what is effectively a harem. Then I want Artemis and Meira to make an elf sandwich with Jake. Then for Caleb to find out about it and tell on him to his mom. Only for his mom to approve because she wants grandbabies.

Josh Cothran

Well yeah, I don’t know the word for millions of years but everything dies eventually, especially if they piss off the wrong person (like Villy) 😝

Taylor

Did this get edited? Loved the version this morning where Jake gave minaga shit for bullying random god factions.

Taylor

I don't understand why people get so upset about harem. Everyone wants that Jake juice for his bloodline and Vilas is all for it.

Jonathan

Jake was also a speed-focused built, build

Andrew K

You might be thinking of a snippet from yesterday along those lines.

Andrew K

Honestly, would be kind of odd for any god/goddess to be truly monogamous in the long term in a setting like this. On one hand, life expectancy alone means that it's statistically all but certain that any but the most ludicrously mutually committed couple is going to want some serious time apart eventually. And on the other hand, a lot of the long-term socio-economic pressures that exist in real life that encourage long-term monogamy would seem to be absent or much weaker at that point in the power scale (particularly when you consider things like how quickly any children will be born and grow up by comparison, little need to consider things like property inheritance, divine realms are basically free homes, etc.).

Michael Fannon

I think it is more of Artemis matches his path for archery and hunting while Meira will be a alchemy buddy

Rhysal

Picture this for a new series, POV of a young man or woman, father is Jake Thane the primal hunter, mother is Artemis. And he or she is the Chosen of Valdemar…

Mat

I thought challenge dungeons are only available at C grade part of Nevermore

Aerlevsedi

I've certainly thought about it. I kept wondering if Jake would be out hunting something a lot or ust chilling with villy and pals with some beers. Then I remembered with the whole horizon concept getting added it'll be both. I can totally see Jake just hanging out and then randomly shooting some arrows to kill some void beast in another universe...

Michael Fannon

Jake is going to end up with a harem. He won't call them that, and will insist that it they are just people he likes, trusts, and gets along with but with benefits. But the women involved are completely committed to Jake and call themselves his harem, much to Jake's dismay and Villy's delight.

tolson frantzen

I agree but definitely never thought Carmen was the one. They're both just too similar to me. Relationship to me definitely feels more like best friends than lovers.

Kenneth Welever

Some of those might work and they'd be fun additions but you gotta remember that minaga is freehanding all this shit. He can't get system skills so he has none of the helpful tools that other dungeon makers get. It's like trying to make red dead redemption with Ms paint and c++. It's technically possible with infinite time and effort but he had to work a thousand times as hard for the results

Olof Karlsson

Thanks to the chapter!