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UPDATE: Hey all, firstly thanks to everyone who voted and commented. I figured I'd reply here rather than on every comment as it would take about half the day and I'm up against it time-wise with the scope of the animation I'm working on. 

tl;dr at the end.

I had a feeling this would be contentious but was surprised at the strength of the emotions from both sides, as well as impressed by the well-reasoned arguments coming forth.

From reading all the comments the one thing that I've decided is that if I add futa it would be as an optional extra rather than something fully integrated (e.g. I won't be making a monthly reward without a non-futa option). This page is, after all, first and foremost about the BE.

Which presents a problem, because I want to do it properly, not just wack a dick on and pretend like it's not a thing. Having a pathway on The Pill may be a way to do it, with a popup at the main screen allowing people to pick whether or not they want to experience it.

But before any of that, I have still got plenty of existing work to finish the current chapter of The Pill, and to start changing up the endings as per the 1500 patron community reward. So for the time being it's something that I'm going to put a pin in to address at a later date

I thank you all again for sharing your thoughts on the matter. I know The Grove will never be all things to all people but your responses help me plot out a path that will keep as many people happy (and horny) as possible.

tl;dr I can see there is considerable demand for futa, but if I  add it, it'll be optional and not until I've cleared the existing work first.

For quite some time now I've had folks ask me whether futa should be included in my standard bag of tricks, and in particular whether it should be included in 'The Pill'.

I personally have nothing against futa and enjoy it when it's done well, but wanted to know what the general consensus is about the subject.

Comments

Anonymous

Futa has some devoted followers. I'd appreciate it if you kept your futa content separate.

Rex429

If we did have separate versions of the pill that would be a good compromise

Anonymous

I know a number of games with futa make it optional with a question or toggleable option in the settings

Anonymous

WG before futa, please!

Anonymous

I don't mind futa growth as long as it isn't full time, BE is where it's at

Anonymous

Definitely would not like surprise futa, if it can be kept completely separate then that's more okay

Anonymous

I absolutely hate futa

Anonymous

Definitely NO futa. Don't waste BE production time.

Anonymous

So my view on this is kind of nuanced. Basically, I'm not a huge fan of *many* futa in a story, but if the POV character is a futa, I can enjoy it. It's a 'self-insert' role that I can get into, but it's not necessarily my favorite.

Anonymous

Wow, quite the range of opinions on this one. It seems like having at some point a single Futa pill option would be greatly appreciated by some and utterly avoided by others. I think that is okay for a niche fandom but I wonder how you feel about the polarizing split.

Lex

I'm on the keep it separate bandwagon, but holy crap this one is contentious

Amaz2k12

Futa's are absolutly not my thing. The only part where Futas are part of my work is while the Male to Female process is running...

Anonymous

Personally, I like futa more than GTS stuff, but I'm also fine if its separate or not included.

Anonymous

I hate futa, regardless of who it's attached to. I don't care if she's the cutest girl in the world, I will nope out of there ASAP.

Olaughalot

I feel like there's enough futa content out there and if you do futa content you'll be pressed for more and more futa content. Give them an inch they'll take a mile asking for it in almost everything you do.

Anonymous

It's great but I prefer a version that retains the vagina instead of replacing it. Futa can be super polarizing so as long as it's optional or there's a setting to turn it on/off I think most will be happy

CeeEeeTee

If it was one of the pill options to take that would be pretty incredible, especially if there were levels of it. However if it ends up being a choice between even bigger BE or adding futa, I think BE would be best. There are many other people who do futa so well but noone does BE as well as you so I guess only do it if it feel right.

Anonymous

I think it would be fun as an option in the change game but i dont always feel like it so it would be great if it was something you could turn on and off

Anonymous

I think a simple ues or no would have been better questions. Because as it stands you have 2 against it and 2 all for and 1 that doesnt care. Which is basically a yes in this context.

Rex429

I think the idea was to see if people did want to see it how often should he include or if it shouldn’t be included at all or just rarely

Anonymous

I dont know where you get your top tier futa growth content their bud because only 1 exists and thats yourbigjohnson.

Anonymous

I like futa on ocassion not all the time. It can be done really boringly.

Anonymous

i love futa as a whole and also love futa PE/ball growth stuff! i think it'd be amazing to include with the other transformations, and feel strongly in favor of futa + female over male + female, but that being said the main reasons i joined were for BE (and now height growth lol) so i understand if it doesn't get added and/or that other people may not be a fan

CeeEeeTee

I think if you go for it, maybe really go for it with size, make it a futa penis not just a girl with a dick, if that makes sense

Anonymous

I don't think it matches your content very well, but if you want to do it, YOLO.

Anonymous

Futa is awesome, especially coupled with other types of expansion. High quality, 3d, futa expansion content is hard to come by these days

Anonymous

I think the problem is one of tone and consistency with your other work... I'd almost suggest you start a separate Patreon for futa content if you were interested in producing it. Otherwise you might jeopardize the brand and audience you've established so far.

Anonymous

Ima be honest, Futa is an instant turn off for me. It’s not that I hate it, it just isn’t for me.

Anonymous

futa seem popular because those who want it just put out tons of money to have it created.

Anonymous

I like futa stuff, but that's not why I'm a patron. Maybe once in a while, but not "regular" because I can find other outlets for that and good BE is hard to find.

Anonymous

would love futa content!

Anonymous

It's not my cup of tea but The Pill has always allowed players to pick what they want anyway so it's probably fine if it were in the game. If you don't want to see it you could just avoid selecting it. (I just want more butt expansion because your good af at it).

Anonymous

For me if you're gonna have futa it's gotta be 2 girls, (one fucking the other) but if it's a girl and a guy, it doesn't do it for me. But even if you add it and people don't like it, you always make it optional to stay away from anything that you don't want in your game, so I don't think it would hurt to put it in either way.

Anonymous

I'm most likely gonna sound like a jerk, but i don't like futa in the mix here. In the mix that's here fetish wise it all works under the umbrella of BE. It's what brought me here in the first place. If things started going futa it would be a turn off for me and I might end up cancelling my sub too. I know it kind makes sense to to something like the pill but i really don't want it, and at the end of the day it's kind the creator's decision. There's a lot going on here with growth and fmg too, futa for me is too much.

Rex429

If people are honestly that worried about seeing futa stuff on this channel by accident or in general then just make it a separate tier so that way you can only see it if you choose to. No surprises and no feeling attacked for anybody

Anonymous

because most artists who do it, lack the high quality skills for it. Futa Growth on the other hand is even less so, only person doing so is YourBigJohnson and he is solo, only in his 20s and works in addition to his animations.

Anonymous

I would add it and make it optional. you could even make the same animation and just exempt the futa scene for non-futa lovers. everyone is happy this way.

Anonymous

for the most part i dislike futanari. Where the guys dick grows it ends up causing breast expansion i like, but not futa.

Anonymous

yea its not my thing. im not sure why it has to be on almost everything BE related I see these days... to each their own, but im fine with girl boy stuff...

SuuLucoa

I don't want to see anyone else's dick other than my own, ESPECIALLY if it's on a woman.