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Valued Member Q re Retire on Tesla to spend 250K/Yr (Patreon)

Published:
2023-05-29 17:26:41
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2023-05

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HOW MANY TSLA SHARES DO I NEED NOW TO CONSERVATIVELY HAVE AN APPRECIATION ENOUGH TO SELL SHARES PER YEAR TO GENERATE AN INCOME OF $250000/YEAR STARTING 2032 ASSUMING 20% APPRECIATION BEYOND 2032 PER YEAR AND INFLATION OF 8%?

Here are the numbers

Avg of all Models - Tesla Price in 2032 = $4803

250K / Yr = $20833 spend per month

Shares required 

Bull = 281 Shares

Bear = 858 Shares

Expected = 479 Shares

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Anonymous

I’ll just keep DCA’n. Been doing that for 2 years now. I may never get there.. but I set mini goals along the way. I’m still young and who knows when I’m in my 40’s the next Tesla/Apple may come along :)

Anonymous

Nice numbers James! 👏

Anonymous

Now this doesn’t take into account of taxes being take out! Is this calculated in a way that you withdraw as you need? OR LUMP SUM? A Roth IRA one can usually only add up to 6k a Year! I hope I’m not the only way Wondering

Anonymous

“New target established”

Anonymous

I find it better to not think of the value, if we just trade TSLA to accumulate more 400 shares seems like a small target. (Just how I see it.)

Anonymous

Thanks James. Your hard work is helping to shape our lives in different ways🙏🏿

Anonymous

Excellent question and response !

Anonymous

Is this in 2023 value or 2030?

Anonymous

Does the retire on Tesla price change or take into consideration the new 2 $25,000 vehicles with a production rate of 5 million vehicles a year as stated by Elon?

Anonymous

Is this a good price to be buying now or do you think there will be a dip?

Anonymous

I like 250K a year!!!thats actually perfect achievable target! I wish all of us here here there, at list!!! Mr James I wonder how many SOLANA we need to get 250K a year also very interesting 🙏Thansks Mr James and team as Always ♥️🫡🙏

Anonymous

That's too much for me..

InvestAnswers
>>109555617

MODEL YR PRICE PREDN SOL REQD IA LOW 2032 $644 5,744 EXPECTED 2032 $1,289 2,870 IA BULL 2032 $2,148 1,722 AVG of ALL 2032 $1,360 2,719

Anonymous

@investanswers - is there a video on this? i have X number of TSLA, but I don't need $250K/yr to live on. Also, I would like to start drawing before 2032. Let's say 2028. I've been doing Covered Calls and this month, I'll need to spend money to buy them back, but my shares have gone up so much, it won't be a problem. Would you think selling a cash cow like TSLA stock is the best way to realize monthly income? i'm thinking of switching to selling bull put spreads. just need to figure out the support level. Found the post about the video and model. Thanks James! (Still not seeing myself selling my TSLA nor my BTC, but it's nice to know their future value).

Anonymous
>>109553210

both are probably true. i would DCA some now and then when it dips, DCA more. My biggest regret was FOMO-ing into BTC in the $40K range. I wish I would have done like 10%, then wait, then another 10%.

Anonymous

If it applies, remember tax.

Anonymous

This is amazing so for about 500 TESLA I can live well even in the Bay Area? That’s awesome 🤩 and the 500 is doable. Thanks James! You’re the best, have you reach out to educate aunt Cathy? She needs help. You will do better. Maybe start a fund? I’ll join. 😉

Anonymous

An older woman asked me yesterday what the best investment was....she wanted to ape into NVDA on Tuesday and I was like NOOOOOOOOO, not after a huge PAMP you maniac. I said go slow into TSLA over the rest of this year. She was about to buy the top of NVDA immediately on Tuesday morning.....I was like at least wait for a cooldown lady, dayum, ask your money guy, he will say the same thing, lol.

Anonymous
>>109553210

Thank you. I can relate to buying BTC at too high a price, but in 2030 it won't make much difference--I hope.

Anonymous

The idea of all your retirement tied to one of the most volatile stocks is pure insanity. Everyone consider this, and know what you are getting into. There can and WILL be 2-3 year stretches where TLSA is 50-70% down, and this will be perfectly normal. Now what do you say to someone who is then 3 years to retirement and suddenly they are 60% down. Pure insanity

Anonymous
>>109565498

It is a volatile stock for sure. Buy low sell high perhaps. With the growth Tesla is experiencing and the vertical integration the company has it will most likely outperform for the next decade.

Anonymous

Hi James, I also wanted to ask, what is the biggest risk to Tesla? I always think about this as we all know, even Tesla can go zero as a single stock compared to index (I’m a recovering ❤️‍🩹 index investor) IMHO its Elon but that’s remediated, as he now has lieutenants that will work if he’s gone. What else? I can think about China exposure, motley fools analysis 🧐 and I agree with them that China may not survive the next 10 years as a manufacturing super power - they are getting older, and alienating foreign investors heck even apple is going to India to diversify their supply chain. My question if China implodes will that hurt our tesla? Thanks

Anonymous
>>109575064

Funny how he really never talks about this, but definitely should…..

Anonymous
>>109575064

While you raise valid points, your attitude seems confrontational, even rude. You might want to check yourself.

Anonymous
>>109565498

Its a theoretical model James, I personally have 80% of our retirement income from property. Then I have boring dividend stocks for my spending money, then I have X Tesla, X BTC and X Solana as a gamble that any one of them coming good would make the difference between economy and business class flights when we hit 2032. If they all tank my wife won't know any different (Risk Management) Hope that helps

Anonymous
>>109575064

Hi 👋 how are you doing too?!! Excuse my ignorance, but is that a starting balance of 2.3m?!!

Anonymous
>>109565498

I think it should be seen differently. In the model James puts 15% appreciation. I guess this is low for some years and high in others (where the stock is actually down). So 15% takes into account those down years. Overall the expectation is a median of 15% ... with the volatility included.

Anonymous
>>109575064

typical modern guy.. any other opinion or controversial opinion is 'rude' and 'confrontational'...

Anonymous
>>109565498

"Now what do you say to someone who is then 3 years to retirement and suddenly they are 60% down." Stop loss? Trailing stop loss?

Anonymous

Hello Sir James ….. when the new retire on BTC ETH SOL Tesla video ?? I believe you said it was coming out last Thursday ….. just looking forward to seeing it …. Can’t wait LFG 🥃 🏝️ Bora Bora

Anonymous
>>109565498

Scott - great point, and exactly the take-away most people cant see. Everyone will have a different opinion on how aggressive to be, but if it was my loved one I had to advise, I would not allow them to own any major chunk of retirement in TESLA unless they did not need to money for at least 5 more years. To each their own though.....

Anonymous

Hello friends, do we have a entry exit points on good stocks? Basically I have a full-time job and can't do options or trading at this point in time. As a result , I was looking to get some entry exits for top 5 stocks to spot buy/sell in a small retirement account. Any help is appreciated!

Anonymous

How many years is this model assuming the $250K per year pay out?

Anonymous

I need to go more hard on Tesla.. this shall be done ✅

Anonymous

I only need 350 more shares to go!!lol

Anonymous
>>109565498

Risk management or asymmetrical upside??????? 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃 (smiley pun intended)

Anonymous
>>109598751

If you ever run out of happy vibes, come visit me at east bora bora. The best place to snorkel. Not now, but in 2030 🤣

Anonymous

Hopefully our bag of 810 shares is enough for escape velocity: bag grows faster than the yearly amount we need to retire.

Anonymous

MOST Responsible way to 500 shares? Assuming one had $130k available and this was say 25% or less of one's investing/retirement $, what are the different paths to 500 shares? This may be too risky for some (too many eggs in 1 basket at 25% of retirement, but adjust your risk tolerance). If the goal is to have 500 shares and you have $130k, do you just purchase all today? Would be interesting to see James do some type of analysis on this - selling puts, LEAPS, Synthetic Long, Poor Mans covered call, etc...