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Full Of It #256 - The Wembley Point Woman (Patreon)

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2023-07-22 23:00:03
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2023-07

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In October of 2004, a young woman walked into a 21-storey office block in London, took the lift to the top floor and sat in a workplace cafe with a cup of coffee. None of this would be out of the ordinary - until the moment she stood up, walked over to a window and jumped to her death. Almost two decades later, her identity and the reason she ended her life is still a mystery. So OBVIOUSLY, let's perch and read her story.

This pod contains discussion about suicide.

Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/27/the-wembley-point-mystery-who-was-the-woman-who-jumped-to-her-death

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Anonymous

I feel like she might have had some information or knew about office block especially the café, as you wouldn’t walk into an office block as you might be asked for some form of ID or pass to access. the building or café, especially knowing that the cafe had window that could open. That’s the only thing I can think of while being realistic and not resorting to theories like, she being in an cult and the painting is a clue to unearthing the cult.

Anonymous

Ahh Im so happy you laughed at the comment, made my night ! Stunning pod as always ! I will say that point you mentioned about people feeling suicidal taking things they like, like the art work with them really struck a chord. It really resonated with me as someone who has been in that space before, and was trying to work out which books i loved to pack with me, so her taking a piece of art she loved with her makes sense. Been in a much better place now for years but stories like this keep the fire inside me to campaign for better mental health services for everyone.

Anonymous

This is so sad, I do think you maybe on to something with regard to human trafficking in this case. Wild thought, any chance she also could have been a spy like in the other case? Like she knew what she was doing and wasn't being kept under duress?

Anonymous

First time commenter but year long listener here! Ive never commented here before, but I felt as if I had to join the discussion. This case has interested me ever since I found out about it a few months ago, the entire case is just bizzare and has literally kept me up at night. The painting, the bus ticket, and her behaviour is just so strange and the idea of dying and nobody knowing who you are and your loved ones not even know you're dead is just so scary to me. There are alot of cases (in the UK at least) of bodies being found and their identities not being discovered, however usually in these cases its due to disfigurements caused by the situation they were found in (fire, drowning at sea etc). Having looked at countless police and coroner photos of the case it just all feels so strange and there are just countless posibilities. I feel as though most cases have at least a few strong conclusions that seem plausable but this one has so many options, none of which have much evidence to them. Anyway, loved this pod and all your others, thanks for providing some premium entertainment during my depression era. Love ya x

Patrique

Hi doll, great pod as usual! I really like your sober approach to these types of cases. It does seem like there was an obvious lack of interest by the police to investigate the woman's identity and life further, definitely not lack of resources. I had a lecturer at uni who was involved in the investigation of the murder of a black boy aged between 4 and 8 whose torso was found on the Thames in 2001, his limbs expertly removed and his throat slit. The story was very shocking, and since very early the investigators thought he had been killed in some sort of religious ritual. I remember him saying that there was very little to go off on the investigations, but they managed to trace his ballpark origin to a region in Nigeria by analysing the mineral profile of his bones, and they were also somehow able to find out he came to the UK from Germany because of the brand of the shorts he was wearing when found. British authorities were sent over to South Africa to ask Nelson Mandela's support, who made a televised appeal to find out the boy's identity and parents, which was translated to many languages spoken in Africa and widely broadcast. This case, which happened before the Wembley Point woman, came to my mind as an example of the existence of a clear interest in finding out the identity and trajectory of this child, perhaps due to the unusual and sensational nature of the case. I don’t think anyone should have to die in such a manner in order to spark interest in the authorities to resolve the case; there should be dignity for everyone, in both life and death. The link for the wikipedia page of this case is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_(murder_victim)

Anonymous

Long time no comment, glad to be back in the fold! This one is just bleak, the more details you read/hear, the worse it seems to get. Clearly there is something awry with the work undertaken by the Police if they are unwilling the share the files, what other reason is there to withhold? It could be as simple as covering up some shite work, or up to something more sinister, but very concerning nonetheless. Very excited to hear your thoughts on the Barbie movie - I loved it, and found myself genuinely smiling, laughing and crying throughout. Rhea Perlman was the highlight for me, but just about every single character in it was brilliant. This message was paid for by Greta Gerwig Enterprises LLC. (not really)

Mark Hall

Its the first time seeing the actual painting she left behind and it is quite haunting. The main figure having a blank face is eerily apt in how we still don't know who she was. I guess one theory for why no-one came forward about her is maybe she came from a very religious community. My best friend is Nigerian and a former Muslim. He told me some devout followers consider suicide to be a cardinal sin and incredibly shameful. Maybe her family/community sadly did not want to be associated with her if they'd found out about it on the news.

Anonymous

This was a sobering pod. I didn’t know about that missing persons database and did a deep dive. It’s so heartbreaking how many people pass and no one ever “claims” them. I wish no one ever had to feel like they wouldn’t be missed. It breaks my heart.

Anonymous

I had never heard of this case and am astonished it isn't the subject of a documentary (unless my google search has failed me) as the subject is so deeply mysterious. Not only is there the lack of her identity but the "choice" of building, the painting, the bus pass and the poor policing (does the Met police ever do anything fucking right?). I'm so glad you called out some of the bias in the description of the woman and her "possible" lifestyle - those biases and racism are probably factors in the unsolved nature of the case. However, here's my wildly unsubstantiated theory completely founded on my own assumptions - the woman was an artist (she wore distinctive jewellery and had a copy of The Guardian) who was aiming to sell her work (hence carrying the painting). She purchased a bus pass with the aim of travelling to office buildings around the capital and selling her work to be hung in their receptions or corridors. After 3 days of no such luck, she travelled to the office block opposite Wembley Point. She was turned away and, already destressed (fag packet anxiety smoker) saw the open windows atop the WP building, crossed the road, ascended and then descended. Complete bullshit really. I do wonder if the painting had any markings not revealed by the police. This should be the subject of an Unsolved Mysteries as the kind of global exposure they can give is one of the few ways we can ascertain if the woman indeed had family in another country. Fab pod. Sorry for the essay.

Anonymous

She must have been familiar with the building to be able to have done all that. Maybe she was a cleaner or some other type of staff where you don't really interact with many people. But even then, somebody would recognise her, surely? Or she knew somebody who did work there who told her this information. I guess you could look up from outside to see if there's a window opened past a safety lock. Or maybe she just got lucky with it. I have to ask your opinions on the recent alien whistleblower who revealed *non-human* biologics and vehicles. Gen must be bricking em!

Anonymous

I agree that the researcher you mentioned sounds less than trustworthy given the conclusions to which she leapt regarding the unidentified woman. More evidence, as if it were needed, that a PhD is a proof of learning, not common sense (I include myself in that statement, sadly! Ha!) I’ve been enjoying the darker pods of recent while in Vilnius, Lithuania on a month-long language course. So many folk from across the globe knew exactly who you were when I explained that Novympia did the furniture video. Ha! On a (2022) Eurovision-related note, I swear it’s impossible to move here without somehow ending up at a Monika Liu concert. They love her! Hearing the crowds at the recent 700th Birthday of Vilnius City concert chant “bul bul bul bul bul” along with her latest track was wild! Her recent song, “Šampanas (bul bul bul)”, for reference: https://youtu.be/82osVyn6o2k Iki! PJ x

Anonymous

i’ve never heard of this before and it’s really sad. just a side note though, i’ve been really stressed this passed few weeks at work (work at luton airport as a ramp agent) and i’ve gone back through the ages and started listening to older episodes of the pod, YOUUUURRRR sunday treat, and it’s just been such a life saver. driving to and from work when i’m not listening to eurovision or serbian music i’m listening to your dulcet breath 🤍 there’s creators or influencers (lol you’ll hate that) that will never understand the pure happiness and what a saviour they are. just a huge thank you, it can’t be an easy occupation as it’s really 24/7 but it doesn’t go unnoticed or unappreciated 🤍 thank you girls, dita, nora, and the 2 puss squatters 🤍