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The times, they are a changing. (Patreon)
Published:
2016-11-04 19:14:27
Edited:
2016-11-04 19:20:37
Imported:
2021-02
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Disclaimer: This is Galadreal, not Kandlin. I have hijacked his account for an hour while our Bean sleeps so I can collect commission art to post for everyone to enjoy. Also, I wanted to ask a couple of questions, based on some notes and replies. So...now for something completely different...a man with 2 noses.
No...wait...what? Sorry, I have not slept much, and I have watched way too much Monty Python. And I am generally rambley anyway. Sorry.
I guess I will start with the obvious, this Patreon is kicking his ass, which is not something I take lightly. All week he has been working on catch up, which means that he comes to bed at 2 a.m., gets up between 5 and 6 for a feeding, then crawls back in bed for maybe half an hour to try to get up at 7 to go to work, and it all starts over again. He works 9 hours a day for raving lunatic assholes (I know, I used to work there too), and then comes home, helps me with the Bean (who is his own kind of crazy), then spends most of the evening working on art, which he says he does not feel comfortable charging more for, because he is not faster/better at it. Of course, if you did not like his art, I doubt you would be here...but that is a whole separate kettle of fish.
He has received some suggestions that I happen to agree with, so I will now be throwing them out there to see who else agrees, who disagrees, who tells me I am nuts...etc etc etc.
Basic entry is $1. For that you get all the art. But what about more rewards, like WIP art for the $5 reward? what do you want for your $5, what do you think is fair? (FYI, I will be trying to get all the commissions, except the private ones uploaded as soon as he tells me which ones are private). But if I can get those sketches, would you be interested in seeing the extra steps to his work?
Commission tiers: Right now you are guaranteed a commission every month, but you know that he is behind on art (working on catching up), the cost is, of course, less than a normal commission price. Would you be willing to pay more for the guarantee of his work every month (once he gets caught up, maybe take a month down from Patreon, close everything down, and then start up fresh with new prices to better reflect the work?), IE: instead of the current 20 dollar fee, or his normal 25 dollar charge, would you be willing to pay 30 to be guaranteed a sketch commission every month? Same thing for Color, he normally charges 60 for a full color, shaded commission of 2 characters, would be be willing to pay 70-75 for a guaranteed spot, or 60 for a single character.
On that note, do you think private commissions should be extra, like $5, just because it is not something he can post for everyone to see?
He might need to limit sketch and commission tiers until/unless this picks up. Tackling a 8-5 job and doing this will eventually make the Patreon fall away completely, it is just not sustainable. And while things will get better once we get past this 4 month sleep regression with Bean...oh my GOD, I miss sleep...it is still a lot of work. He does not want anyone to feel like they are not getting their money's work, so he does not want to ask these questions. I however, have no problem with it, as I think they need to be asked. Also, I crave adult interaction as most of my conversations lately have been with an almost 5 month old and involved boobs, poop, or "oh my gods, please go to sleep".
I appreciate your responses and any suggestions or ideas you might have, as well as you taking the time to read this horribly long post.
Thank you,
Galadreal "Gail"
No...wait...what? Sorry, I have not slept much, and I have watched way too much Monty Python. And I am generally rambley anyway. Sorry.
I guess I will start with the obvious, this Patreon is kicking his ass, which is not something I take lightly. All week he has been working on catch up, which means that he comes to bed at 2 a.m., gets up between 5 and 6 for a feeding, then crawls back in bed for maybe half an hour to try to get up at 7 to go to work, and it all starts over again. He works 9 hours a day for raving lunatic assholes (I know, I used to work there too), and then comes home, helps me with the Bean (who is his own kind of crazy), then spends most of the evening working on art, which he says he does not feel comfortable charging more for, because he is not faster/better at it. Of course, if you did not like his art, I doubt you would be here...but that is a whole separate kettle of fish.
He has received some suggestions that I happen to agree with, so I will now be throwing them out there to see who else agrees, who disagrees, who tells me I am nuts...etc etc etc.
Basic entry is $1. For that you get all the art. But what about more rewards, like WIP art for the $5 reward? what do you want for your $5, what do you think is fair? (FYI, I will be trying to get all the commissions, except the private ones uploaded as soon as he tells me which ones are private). But if I can get those sketches, would you be interested in seeing the extra steps to his work?
Commission tiers: Right now you are guaranteed a commission every month, but you know that he is behind on art (working on catching up), the cost is, of course, less than a normal commission price. Would you be willing to pay more for the guarantee of his work every month (once he gets caught up, maybe take a month down from Patreon, close everything down, and then start up fresh with new prices to better reflect the work?), IE: instead of the current 20 dollar fee, or his normal 25 dollar charge, would you be willing to pay 30 to be guaranteed a sketch commission every month? Same thing for Color, he normally charges 60 for a full color, shaded commission of 2 characters, would be be willing to pay 70-75 for a guaranteed spot, or 60 for a single character.
On that note, do you think private commissions should be extra, like $5, just because it is not something he can post for everyone to see?
He might need to limit sketch and commission tiers until/unless this picks up. Tackling a 8-5 job and doing this will eventually make the Patreon fall away completely, it is just not sustainable. And while things will get better once we get past this 4 month sleep regression with Bean...oh my GOD, I miss sleep...it is still a lot of work. He does not want anyone to feel like they are not getting their money's work, so he does not want to ask these questions. I however, have no problem with it, as I think they need to be asked. Also, I crave adult interaction as most of my conversations lately have been with an almost 5 month old and involved boobs, poop, or "oh my gods, please go to sleep".
I appreciate your responses and any suggestions or ideas you might have, as well as you taking the time to read this horribly long post.
Thank you,
Galadreal "Gail"
P.S. Hopefully as I get caught up on sleep (HA HA HA HA!!!), I can help him get more organized and get things posted in a timely manner...i am a little OCD with organizing, much like Twilight Sparkle, but without the cool magic to help, or a Dragon personal assistant...though that would be really cool.